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Psychs’ plans to Darwinize the younger set

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From the Guardian:

Child psychology studies have identified a natural human bias toward the theory of intelligent design, and pose a solution: teach evolution earlier

While psychologist Nathalia Gjersoe doesn’t come right out and say it, by “teach evolution,” she means teach what the U.S. Darwin-in-the-schools lobby would want:

Developmental psychologists have identified two cognitive biases in very young children that help to explain the popularity of intelligent design. The first is a belief that species are defined by an internal quality that cannot be changed (psychological essentialism). The second is that all things are designed for a purpose (promiscuous teleology). These biases interact with cultural beliefs such as religion but are just as prevalent in children raised in secular societies. Importantly, these beliefs become increasingly entrenched, making formal scientific instruction more and more difficult as children get older.More.

First, “species essentialism”? That’s just the kid’s way of classifying the world for preliminary purposes, and any competent psychologist should realize that. As Cats puts it, “A cat is not a dog.” Good place to begin.

And who are Gjersoe’s backers to be throwing stones? We have crabbed here at UD for years about the cavalcade of nonsense around speciation. It’s unclear what a species even is, never mind how it happens.

The idea’s popularity stems from the title of Darwin’s holy text, On the Origin of Species. “On the Origin of Whatever Is Going On Just Now” doesn’t sound quite so sciencey and might not get past even a typical science writer.

They prefer mystification themes like “Are dogs really wolves or are they a separate species”?

Who cares, guys? It’s all in your heads now. The concept needs to be totally revamped.

Of course, we are told by Darwin’s followers that we’re wrong to be concerned because defining species been a problem for three centuries.

Right. And if you can’t do anything about it, guys, maybe it’s time to let some other people try. Maybe the concept is not retrievable. Force feeding whatever the followers want to kiddies is not much of a solution.

Second, “evolution”does not mean that nothing is designed for a purpose. That is metaphysical naturalism, whose creation story is Darwinism. Teaching that amounts to using publicly funded schools to teach religion. Made-up child psychology that promotes it should be seen for what it is.

Actual evolution is about the mechanisms by which change happens. See, for example, Talk to the fossils: Let’s see what they say back

But that’s not popular because actual evidence has never really supported Darwin’s large claims (see Darwin’s finches, for example).

The people Gjersoe’s psychs really need to reach right now are probably the Royal Society. If not howled down by trolls, the Society is making a serious effort at rethinking evolution to take reality into account.

They need therapy.

See also: “Speciation” means what exactly? No one can define it but it is the basis of Darwinian evolution.

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7 Replies to “Psychs’ plans to Darwinize the younger set

  1. 1
    Fred Bloom says:

    Off-topic, but don’t know where else to ask this… What happened to the old arn forum archives?

  2. 2
    bornagain77 says:

    I guess we should also teach astrology, astral projection, alien abduction and crystal power to children at an earlier age since they are also skeptical of those pseudo-sciences.

    Is evolution pseudoscience?
    Excerpt:,,, Thus, of the ten characteristics of pseudoscience listed in the Skeptic’s Dictionary, evolution meets nine. Few other pseudosciences – astrology, astral projection, alien abduction, crystal power, or whatever — would meet so many.
    http://creation.com/is-evolution-pseudoscience

    Darwinian Evolution is a Pseudo-Science – Mathematics – video (2016)
    https://www.facebook.com/philip.cunningham.73/videos/vb.100000088262100/1132659110080354/?type=2&theater

    Actually, truth be told, instead of exposing children to the corrupting influence of the pseudo-science of evolution at an earlier age, parents should instead be putting their children in private schools. Private schools that expose their children to prayer at an earlier age.

    What Happened When the Praying Stopped? April 6, 2008
    Excerpt: How did the removal of voluntary prayer from the schools of the United States (in 1963) affect our nation as a whole?,,,
    Figure 1 shows how drastically the actual knowledge of high school students began to drop at an accelerating rate after 1962. Barton notes in his report that the upturn in SAT scores since 1981 is due to the increase in private Christian educational facilities which began to flourish at that time. Statistics have proven that students from private Christian schools showed higher academic achievement and higher test scores.

    Figure 2: This graph shows the increase in sexual activity in unmarried teen-age girls after the 1962 Supreme Court decision. It is evident from the figures provided that in the years previous to the removal of prayer the rates remained stable and relatively unchanged. In the post- prayer years the numbers immediately began to soar. The sudden increase on the graph appears as if a great restraining force had suddenly been removed.

    Figure 3: Unwed women 15-19 years of age showed a phenomenal increase in the rate of pregnancies after the School Prayer decision. Note that the figure jumps drastically after the Supreme Court’s Roe vs. Wade decision which made abortion legal in the U.S. The United States now has the highest incidence of teen-age motherhood in any Western country.

    Figure 4: For the 15-19 and 20-24 age group, the rates of youth suicide remained relatively unchanged during the years from 1946 to the School Prayer decision in 1962. But in the years since, suicides among the same group have increased 253 percent, or an average of 10.5 percent per year.

    Figure 5: Stability in the family has also been affected since the 1962 decision. Divorce, single parent families, couples living together but not married, and adultery are areas of family breakdown which have experienced radical growth in recent years. In the graph above, the increase in single parent families (households with only a mother and children) are detailed. Note the dotted line at the bottom, which shows the rate of growth prior to the 1962 decision.

    Figure 6: Crime, productivity, and national morality had been on a fairly stable level prior to the 1962 decision, but that is no longer the case. It is obvious that such a quantity of students praying for their nation had a very positive effect on the course that this nation had taken. The rate of violent crime, as shown above, has risen over 330 percent.
    http://www.forerunner.com/fore.....opped.html

    What Happened When the Voluntary Prayer Was Removed From Schools In 1962? David Barton – starting at 5:37 minute mark of this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LiudwVNTUWA#t=338
    and continuing through the first few minutes of this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zo5L4f57H4

    AMERICA: To Pray Or Not To Pray – David Barton – graphs corrected for population growth
    http://www.whatyouknowmightnotbeso.com/graphs.html

    If anyone doubts those sobering numbers cited by David Barton, here is the raw data on crime statistics for America from 1960 to 2013:

    United States Crime Rates 1960 – 2010 (Please note the skyrocketing crime rate from 1963, the year prayer was removed from school, through 1980, the year the steep climb in crime rate finally leveled off.) of note: The slight decline in the violent crime rate from the mid 90s until now is attributed in large part to tougher enforcement on minor crimes.
    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

    John 13:13
    “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am.”

    “I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily.,,, All my discoveries have been made in answer to prayer.”
    – Sir Isaac Newton – Perloff, Tornado in a Junkyard – p241

    Of supplemental note:

    The Fallacy Of The Doctrine Of Separation of Church and State – video
    http://empowerliberty.com/vide.....ty-results
    The preceding video analyzes the Thomas Jefferson letter to the Baptists in full starting at around the 26 minute mark of the lecture and shows how the ‘separation’ between church and state phrase in the letter has been twisted 180 degrees out of its original context and meaning.
    As well, at around the 30 minute mark Thomas Jefferson’s ‘church planting’ acts (with federal money no less, while he was president of the United states) are gone over.

    Also of note:

    Children are born believers in God, academic claims – 24 Nov 2008
    Excerpt: “Dr Justin Barrett, a senior researcher at the University of Oxford’s Centre for Anthropology and Mind, claims that young people have a predisposition to believe in a supreme being because they assume that everything in the world was created with a purpose.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....laims.html

    Design Thinking Is Hardwired in the Human Brain. How Come? – October 17, 2012
    Excerpt: “Even Professional Scientists Are Compelled to See Purpose in Nature, Psychologists Find.” The article describes a test by Boston University’s psychology department, in which researchers found that “despite years of scientific training, even professional chemists, geologists, and physicists from major universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Yale cannot escape a deep-seated belief that natural phenomena exist for a purpose” ,,,
    Most interesting, though, are the questions begged by this research. One is whether it is even possible to purge teleology from explanation.
    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2.....65381.html

    Verse:

    Matthew 19:14
    Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

  3. 3
    bornagain77 says:

    I guess we should also teach astrology, astral projection, alien abduction and crystal power to children at an earlier age since they are also skeptical of those pseudo-sciences.

    Is evolution pseudoscience?
    Excerpt:,,, Thus, of the ten characteristics of pseudoscience listed in the Skeptic’s Dictionary, evolution meets nine. Few other pseudosciences – astrology, astral projection, alien abduction, crystal power, or whatever — would meet so many.
    http://creation.com/is-evolution-pseudoscience

    Darwinian Evolution is a Pseudo-Science – Mathematics – video (2016)
    https://www.facebook.com/philip.cunningham.73/videos/vb.100000088262100/1132659110080354/?type=2&theater

    Actually, truth be told, instead of exposing children to the corrupting influence of the pseudo-science of evolution at an earlier age, parents should instead be putting their children in private schools. Private schools that expose their children to prayer at an earlier age.

    What Happened When the Praying Stopped? April 6, 2008
    Excerpt: How did the removal of voluntary prayer from the schools of the United States (in 1963) affect our nation as a whole?,,,
    Figure 1 shows how drastically the actual knowledge of high school students began to drop at an accelerating rate after 1962. Barton notes in his report that the upturn in SAT scores since 1981 is due to the increase in private Christian educational facilities which began to flourish at that time. Statistics have proven that students from private Christian schools showed higher academic achievement and higher test scores.

    Figure 2: This graph shows the increase in sexual activity in unmarried teen-age girls after the 1962 Supreme Court decision. It is evident from the figures provided that in the years previous to the removal of prayer the rates remained stable and relatively unchanged. In the post- prayer years the numbers immediately began to soar. The sudden increase on the graph appears as if a great restraining force had suddenly been removed.

    Figure 3: Unwed women 15-19 years of age showed a phenomenal increase in the rate of pregnancies after the School Prayer decision. Note that the figure jumps drastically after the Supreme Court’s Roe vs. Wade decision which made abortion legal in the U.S. The United States now has the highest incidence of teen-age motherhood in any Western country.

    Figure 4: For the 15-19 and 20-24 age group, the rates of youth suicide remained relatively unchanged during the years from 1946 to the School Prayer decision in 1962. But in the years since, suicides among the same group have increased 253 percent, or an average of 10.5 percent per year.

    Figure 5: Stability in the family has also been affected since the 1962 decision. Divorce, single parent families, couples living together but not married, and adultery are areas of family breakdown which have experienced radical growth in recent years. In the graph above, the increase in single parent families (households with only a mother and children) are detailed. Note the dotted line at the bottom, which shows the rate of growth prior to the 1962 decision.

    Figure 6: Crime, productivity, and national morality had been on a fairly stable level prior to the 1962 decision, but that is no longer the case. It is obvious that such a quantity of students praying for their nation had a very positive effect on the course that this nation had taken. The rate of violent crime, as shown above, has risen over 330 percent.
    http://www.forerunner.com/fore.....opped.html

    What Happened When the Voluntary Prayer Was Removed From Schools In 1962? David Barton – starting at 5:37 minute mark of this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LiudwVNTUWA#t=338
    and continuing through the first few minutes of this video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zo5L4f57H4

    AMERICA: To Pray Or Not To Pray – David Barton – graphs corrected for population growth
    http://www.whatyouknowmightnotbeso.com/graphs.html

    If anyone doubts those sobering numbers cited by David Barton, here is the raw data on crime statistics for America from 1960 to 2013:

    United States Crime Rates 1960 – 2010 (Please note the skyrocketing crime rate from 1963, the year prayer was removed from school, through 1980, the year the steep climb in crime rate finally leveled off.) of note: The slight decline in the violent crime rate from the mid 90s until now is attributed in large part to tougher enforcement on minor crimes.
    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

    Verse and Quotes

    John 13:13
    “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am.”

    “I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily.,,, All my discoveries have been made in answer to prayer.”
    – Sir Isaac Newton – Perloff, Tornado in a Junkyard – p241

  4. 4
    bornagain77 says:

    Do private schools educate children better than public schools?
    Excerpt: The results of education testing seems to show mixed results on the question of whether private schools educate children better. The results of the 2000 National Assessment of Educational Progress tests showed that private school students achieved higher scores at all three grade levels tested. However, a 2007 Center on Education Policy study found that once socioeconomic factors are corrected when assessing test results, private school students didn’t perform any better than public school students. Basically, this study says that students who did well on the standardized tests would have done well regardless of whether they attended a private or public school. However, moving past the dueling tests and studies, what’s clear is that private school students have better SAT scores, and better college admission and graduation rates, regardless of socioeconomic level.
    http://curiosity.discovery.com.....ic-schools

    The History of Christian Education in America
    Excerpt: The first colleges in America were founded by Christians and approximately 106 out of the first 108 colleges were Christian colleges. In fact, Harvard University, which is considered today as one of the leading universities in America and the world was founded by Christians. One of the original precepts of the then Harvard College stated that students should be instructed in knowing God and that Christ is the only foundation of all “sound knowledge and learning.”
    http://www.ehow.com/about_6544.....erica.html

    Of supplemental note:

    The Fallacy Of The Doctrine Of Separation of Church and State – video
    http://empowerliberty.com/vide.....ty-results
    The preceding video analyzes the Thomas Jefferson letter to the Baptists in full starting at around the 26 minute mark of the lecture and shows how the ‘separation’ between church and state phrase in the letter has been twisted 180 degrees out of its original context and meaning.
    As well, at around the 30 minute mark Thomas Jefferson’s ‘church planting’ acts (with federal money no less, while he was president of the United states) are gone over.

    Also of note:

    Children are born believers in God, academic claims – 24 Nov 2008
    Excerpt: “Dr Justin Barrett, a senior researcher at the University of Oxford’s Centre for Anthropology and Mind, claims that young people have a predisposition to believe in a supreme being because they assume that everything in the world was created with a purpose.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....laims.html

    Design Thinking Is Hardwired in the Human Brain. How Come? – October 17, 2012
    Excerpt: “Even Professional Scientists Are Compelled to See Purpose in Nature, Psychologists Find.” The article describes a test by Boston University’s psychology department, in which researchers found that “despite years of scientific training, even professional chemists, geologists, and physicists from major universities such as Harvard, MIT, and Yale cannot escape a deep-seated belief that natural phenomena exist for a purpose” ,,,
    Most interesting, though, are the questions begged by this research. One is whether it is even possible to purge teleology from explanation.
    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2.....65381.html

    Verse:

    Matthew 19:14
    Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.”

  5. 5
    goodusername says:

    Right. And if you can’t do anything about it, guys, maybe it’s time to let some other people try.

    Go for it. No one is stopping you.

    The idea’s popularity stems from the title of Darwin’s holy text, On the Origin of Species.

    Wait, am I reading that right? The popularity of the concept of species stems from a book by Darwin? I shouldn’t be too surprised considering all the stuff I see Darwin strangely getting credit for around here, but, wow, that’s a first.

  6. 6
    ppolish says:

    “I believe that imagination is stronger than knowledge. That myth is more potent than history. That dreams are more powerful than facts. That hope always triumphs over experience. That laughter is the only cure for grief. And I believe that love is stronger than death.”
    Robert Fulghum, All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten

    Love is stronger than death. Amen to that! And “Evolution” does not end with death. That would be a bit stupid sorry. Don’t be stupid.

    Kids enter this world spiritual. Don’t believe in oops for crying out loud waaa. Belief in oops culls the herd come eternity. Shame really – it’s a really big House. Room for everyone.

  7. 7
    Robert Byers says:

    leave our kids alone. Any move to indoctrinate is breaking contract between a peoples trust in thier education system to ONLY teach stuff. not bring profound conclusions. thats old time commieism.
    anyways.
    The kids are right.
    Bodies do not change easily. There must be a big thing happen. not small steps to bring macro results. kids are smart until they are TOLD authority has decided thier first instinct is wrong.

    kids are right. There is a purpose. complexity demands purpose in nature. its obvious unless someone intimidates one out of it.

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