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Atheism and the Evolution Requirement

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One of the major difficulties I have as someone with one foot planted in the theistic evolution camp is discussing the general concept of evolution or Darwinism.

A large part of the problem is with the simple definition of the words – where one person takes Darwinism to mean “a process totally unguided and unforeseen by God in anyway”, another means “a process of variation and selection, where both variation and selected may be or (with some TEs) in fact were ultimately or proximately guided and foreseen by God”, still another means “a process of variation and selection, where the ultimate causes of variation and selection are not considered because that’s outside of science” to otherwise, etc. Navigating this is a headache, and one that constantly reappears.

But another conceptual problem is this: The claim that atheism and evolution are utterly intertwined. Now, this comes in a few forms. Sometimes the claim is that if evolution is true – let’s say, if it’s true that the first man had biological precursors – then theism must be false. More popular is the claim that theism and evolution can both be true, but theism can also withstand the falsity of evolution. Atheism, on the other hand, has a dire link to evolution: If atheism is true, then evolution must be true.

This latter view seems popular, both in and out of the ID tent. And it’s a view I deeply disagree with. My reasons follow below the cut.

Before I start in on this, I want to stress that there’s a related, more obvious claim that I’m not denying: That evolution, particularly Darwinism, is used to support atheism, and used to attack certain particular religious claims (that humanity and all life was created fully formed is the obvious example.) Likewise, I’m not denying that atheists make appeals to evolution to support their atheism, or that some would even agree that if atheism is true then evolution must be true. I think they’re as wrong as the theists who make this claim.

What I deny is this: That the assumed truth of atheism makes evolution logically necessary. All you need is a single example of a logically possible world where both atheism is true and evolution is false, and the logical necessity disappears. Here’s a sample of some possibilities.

* Humanity and all living things have been reproducing, producing only like kinds, unto eternity.
* The existence of at least humanity and possibly all other life is simply a brute fact: At some point in the finite or infinite past, humanity and/or life showed up without cause or explanation. They just are.
* Humanity and/or other life popped into existence in a Boltzmann Brain style scenario – one day they just appeared, sans precursors, by utter fortuity.
* Humanity and/or other life was directly caused to exist by a combination of laws and states-of-affairs that are/were themselves brute and inexplicable, yet which for no reason made the sudden appearance of these organisms inevitable.

This list could be expanded in numerous ways: Make the laws of nature subject to inexplicable change if you want. Increase the length of the brute fact chain. Fill the natural world with suspiciously convenient, detailed, life- or human-spawning processes that create directly rather than rely on selection and variation. All this and more are logically compatible with the truth of atheism. And it only takes one compatibility to show that no, evolution and atheism aren’t quite linked that way.

Now, as I said previously, this doesn’t mean that atheists don’t regularly present evolution as some kind of testament to the truth of atheism – but that’s deeply problematic. First, insofar as it relies on the claim that evolution must be true on atheism, it’s open to the same counter-examples I just provided. Second, I’d argue that the rhetorical strengths atheists are often granted by evolution typically derive most of their strength from their opposition to very narrow, particular religious claims – if a theist adheres to an account of origins such that organisms were made whole and without precursors, then an evolutionary account of such organisms is a challenge. But if a theist believes that God could have or did use evolutionary processes in creation, the bulk of the force of the evolutionary argument – in and of itself – dissipates. Insofar as this is true, evolution doesn’t function as an evidence for atheism as much as evidence against some particular claim of one religious view – but theism itself, and religion broadly, does not require the falsity of evolution anyway.

But one problem I have with this misunderstanding is this: It gives credit where credit simply isn’t due.

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Ilion, You haven’t solved the “problem” you set yourself — all you’ve done is demonstrate that it’s not logically solvable in a manner you will accept. I'm not sure what you're saying here. I pointed out the claim that atheism logically requires the truth of evolution, fails. Of course, Darwinism is profoundly irrational — as are most of the silly “possible worlds” you posited (and so one muct use the quote marks around “rational”). I didn't say the other worlds were 'rational', much less that atheism itself is rational - I'm after a far more modest claim than that.nullasalus
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"Navigating this is a headache, and one that constantly reappears." I'll add my view: information was put into the system at the start, and at various points in history for the "large" things, like body plans, and random variation and environment selection were utilized to fill the niches.mike1962
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nullasalus, You haven't solved the "problem" you set yourself -- all you've done is demonstrate that it's not logically solvable in a manner you will accept. Or, to put it another way, you're demonstrated the truth of that to which you wich to object and reject. "Atheism, on the other hand, has a dire link to evolution: If atheism is true, then evolution Darwinism must be true." This is the only "rational" thing to say about biological reality in a contingent world. Of course, Darwinism is profoundly irrational -- as are most of the silly "possible worlds" you posited (and so one muct use the quote marks around "rational").Ilion
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BA77, This is why I try to always put ‘neo’ in front of Darwinism, so as to be very careful to distinguish that it is the atheistic form of Darwinism I’m looking at,, I'm glad you try to distinguish. I think one point of confusion there could be that 'neo-Darwinism' is, if I recall, typically used to single out the modern synthesis / Mendel-inclusive version of 'Darwinism'. But as I said, every conversation seems to require a new explanation of terms.nullasalus
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This is why I try to always put 'neo' in front of Darwinism, so as to be very careful to distinguish that it is the atheistic form of Darwinism I'm looking at,, i.e. Myers, Dawkins, Harris, etc.. etc.. etc..,,, But of course, on the other hand, I guess I can see why atheists may find many of my ID arguments to be overtly Theistic in character,,,, (God makes) All Things New - Steven Curtis Chapman - music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Q3NrB_eHM ,,, though ID itself is not based on a Theistic Inference.bornagain77
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the glory days of atheism are long gone. gone are the days of the eternal universe and the jello cell glob. now time has a beginning and the cell is digital code. All they have left is neo-darwinsim. what is left of the glory days when atheism was the cool high school quarterback is the residual media mess. Instead, atheism is now the shirtless fan watching the game in the stands covered in paint making a lot of noise.junkdnaforlife
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And it is the creationists who repeatedly assert that atheism and evolution are entwined. I've seen it happen from both angles. My criticism is leveled at both.nullasalus
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But another conceptual problem is this: The claim that atheism and evolution are utterly intertwined.
I don't see that claim in ordinary life. My friends and colleagues seem to keep their views on religion separate from their views on evolution. As far as I know, Fred Hoyle was an atheist and he certainly criticized Darwinism. There is one place, however, where I do see that intertwining. It is an evolution/creation Internet debate forum. And it is the creationists who repeatedly assert that atheism and evolution are entwined.Neil Rickert
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