Andrews University – Uncommon Descent

Chemistry Intelligent Design Origin Of Life

James Tour: Open access Zoom seminar September 3

Topic: Scientists are Clueless about Origin of Life

Silver Asiatic Relatd In the early 1970s I was on the edge of a college campus in a major U.S. city. I... – The Woke without their makeup …
relatd FH at 24, Wow. Evolution just evolved it before it evolved everything else? Or maybe not? If I put all... – What is Life?
Upright BiPed . I am under the impression you have a hypothesis This has always been your tell, Fred. You’re like the... – At Evolution News: Günter Bechly repudiates...
Silver Asiatic Please tell me the salient, empirically distinguishable difference between a computer learning to recognize an apartment building and a computer... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
Lieutenant Commander Data the learning software Except don't exist such a thing like learning software. To add to a database more words/pictures /patterns... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
JVL Asauber: Possibly, but I can’t imagine what the specific issue would be. You have something in mind? Not from your... – What is Life?
asauber "Would some of your ‘mindspace’ be considering theological issues if you did consider the issue?" JVL, Possibly, but I can't... – What is Life?
Silver Asiatic DD Please tell me the salient, empirically distinguishable difference between a computer learning to recognize an apartment building and a... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
Silver Asiatic Andrew There would be a problem with convincing a human person that a table is suddenly now a chair. That’s... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
asauber "We could program the computer to accept false statements and violate logic. But we can’t consistently do that with humans,... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
dogdoc SA, We could program the computer to accept false statements and violate logic. Again, I've been talking about learning systems... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
dogdoc SA, When we say the “computer has learned” – the verb ‘to learn’ is different for a computer than for... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
Silver Asiatic I think it's more than the computer calling chairs tables. We could program the computer to accept false statements and... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
Silver Asiatic LCD Yep, and a scarecrow “learn” to scare crows. It's a good comparison because we imagine that a computer is... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
dogdoc Andrew@50, You are correct that if you labelled the chairs as "tables" the computer would label a new chair as... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
Silver Asiatic When we say the "computer has learned" - the verb 'to learn' is different for a computer than for a... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
Silver Asiatic DD To me, the fact that we can have a description in our heads of what a chair is, even... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
asauber "Please tell me why you think it is erroneous to say that this computer system has learned to recognize chairs."... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...
JVL Asauber: Not my field of study, so I’m completely unversed in the subject. While a potentially interesting question, I don’t... – What is Life?
asauber "Would you like to weigh in on the question of whether or not viruses are alive?" JVL, Not my field... – What is Life?
dogdoc LCD@48, You objected to SA writing that computers can learn to recognize chairs. The fact is, I can take open... – Michael Egnor: Is consciousness the sort...