And then Bill Gates said, You’re fired!

_{Denyse O'Leary

May 9, 2016

Information, News, Origin Of Life}

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A friend sends this gem from the literature;, it sounds totally oblivious of the information requirement for life:

It is now generally accepted that the emergence of increasingly complex eukaryotic life forms was accompanied by a corresponding increase in genome complexity, entailing both an expansion in gene number and more elaborate gene regulation.(22–24) Only DNA recombination in the form of gene or segmental duplications, exon shuffling, insertions, deletions, and chromosomal rearrangements can adequately account for this massive increase in gene number and the complexity of their regulation.(22–24). – Oliver, Keith R. & Wayne K. Greene (2009) Transposable elements: powerful facilitators of evolution BioEssays 31:703–714.

Kirk Durston, picking on the theme, offers a translation from the Darwinspeak:

The authors are blowing smoke here so far as thinking they are offering a scientific explanation. To illustrate, I’ve translated the paragraph to explain how the full range of personal computers has arisen. Here goes …

“It is now generally accepted that the emergence of increasingly complex personal computers was accompanied by a corresponding increase in the complexity of information required to build them, entailing both an expansion in the amount of memory required to store it all, and more elaborate instructions as to the assembly procedure. Only by recombining the information on the SSD by way of randomly duplicating small sections of information here and there, and shuffling it around and saving it in random spots here and there on an SSD can adequately account for this massive increase in the number of components needed to assemble personal computers and the complexity of how the parts are produced and assembled.”

Brilliant! Now we know how it all happened. Crystal clear! (Face-palm)

Question 1: If one of your students handed in an essay, the topic of which was to explain where full range of personal computers came from, what grade would you give the student for this brilliant explanation?

Question 2: If, in the early days of personal computers, a job applicant had presented this plan to Steve Jobs or Bill Gates, how much longer would the interview have lasted?

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Dionisio: You are always forgiven! :) gpuccio

gpuccio: Disclaimer: Please, forgive me if some of the referenced papers are unrelated to the topic you're interested in. It looks as though they all somehow deal with the eukaryogenesis topic. BTW, I agree that a serious OP on the eukaryogenesis topic should be highly welcome these days. Dionisio

gpuccio Other references to potential candidates for interesting papers that may touch the eukaryogenesis topic at least slightly or indirectly: http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/7/8/2289.full http://www.nature.com/articles/srep22496 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0151092 http://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12864-015-1588-z http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21541264.2015.1128518 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.4161/21541264.2014.967599 Dionisio

gpuccio I'm throwing in paper references that may not be exactly what you're looking for: http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/370/1678/20140318 http://www.cell.com/trends/microbiology/fulltext/S0966-842X(15)00279-6 Dionisio

gpuccio, Perhaps these papers touch the topic too, at least indirectly? http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0146796 http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1005912 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0146352 Dionisio

gpuccio Here are other papers that may refer to eukaryogenesis-related issues too: http://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-015-0400-7 http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fmicb.2015.01144/full http://mmbr.asm.org/content/78/3/487. http://www.pnas.org/content/112/34/10810.full http://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1004748 Dionisio

Actually, in terms of evolution-speak, I didn't find the original summary all that bad - I would have re-written it thusly: It is now generally accepted that the emergence of increasingly complex [computer systems] was accompanied by a corresponding increase in [computer part] complexity, entailing both an expansion in [component] number and more elaborate [component design and manufacture].(22–24) Only [system redesign] in the form of [component] or [component system] duplications, [chip] shuffling, [chip] insertions, [chip] deletions, and [component] rearrangements can adequately account for this massive increase in [component] number and the complexity of their [design, connectivity, and production]. The "insight" of the paragraph being (drumroll): merely modifying existing [chips and components] individually in their current positions isn't sufficient (the RM of RMNS) - you also have to duplicate, delete, shuffle, steal from other systems, reposition, etc. What is amazing about this is not just that such hand-waving without explanation is considered insightful, but also that it has taken evolutionists so long to realize how extreme the changes required are to get from one type of lifeform to another, and that simple RM of DNA code-in-place isn't nearly sufficient. drc466

Dionisio and Mung: Thank you for the references. I will read them carefully. Yes, eukaryogenesis is a fascinating subject. After OOL, probably the greatest information jump in all natural history. An OP about that would be great. We will see... :) gpuccio

zach @4: lol this is old, but, : https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&hl=en&authuser=0&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=764&q=what+are+we+browsers&oq=what+are+we+browsers&gs_l=img.3...6323.11900.0.13455.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.0.0.2yqKSl_dYS4#imgrc=YkAWzwIuXRwqvM%3A es58

gpuccio is this related to what you're interested in? http://www.pnas.org/content/112/33/10278.full Dionisio

gpuccio The paper referenced in this OP is also cited by this paper: Macas J, Novák P, Pellicer J, ?ížková J, Koblížková A, Neumann P, et al. (2015) In Depth Characterization of Repetitive DNA in 23 Plant Genomes Reveals Sources of Genome Size Variation in the Legume Tribe Fabeae. PLoS ONE 10(11): e0143424. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0143424 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0143424 This seems like a related paper: http://www.pnas.org/content/112/33/10278.full.pdf Dionisio

Information Processing Differences Between Archaea and Eukarya—Implications for Homologs and the Myth of Eukaryogenesis. - Tan, C. and J. Tomkins. 2015. https://answersingenesis.org/biology/microbiology/information-processing-differences-between-archaea-and-eukarya/ Information Processing Differences Between Bacteria and Eukarya—Implications for the Myth of Eukaryogenesis. - Tan, C. and J. Tomkins. 2015. https://answersingenesis.org/biology/microbiology/information-processing-differences-between-bacteria-and-eukarya bornagain77

gpuccio sorry, I forgot to include the link to the paper. however, it does not seem related to the subject you're interested in: http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/8/3/649.full I just wanted to comment that this newer paper that references the one in this OP doesn't seem to support the grand claims made in (or implied by) this OP paper. Dionisio

gpuccio: Is it about eukaryogenesis? It’s a subject I am very interested in! Check this out: Origin And Evolution Of Eukaryotes Perhaps one day you will do an OP on Eukaryotes and we can discuss. :) Mung

Only by recombining the information on the SSD by way of randomly duplicating small sections of information here and there, and shuffling it around and saving it in random spots here and there on an SSD can adequately account for this massive increase in the number of components needed to assemble personal computers and the complexity of how the parts are produced and assembled.
Well, that does explain a lot about Microsoft Windows. Zachriel

Dionisio: Could you please provide the reference for the 2016 paper? Is it about eukaryogenesis? It's a subject I am very interested in! :) gpuccio

The paper referenced in this OP is kind of old in research terms and it's just one of the gazillion papers with click-bait titles that always miss to answer the fundamental question in serious science: where's the beef? :) A much newer (2016) paper, which cites the above mentioned 2009 paper, deals with bunch of interesting things, but none that could support the idea presented in the 2009 paper. What else is new? Poor things. Dionisio

More Darwinist buffoonery. They are an entertaining bunch, I'll give them that much. Poor lost souls. Truth Will Set You Free

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