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Anti-theists are Angry, Narcissistic, Un-agreeable, Anti-social Dogmatists


I didn’t say that, but a comprehensive research study by Christopher Silver, a member of the Chatanooga Freethought association. Silver tried to show not all non-believers fit the negative stereotype of “angry, narcissistic, un-agreeable, anti-social dogmatists”, but in the process highlighted the very group that exactly fits that stereotype, namely the anti-theist (or loosely the New Atheist or GNU Atheist). The study can be found here:

A study came out that classified non-believers into six groups:

Intellectual Atheist/Agnostic (IAA)
Activist (AAA)
Seeker-Agnostic (SA)
Ritual Atheist/Agnostic (RAA)

To understand the typology and results, one has to go here:

But here is the Anti-Theist:


The fourth typology, and one of the more assertive in their view, we termed the Anti-Theist. While the Anti-Theists may be considered atheist or in some cases labeled as “new atheists,” the Anti-Theist is diametrically opposed to religious ideology. As such, the assertive Anti-Theist both proactively and aggressively asserts their views towards others when appropriate, seeking to educate the theists in the passé nature of belief and theology. In other words, antitheists view religion as ignorance and see any individual or institution associated with it as backward and socially detrimental. The Anti-Theist has a clear and – in their view, superior – understanding of the limitations and danger of religions. They view the logical fallacies of religion as an outdated worldview that is not only detrimental to social cohesion and peace, but also to technological advancement and civilized evolution as a whole. They are compelled to share their view and want to educate others into their ideological position and attempt to do so when and where the opportunity arises. Some Anti-Theist individuals feel compelled to work against the institution of religion in its various forms including social, political, and ideological, while others may assert their view with religious persons on an individual basis. The Anti-Theist believes that the obvious fallacies in religion and belief should be aggressively addressed in some form or another. Based on personalities, some Anti-Theists may be more assertive than others; but outsiders and friends know very clearly where they stand in relation to an Anti-theist. Their worldview is typically not a mystery.

“Happy Atheist” PZ Myers would likely be classified as an anti-Theist, probably Richard Dawkins too.

The study listed who ranked highest or lowest in certain psychological tests. Anti-theists ranked:

Highest in Multidimensional Anger Inventory
Highest in Narcissism
Highest in Dogmatism

Lowest in Positive Relationships with Others
Lowest in Agreeableness

To that end, some quotes and photos.

It’s time to abort the Catholic Church Evil, F–kbrained a–holes,

Bloody butchers and pious toads who mask their medieval ignorance with a pretense of charity and care; it’s long past time to end the illusion and recognize the barbarism of the church. Shut ‘em down.

PZ Myers

What does PZ mean by barbaric? Did he have this lady in mind?

Instead, with feigned modesty, PZ showed this photo of himself at his website:

Please don’t try to tell me that you object to the tone of our complaints. Our only problem is that we aren’t martial enough, or vigorous enough, or loud enough, or angry enough. The only appropriate responses should involve some form of righteous fury, much butt-kicking, and the public firing and humiliation of some teachers, many schoolboard members

PZ Myers

1. Personally, even though I am a Christian, the Seeker-Agnostic seemed to describe me about 80% correctly! 🙂

Seeker-Agnostic (SA)

The third typological characteristic is the Seeker-Agnostic…..
Seeker-Agnostics recognize the limitation of human knowledge and experience. They actively search for and respond to knowledge and evidence, either supporting or disconfirming truth claims. They also understand, or at least recognize, the qualitative complexities of experiences in the formation of personal meaning. Seeker- Agnostics do not hold a firm ideological position but always search for the scientifically wondrous, and experientially profound confirmation of life’s meaning. They may be intrinsically motivated to explore and seek understanding in the world around them. The diversity of others is accepted for the SA and co-existence with the “others” is not only possible, but also welcomed. Their worldly outlook may be mediated by science; however, they recognize current scientific limitations and embrace scientific uncertainty. They are comfortable with this uncertainty and even enjoy discussing it….it is possible they may continue to identity as a religious or spiritual individual. However, taking those exceptions into account, the majority of Seeker-Agnostics should in no way be considered “confused.” For the Seeker-Agnostic, uncertainty is embraced.

2. I would bet an anti-theist was probably behind this line of baby clothing:

The shirt says, “HAPPY ATHEIST I believe in life before death”.

“If anyone causes one of these little ones–those who believe in me–to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea.” Mark 9:42

3. photo credits


4. HT Mike Gene

It's mainly the theophobes I struggle with. humbled
For the record I respect atheists and agnostics, I hang out with them, and to some extent have identified with them, especially the agnostics. As I've said, the writings of certain atheists have motivated me to remain a Christian, most notably Bertrand Russell. Nathaniel Branden is also one of my favorite atheist philosophers and psychologists. My favorite atheist role model -- TJ Rodgers! :-) I actually looked favorably on him when he took issue with a Catholic Nun :shock: http://www.cypress.com/?rID=34986 Where I run into problems is the anti-theists. From what I can gather, even anti-theists don't get along well with other non-believers, and of late, the anti-theists have really been more vitriolic to the non-believing community than the believing community. PZ Myers for a while was the Darwinist champion against ID, but now he hardly writes on the topic, and looks like he's having a bit of a meltdown. I don't mind pointing some this out because I think he's been one of the most mean spirited people on the net. My criticism of PZ is nothing like what he's getting from his atheist peers. FWIW, the joke in ID circles is PZ is on the Discovery Institute payroll because he makes his pro-evolution community look really bad. To extent that can be said of the anti-theist community on the whole. The other non-believing typologies, I get along well with. scordova
Axel, you might want to check out that research that recently came out showing that non-religious people are smarter than religious people. 5for
'ID' scientists, rather than 'Christian scientists', adds Einstein to our 'hand', though he had been technically Lutheran for professional reasons. Axel
When I ascribed 'desperately inferior minds' to atheists, I'm primarily speaking generically, on the comparative historical records of Christian and atheist scientists. And this, despite the exponential growth of scientific knowledge, methodologies and equipment, subsequent upon the great leap forward effected by the Intelligent Design paradigm-changers of the last century. Axel
AVS: The only way to know you are worshiping the right God is for that God to reveal Himself to you. You obviously see the problem inherent in a surety that has its origins in humans. How is this any less problematic for the atheist? Do you not see that a surety that has its origins in an omniscient and omnipotent God need not suffer the same difficulties? Phinehas
'A bit like some theists in fact.' Turning the other cheek by theists would be much more agreeable, wouldn't it, Mark? You should hear the disaffected, adolescent atheists on Christian forums mercilessly mocking (insofar as that's possible by desperately inferior minds) their endlessly indulgent Christian interlocutors. Then when you 'lower the boom' on them, they can't go running to the mods quickly enough. It's just not fair when the person who's supposed to always turn the other cheek, turns satirical, instead. Oh, the injustice of those Christian bullies! Shades of Ms Stotts' traumatic Creationist upbringing. Axel
Love is blind. Like I said, it's the god anti-theists hate the most. Hmmm, who could that be? RexTugwell
The changing faces of belief by Patrick Mower, in the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2010/sep/17/pope-benedict-xvi Axel
So you worship whichever god has the blindest followers? Which god is that today? AVS
AVS, it's the god that the anti-theists hate the most. How do we know our god is the true one? That's a weighty question. As for myself, it's the god whose faithful are killed and/or persecuted most often. Those same faithful that are most willing to be killed and/or persecuted for love of Him. That can't be said for Shiva or Odin. RexTugwell
Remind us all, which god do you worship and how do you know you're not worshiping the wrong one? There's a bunch of other people on this planet who are just as sure as you that the god they worship is the right one. AVS
I recall, I was all that until I became a theist. Angry, angry angry, God was an a-hole that did not deserve my respect. Weird how the wheel turns huh..... And today I see His majesty and glory in everything. But what stands out most is this; God is love. Andre
#5 OldArmy94
The anger and hostility of a PZ Myers is mystifying to me. WHY does he care so much?
It could be something to do with being fed up with being told you are pyschopathic, morally deficient, stupid or intellectually dishonest - just some of the accusations which have been aimed at atheists recently on UD. Mark Frank
That could be a useful typology, I guess. I would identify myself as an IAA (in some respects) and as a non-theist (in other respects). I stopped calling myself an atheist because I didn't want to be identified with the anti-theists. Kantian Naturalist
The anger and hostility of a PZ Myers is mystifying to me. WHY does he care so much? I tend to agree with Rex; their reaction is a manifestation of hatred toward the God they deny. OldArmy94
Anti-theists as described above are essentially religious fundamentalists. lpadron
Once again, the research is greeted by the theist with a yawn and a "Tell me something I don't know". Kinda like junk DNA. I don't think anti-theists (ATs) are necessarily atheists. I think most ATs believe there is a God; they just hate him. After all, isn't Satan an anti-theist? Consider Dr. Paul Vitz's "defective father hypothesis" in his book Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism The reasons given for rejecting God are many. For the anti-theist, IMHO the reasons are less intellectual and more personal. There could be some real hurt and suffering in their past and for that they deserve our sympathy. RexTugwell
A bit like some theists in fact.
Hate to admit it, but yes indeed. scordova
A bit like some theists in fact. Mark Frank

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