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The key to understanding the origin and fate of the universe may be a more complete understanding of the vacuum.

Charlie Wood writes:

As modern physicists have grappled with more sophisticated candidates for the ultimate theory of nature, they have encountered a growing multitude of types of nothing. Each has its own behavior, as if it’s a different phase of a substance. Increasingly, it seems that the key to understanding the origin and fate of the universe may be a careful accounting of these proliferating varieties of absence.

“We’re learning there’s a lot more to learn about nothing than we thought,” said Isabel Garcia Garcia, a particle physicist at the Kavli Institute for Theoretical Physics in California. “How much more are we missing?”

So far, such studies have led to a dramatic conclusion: Our universe may sit on a platform of shoddy construction, a “metastable” vacuum that is doomed — in the distant future — to transform into another sort of nothing, destroying everything in the process.

Merrill Sherman/Quanta Magazine

Quantum Nothingness

Nothing started to seem like something in the 20th century, as physicists came to view reality as a collection of fields: objects that fill space with a value at each point (the electric field, for instance, tells you how much force an electron will feel in different places). In classical physics, a field’s value can be zero everywhere so that it has no influence and contains no energy. “Classically, the vacuum is boring,” said Daniel Harlow, a theoretical physicist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. “Nothing is happening.”

But physicists learned that the universe’s fields are quantum, not classical, which means they are inherently uncertain. You’ll never catch a quantum field with exactly zero energy. Harlow likens a quantum field to an array of pendulums — one at each point in space — whose angles represent the field’s values. Each pendulum hangs nearly straight down but jitters back and forth.

Left alone, a quantum field will stay in its minimum-energy configuration, known as its “true vacuum” or “ground state.” (Elementary particles are ripples in these fields.) “When we talk about the vacuum of a system, we have in mind in some loose way the preferred state of the system,” said Garcia Garcia.

Most of the quantum fields that fill our universe have one, and only one, preferred state, in which they’ll remain for eternity. Most, but not all.

True and False Vacuums

 In the 1970s, physicists came to appreciate the significance of a different class of quantum fields whose values prefer not to be zero, even on average. Such a “scalar field” is like a collection of pendulums all hovering at, say, a 10-degree angle. This configuration can be the ground state: The pendulums prefer that angle and are stable.

In 2012, experimentalists at the Large Hadron Collider proved that a scalar field known as the Higgs field permeates the universe. At first, in the hot, early universe, its pendulums pointed down. But as the cosmos cooled, the Higgs field changed state, much as water can freeze into ice, and its pendulums all rose to the same angle. (This nonzero Higgs value is what gives many elementary particles the property known as mass.)

With scalar fields around, the stability of the vacuum is not necessarily absolute. A field’s pendulums might have multiple semi-stable angles and a proclivity for switching from one configuration to another. Theorists aren’t certain whether the Higgs field, for instance, has found its absolute favorite configuration — the true vacuum. Some have argued that the field’s current state, despite having persisted for 13.8 billion years, is only temporarily stable, or “metastable.”

If so, the good times won’t last forever. In the 1980s, the physicists Sidney Coleman and Frank De Luccia described how a false vacuum of a scalar field could “decay.” At any moment, if enough pendulums in some location jitter their way into a more favorable angle, they’ll drag their neighbors to meet them, and a bubble of true vacuum will fly outward at nearly light speed. It will rewrite physics as it goes, busting up the atoms and molecules in its path. (Don’t panic. Even if our vacuum is only metastable, given its staying power so far, it will probably last for billions of years more.)

The discovery that string theory allows nearly countless vacuums jibed with another discovery from nearly two decades earlier.

Cosmologists in the early 1980s developed a hypothesis known as cosmic inflation that has become the leading theory of the universe’s birth. The theory holds that the universe began with a quick burst of exponential expansion, which handily explains the universe’s smoothness and hugeness. But inflation’s successes come at a price.

The researchers found that once cosmic inflation started, it would continue. Most of the vacuum would violently explode outward forever. Only finite regions of space would stop inflating, becoming bubbles of relative stability separated from each other by inflating space in between. Inflationary cosmologists believe we call one of these bubbles home.

A Multiverse of Vacuums

To some, the notion that we live in a multiverse — an endless landscape of vacuum bubbles — is disturbing. It makes the nature of any one vacuum (such as ours) seem random and unpredictable, curbing our ability to understand our universe. Polchinski, who died in 2018told the physicist and author Sabine Hossenfelder that discovering string theory’s landscape of vacuums initially made him so miserable it led him to seek therapy. If string theory predicts every imaginable variety of nothing, has it predicted anything?

To others, the plethora of vacuums is not a problem; “in fact, it’s a virtue,” said Andrei Linde, a prominent cosmologist at Stanford University and one of the developers of cosmic inflation. That’s because the multiverse potentially solves a great mystery: the ultra-low energy of our particular vacuum.

When theorists naïvely estimate the collective jittering of all the universe’s quantum fields, the energy is huge — enough to rapidly accelerate the expansion of space and, in short order, rip the cosmos apart. But the observed acceleration of space is extremely mild in comparison, suggesting that much of the collective jittering cancels out and our vacuum has an extraordinarily low positive value for its energy.

In a solitary universe, the tiny energy of the one and only vacuum looks like a profound puzzle. But in a multiverse, it’s just dumb luck. If different bubbles of space have different energies and expand at different rates, galaxies and planets will form only in the most lethargic bubbles. Our calm vacuum, then, is no more mysterious than the Goldilocks orbit of our planet: We find ourselves here because most everywhere else is inhospitable to life.

Love it or hate it, the multiverse hypothesis as currently understood has a problem. Despite string theory’s seemingly infinite menu of vacuums, so far no one has found a specific folding of tiny extra dimensions that corresponds to a vacuum like ours, with its barely positive energy.

These researchers suspect that our vacuum is not one of reality’s preferred states, and that it will someday jitter itself into a deeper, more stable valley. In doing so, our vacuum could lose the field that generates electrons or pick up a new palette of particles. The tightly folded dimensions could come unfurled. Or the vacuum could even give up on existence entirely.

This instability of tiny dimensions has long plagued string theory, and various ingredients have been devised to stiffen them. In December, Garcia Garcia, together with Draper and Benjamin Lillard of Illinois, calculated the lifetime of a vacuum with a single extra curled-up dimension. They considered various stabilizing bells and whistles, but they found that most mechanisms failed to stop the bubbles. Their conclusions aligned with Witten’s: When the size of the extra dimension fell below a certain threshold, the vacuum collapsed at once.

With a large enough hidden dimension, however, the vacuum could survive for many billions of years. This means that theories producing bubbles of nothing could plausibly match our universe….Nature may not be a big fan of the vacuum. In the extremely long run, it may prefer nothing at all.

Full article at Quanta Magazine.

The discussion presented above brings up the famous philosophical question: “Why is there something rather than nothing?” The (nearly) empty vacuum of space is not “nothing.” Space itself is something. If nothing (a true “nothing” without quantum fields or anything) preceded our “something,” it could not logically give rise to something, otherwise it wouldn’t truly be nothing). If “something” preceded our something, then what gave rise to that pre-existing something? Naturalism seems to require an infinite regress of somethings, made up of matter, energy, or fields, none of which show evidence of being able to exist for infinite time (and even time seems to have had a beginning).

So, why is there something rather than nothing? if infinitely existing nature isn’t in line with logic or science, then there must have been another type of cause, a cause that is immaterial, timeless, powerful enough to give rise to a whole universe, intelligent enough to create living organisms, conscious so that it could impart consciousness, and volitional, so that it could make a choice to bring this universe into being. What do you think?

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Not to mention the magic of probability over an infinite number of years as a device for explaining anything and everything!
Not to mention selection, either? Oh, disingenuous one! Regarding these agnostic ID proponents, would David Berlinski be among the "yes, I can"?Alan Fox
August 28, 2022
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KF @50, The problem with the perspective that our spacetime world began is that, in order to avoid the same problem of infinite regress, that which caused this spacetime world to begin must not be a spacetime framework. If it is, you have the same problem: an infinite succession of backwards time for the event to occur that generated our spacetime world in what one would presume to be already existent available space. Where did that, let's say "higher dimensional" spacetime world come from? There is as essential a problem postulating a creative entity that makes a decision to deliberately create a spacetime universe because it requires an already existent spacetime framework in order to do that; there must be the sequence of before and after the creation of that world, and there must be someplace to put it. So, we do not escape the logical problems of spacetime by saying "it began" or "it was caused." It just kicks that can up a step.William J Murray
August 28, 2022
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Kairosfocus @51,
Worse, it requires an infinite succession of past years which cannot be traversed stepwise.
Not to mention the magic of probability over an infinite number of years as a device for explaining anything and everything! This would be the tombstone of science. -QQuerius
August 28, 2022
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Viola Lee @51,
Q writes, “Also, note that the set of ID proponents that are strong agnostics is not empty.” Also good. Can you name some?
Yes, I can. Can you first answer my question:
• ID Depends on the Existence of an Unfair God As a strong agnostic, how would you respond to that assertion?
-QQuerius
August 28, 2022
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I wrote, "However, strong agnosticism is not about evolution. Q agreed. That's good. Q writes, "Also, note that the set of ID proponents that are strong agnostics is not empty." Also good. Can you name some? Also, KF wrote, "AF, please, go study some thermodynamics. [Condescension] Refrigerators USE thermodynamics through a process of sophisticated design, to provide cooling. They export heat and net create entropy." I'm sure AF knows that. But AF was talking about a local effect, which he made perfectly clear: AF wrote, "But if you can find an energy source, you can remain out of equilibrium with your environment, or live – in other words, at least temporarily." What he wrote does not show a lack of understanding of thermodynamics.Viola Lee
August 28, 2022
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Q, an infinite actual past for our cosmos and q foams etc behind it is a thermodynamic implausibility. Worse, it requires an infinite succession of past years which cannot be traversed stepwise. KFkairosfocus
August 28, 2022
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Viola Lee @44,
However, as CD points out, that list basically excludes further arguments about ID and evolution, and as Alan points out, just declares victory and tells everyone else to go away.
The intent is that raising the listed issues is a waste of everyone's time since the ID answers are already posted. However, if evidence is presented to object to part of one of the answers, I think that's fair game. Let's take the first one, for example: • Who Designed the Designer The answer proposed is
This argument points out that, by inferring a designer from complexity in machines, the designer must also be complexity. Why? Well just because it seems like he/she/it would. This of course then plunges into an infinite loop of who designed the designer. This infinite loop makes Intelligent Design somehow impossible. The really weird part is the argument is broadcast to us using a computer that was the result of intelligent design. Intelligent design does not speak to the nature of designers anymore than Darwin’s theory speaks to the origin of matter.
If the answer to this question is deemed inadequate by a participant, then it seems to me that they can legitimately question whether, for example, the "plunges into an infinite loop" of designer designers (tm) is really such a bad thing after all, if one already accepts an infinite past for the universe. Make sense?
However, strong agnosticism is not about evolution, and not on that list, for what that’s worth.
Agreed. Also, note that the set of ID proponents that are strong agnostics is not empty. Considering recurring themes and objections to ID, maybe another question should be added: • ID Depends on the Existence of an Unfair God As a strong agnostic, how would you respond to that assertion? And considering the title of this post, it even seems to be relevant. Imagine that ! (smile) -QQuerius
August 28, 2022
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AF, please, go study some thermodynamics. Refrigerators USE thermodynamics through a process of sophisticated design, to provide cooling. They export heat and net create entropy. KFkairosfocus
August 28, 2022
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VL (attn CD et al), no, the weak argument correctives manifestly actually clear away rubble and open room for serious discussion. Clinging to such weak arguments shows that there is a long term, basic weakness problem for most common objections to the design inference. Sadly telling. KFkairosfocus
August 28, 2022
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AF, your denial of multiple Nobel Prize winning reality that the cell uses coded algorithms to build proteins is duly noted. You confirm your negative credibility by that refusal. Your attitude to basics of reasoning and rational responsibility simply clenches over the nails in the coffin for your credibility. Sad. KF PS, I think you would do well to start with Epictetus, c mid C2, what 1900 years behind the curve:
DISCOURSES CHAPTER XXV How is logic necessary? When someone in [Epictetus'] audience said, Convince me that logic is necessary, he answered: Do you wish me to demonstrate this to you?—Yes.—Well, then, must I use a demonstrative argument?—And when the questioner had agreed to that, Epictetus asked him. How, then, will you know if I impose upon you?—As the man had no answer to give, Epictetus said: Do you see how you yourself admit that all this instruction is necessary, if, without it, you cannot so much as know whether it is necessary or not? [Notice, inescapable, thus self evidently true and antecedent to the inferential reasoning that provides deductive proofs and frameworks, including axiomatic systems and propositional calculus etc. We here see the first principles of right reason in action. Cf J. C. Wright]
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August 28, 2022
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Entropy in action everywhere...
Yet fridges? How do they manage to defy entropy, at least temporarily? Entropy is dispersal of energy. But if you can find an energy source, you can remain out of equilibrium with your environment, or live - in other words, at least temporarily.Alan Fox
August 28, 2022
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Thanks, Q. However, as CD points out, that list basically excludes further arguments about ID and evolution, and as Alan points out, just declares victory and tells everyone else to go away. However, strong agnosticism is not about evolution, and not on that list, for what that's worth.Viola Lee
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1. No. As to why not, it doesn't need to. Occam's razor. 2. No. All is subjective.Alan Fox
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AF: 1: Does or does not the living cell use complex coded algorithms to build proteins? Why/why not? ______ 2: Are there self evident first truths/principles and first duties of reason, which allow us to evaluate warrant? ______ These are pivotal, KFkairosfocus
August 28, 2022
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Viola Lee/38 In my experience, most blog comment sections have a list of discouraged behaviors relating to decorum, civility and language which is okay insofar as they do not attempt to censor content. The UD "Put a Sock in It" guidelines, again, from my perspective, are unprecedented in the attempt to censor comments that go to the heart of ID claims. UD's "rationale" is that these topics have been put to bed by ID proponents and are not worth further discussion. But, if you look at the list, the claim that these issues have been resolved in any way, shape or form is preposterous. However, UD is perfectly free to run its blog(s) however it wants. There isn't any real enforcement, so the guidelines are more or less window dressing. Besides, some of the worst transgressors are the pro-ID commenters themselves......chuckdarwin
August 28, 2022
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Rule 1: My obstinacy is victory. The object of argument is to convince me. If I am not convinced, I win. Rule 2: My ignorance is the best preservative for my obstinacy. If I learn things, these things may alter my views. Therefore, best to learn nothing, so that I will never need to concede any ground, anywhere.
Saw this in a comment thread elsewhere. Anyone here think it applies? To me? To Querius? Anyone? (H/T Puck)Alan Fox
August 27, 2022
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Viola Lee @37, Welcome back, at least for the moment. Glad you asked. In the Uncommon Descent drop-down options, hover over COMMENT POLICY and click the second option called "Put A Sock In It" to see the reference. For a slang definition, a search yields the following definition: "verb, To stop talking; to be quiet; to shut one's mouth." I think the intent of the expression here is not to continually bring up issues that have already been addressed repeatedly, including the following in the list provided (along with answers): • Who Designed the Designer • Intelligent Design is Creationism in a Cheap Tuxedo • Since Intelligent Design Proponents Believe in a “Designer” or “Creator” They Can Be Called “Creationists” • Intelligent Design is an Attempt by the Religious Right to Establish a Theocracy • Bad Design Means No Design • No Real Scientists Take Intelligent Design Seriously • “Evolution” Proves that Intelligent Design is Wrong • Real Scientists Do Not Use Terms Like Microevolution or Macroevolution • Intelligent Design Tries To Claim That Everything is Designed Where We Obviously See Necessity and Chance • The Explanatory Filter Implies that a Snowflake is Designed by an Intelligent Agent. This Proves that the Design Inference is Not Reliable! • What About the spreading of antibiotic resistance? • What Do You Mean by “Constructive” Beneficial Mutations Exactly? • Intelligent Design proponents deny, without having a reason, that randomness can produce an effect, and then go make something up to fill the void • Intelligent Design is Not a Valid Theory Since it Does Not Make Predictions • The Evidence for Common Descent is Incompatible with Intelligent Design • It is certainly true that evolution predicts only minor changes from generation to generation – but when you look at the cumulative effect of hundreds of millions or billions of replications then those many, many changes can incrementally lead to large changes • Macro-evolution *is* nothing but lots and lots of microevolution! • Nothing is Wrong with the Modern Synthesis! • The Information in Complex Specified Information (CSI) Cannot Be Qualified • What types of life are Irreducibly Complex? Or which life is not Irreducibly Complex? • In the Flagellum Behe Ignores that this Organization of Proteins has Verifiable Functions when Particular Proteins are Omitted, i.e. in its simplest form, an ion pump • Darwinian evolution is a Vastly More Simplistic Argument than Intelligent Design • The Designer Must be Complex and Thus Could Never Have Existed • Intelligent Design is Completely Out of Date! It’s arguing against old idea and not modern evolutionary theory • Intelligent Design Does Not Do Research • Intelligent Design Cannot Be Falsified • William Dembski “Dispensed” with the Explanatory Filter (EF) and thus Intelligent Design Cannot Work • ID Proponents Wrongly Claim that Natural Selection Does Not Work • Intelligent Design Makes No Scientific Observations • Behe is Jumping to Conclusions. P.falciparum Did Not Evolve Because It Did Not Need to Evolve. In Other Words It is So Perfect Already That It Cannot Improve Upon Itself. • ID Proponents Talk a Lot About Front-Loading But Never Explain What It Means • Lenski’s Research on Citrate-Eating E. Coli Refututes Behe’s Edge of Evolution Hypothesis • The Evidence for Gradualism in the Phylogenetic Tree of Life is Overwhelming • Lateral (Or Horizontal) Gene Transfer (LGT) is Strong Evidence Against ID • Genetic Entropy is False and Thus ID is Falsified as Well -QQuerius
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Edit: "I’m not sure what “There’s a sock waiting for you” means.Viola Lee
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I'm not sure what "There’s a sock waiting for you", but in reference to the question of "ultimate origins" or whether a God of the theistic type exists, CD's invoking the the position of strong agnosticism is quite reasonable: "I don't know and you don't know either." Calling that crap is, well, a bunch of crap. And asking if CD "worships 'I don't know'" is a silly question. No wonder I don't bother to interact here anymore. (Although obviously I did step in to make this comment.)Viola Lee
August 27, 2022
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CD at 31, Cut the crap, OK? There's a sock waiting for you. Do you worship "I don't know"? Are you a MILITANT whatever? And why is the word militant even used? To tell me I should agree with someone who gives "I don't know" as the answer?relatd
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Kairosfocus @33,
we have a serious cultural problem of selective hyperskepticism rooted in willful denial. Often, of the self evident. The unwelcome self evident.
Well said! While we need to use the phrase, “we absolutely, definitely don’t know,” much more often in science, our admitted scientific ignorance should NOT be selective, Procrustean , and philosophically convenient! We also need to eschew the vacuous “musta, coulda, and shoulda” rationalizations not supported by observational, testable science, but that are rather a scientific mythology in support of a certain worldview. For example, punctuated equilibrium was/is enthusiastically embraced by the Marxist worldview principally due to philosophical compatibility—it just “hasta” be true. For another example, considering what we can actually observe and test, we see . . . Entropy in action everywhere, including genomic entropy such as the narrowing of genetic variation in the tiger genome among the world’s 4,000 remaining tigers and the 100-150 mutations per generation in humans, who also have low genetic diversity compared with chimpanzees. The fossil record shows a completely different story than our current scientific mythology. Rather than an imaginative tale of ever-more evolved organisms, the record plainly shows stratification by microbiome, aquatic-flow deposition, mixtures of modern-looking and extinct species, which demonstrate a history with a far richer biodiversity than today and with a much greater continuity between a much larger number of species. Think of a long comb with two-thirds of its teeth missing: the remaining teeth did not “evolve” from the other teeth. Ubiquitous and intrinsic background radiation should have turned ancient cells and DNA into powder. According to research published in Nature, the half-life of DNA under *ideal* (-5 deg. C) conditions is 521 years. Thus, “Even in ideal preservation conditions, the scientists calculated that every single DNA bond would be broken at 6.8 million years” (emphasis added). Nevertheless, from another published article . . .
A bacterial spore was revived, cultured, and identified from the abdominal contents of extinct bees preserved for 25 to 40 million years in buried Dominican amber. Rigorous surface decontamination of the amber and aseptic procedures were used during the recovery of the bacterium. Several lines of evidence indicated that the isolated bacterium was of ancient origin and not an extant contaminant. The characteristic enzymatic, biochemical, and 16S ribosomal DNA profiles indicated that the ancient bacterium is most closely related to extant Bacillus sphaericus.
So, the observational, factual conclusion is that if the extinct bacteria were revived, they could not possibly be older than 6.8 million years under ideal conditions. So something must give way! But it hasn't. -QQuerius
August 27, 2022
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WJM, the singularity, aka bang. Wider spacetime or quasi, run into thermodynamic dissipation and traversal of the implicitly transfinite actual past. We are forced to contemplate necessary being. KFkairosfocus
August 27, 2022
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CD, we have a serious cultural problem of selective hyperskepticism rooted in willful denial. Often, of the self evident. The unwelcome self evident. Start with, the origins and causal roots of the cosmos must be compatible with our existence in a going concern world. One where, on pain of self referential absurdity, we are rational, responsible, significantly free, knowing and potentially knowing, morally governed [i.e. there are naturally evident first duties/laws connected to the good/right etc . . . starting with duties to truth, right reason, warrant etc], contingent creatures. Deny these and one immediately undercuts his or her own ability to reason. That points to things we can, should and for the most part do know:
1: once there is a definable topic, a certain minimum of objective knowledge is undeniable. As, attempted denial or pretence of radical across the board ignorance or of un-know-ability is self referential and self refuting. 2: This includes, Mathematics, logic, general topics, morals, history etc. Yes, for example the claim there are no objective, knowable moral truths is a claimed objective truth on that topic and refutes itself. 3: On origins and logic of being, the weak form principle of sufficient reason, wPSR, undeniably obtains. Namely, for what is/is not/may be/etc, we can ask and inquire as to why such a state of affairs is the case, with some hope of an answer. 4: This includes that entities and states of affairs or candidate worlds etc fall under: impossible vs possible of being, and of the latter, contingent vs necessary being. 5: Thus a possible world is a sufficiently complete description of a feasible state of affairs, and impossibility of being traces to requiring that some aspect x both be and not be, as with a Euclidean square circle. 6: In this context, we inhabit a common, evidently contingent world, which thus is not ultimate or root reality. For instance, credibly, it began. (It is root reality, not our shared space time domain, which would have to hold necessary being, eternal character.) 7: Were there ever utter non-being, such having no causal capability, that state of affairs would forever obtain. Put another way, that a world now is entails that there is a necessary being world root with adequate causal capacity to be source of our world. 8: Nor does circular retrocausation obtain, as the not yet being is a form of non being. 9: It can be shown that, given that time at cosmological scale is a thermodynamic, causally successive process in which concentrations of energy are gradually dissipated . . . time's arrow . . . 10: It can be shown that . . . such a causal-temporal thermodynamic, dissipative process cannot have been limitless in the past, i.e. the past is finitely bound in say number of years. 11: This points to a necessary being world root, on logic of being and of structure and quantity [mathematics]. 12: Further, such must be adequate to ground moral government, requiring the inherently good, utterly wise and powerful.
So, professions of ignorance and attempts to impose an empire of ignorance or a u-no-verse . . . I accept that amendment with a hint of imperialistic ignorance . . . fail. KFkairosfocus
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CD @31, I have no problem admitting I don't know, but I can't say that nobody else knows. I don't know what other people do and do not know. Admittedly not knowing doesn't reduce my enjoyment of talking about it, though. It's quite a mysterious thing when trying to apply reason. Infinite regress at least appears nonsensical, but the idea of a beginning of spacetime appears equally nonsensical.William J Murray
August 27, 2022
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WJM/30 There's a third alternative answer to the question of "your ultimate origin." That answer is "I don't know." It's the most honest answer for sure. I always liked Michael Shermer's answer which he calls militant agnosticism: "I don't know and neither do you......"chuckdarwin
August 27, 2022
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To be fair, it seems to me to be a natural progression from: (1) highly complex, functional, interdependent, organized structures generated from random forces, to (2) fully functioning universe capable of producing intelligent life generated from nothing. It also seems to me to be the inevitable perspective of existential nihilism to consider your ultimate origin to be "nothing."William J Murray
August 27, 2022
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Since Pater Kimbridge hasn't responded, let me point out the other major problem with the universe coming out of non-existence. And that is, non-existence, by definition has no space-time, and without time there are no millions of years nor are there any probabilities. -QQuerius
August 26, 2022
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It might be helpful to think of "nothing" as non-existence. For example, the Easter Bunny is non-existent, and so we are led to believe that Pater Kimbridge @15 is asserting that the universe came from the Easter Bunny! I don't think so. -QQuerius
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I like U-no-verse even better. :-)WitnessFTP
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The "no-verse"? I like it! I shall adopt the term.EDTA
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