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Four-dimensional star? So cosmologists are just making this stuff up now?

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Sounds that way.

The problem, as the authors see it, is that the big bang hypothesis has our relatively comprehensible, uniform, and predictable universe arising from the physics-destroying insanity of a singularity. It seems unlikely.

So perhaps something else happened. Perhaps our universe was never singular in the first place.

Their suggestion: our known universe could be the three-dimensional “wrapping” around a four-dimensional black hole’s event horizon. In this scenario, our universe burst into being when a star in a four-dimensional universe collapsed into a black hole.

In our three-dimensional universe, black holes have two-dimensional event horizons – that is, they are surrounded by a two-dimensional boundary that marks the “point of no return.” In the case of a four-dimensional universe, a black hole would have a three-dimensional event horizon.

In their proposed scenario, our universe was never inside the singularity; rather, it came into being outside an event horizon, protected from the singularity. It originated as – and remains – just one feature in the imploded wreck of a four-dimensional star.

Why are they doing this? They are stuck with facts they don’t like. See The Science Fictions series at your fingertips (cosmology).

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7 Replies to “Four-dimensional star? So cosmologists are just making this stuff up now?

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    Dionisio says:

    Hmm… interesting ideas… kind of seductive, aren’t they?
    After all, making something from scratch may not be as easy as it looks. In Spanish they say ‘no es soplar y hacer botellas’
    Hence, one has to start from something, right?
    Kind of like in the ongoing OOL and evo-devo discussion. Isn’t it?
    Oh well, whatever…

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    mahuna says:

    This is just more “pushing the lump down the python” nonsense.

    So where did the 4th Dimensional Star come from? A 4 Dimensional Big Bang?

    And then the Creator caused the 4th Dimensional Star to collapse into a Black Hole??

    Ideas like this don’t EXPLAIN anything. They just provide reasons to write worthless number juggling papers that attract grant money.

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    Dionisio says:

    mahuna

    Ideas like this don’t EXPLAIN anything. They just provide reasons to write worthless number juggling papers that attract grant money.

    Money that could be used better in other more beneficial research areas like biology, where we still have many important questions to answer. For example, some still incurable diseases seem directly related to things going wrong with the asymmetric cell fate determinants and chromosome segregation mechanisms, where we still have some poorly understood issues. More resources carefully assigned to research in that important area could produce more bang for the buck than financing senseless speculations in astronomy, SETI and that kind of stuff.
    Starting at comment # 9 in the following thread, there are over 190 posted examples of the research going on in that important subject:
    http://www.uncommondescent.com.....ent-509942

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    jstanley01 says:

    Prospective students should count this post as a warning that an education in theoretical physics represents a worse dead end, career-wise, than on-the-job training under the golden arches (a pursuit that, at least, doesn’t involve servicing a six-figure student loan). Seriously. And unless the government decides to fund a particle accelerator the size of the solar system, it’s likely to remain that way.

    Better to just get a math degree, then go to work for a Wall Street hedge fund, writing algos that give your firm nano second edges on the competition. You know, something with some kind of genuine application in the real world. Unless, that is, you happen to like spinning just-so stories that only the kindergarteners in your audience will be able to truly appreciate.

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    bornagain77 says:

    The event horizon of a blackhole is the absolute last place that anyone should ever think of looking for the conditions necessary for the creation event of the universe,,,

    “Einstein’s equation predicts that, as the astronaut reaches the singularity (of the black-hole), the tidal forces grow infinitely strong, and their chaotic oscillations become infinitely rapid. The astronaut dies and the atoms which his body is made become infinitely and chaotically distorted and mixed-and then, at the moment when everything becomes infinite (the tidal strengths, the oscillation frequencies, the distortions, and the mixing), spacetime ceases to exist.”
    Kip S. Thorne – “Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein’s Outrageous Legacy” pg. 476

    Space-Time of a Black hole
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0VOn9r4dq8

    In fact black holes are found to the maximum source of entropic decay in the universe:

    Entropy of the Universe – Hugh Ross – May 2010
    Excerpt: Egan and Lineweaver found that supermassive black holes are the largest contributor to the observable universe’s entropy. They showed that these supermassive black holes contribute about 30 times more entropy than what the previous research teams estimated.
    http://www.reasons.org/entropy-universe

    In fact, Penrose playing off the entropic decay inherent in black holes calculated the necessary initial entropic state of the universe

    “But why was the big bang so precisely organized, whereas the big crunch (or the singularities in black holes) would be expected to be totally chaotic? It would appear that this question can be phrased in terms of the behaviour of the WEYL part of the space-time curvature at space-time singularities. What we appear to find is that there is a constraint WEYL = 0 (or something very like this) at initial space-time singularities-but not at final singularities-and this seems to be what confines the Creator’s choice to this very tiny region of phase space.”
    Roger Penrose – How Special Was The Big Bang?

    The Physics of the Small and Large: What is the Bridge Between Them? Roger Penrose
    Excerpt: “The time-asymmetry is fundamentally connected to with the Second Law of Thermodynamics: indeed, the extraordinarily special nature (to a greater precision than about 1 in 10^10^123, in terms of phase-space volume) can be identified as the “source” of the Second Law (Entropy).”

    How special was the big bang? – Roger Penrose
    Excerpt: This now tells us how precise the Creator’s aim must have been: namely to an accuracy of one part in 10^10^123.
    (from the Emperor’s New Mind, Penrose, pp 339-345 – 1989)

    In fact, entropic decay, of which black holes are the primary source of, is the primary reason why biological life grows old and dies in this universe,,,

    Entropy Explains Aging, Genetic Determinism Explains Longevity, and Undefined Terminology Explains Misunderstanding Both – 2007
    Excerpt: There is a huge body of knowledge supporting the belief that age changes are characterized by increasing entropy, which results in the random loss of molecular fidelity, and accumulates to slowly overwhelm maintenance systems [1–4].,,,
    http://www.plosgenetics.org/ar.....en.0030220

    “Gain in entropy always means loss of information, and nothing more.”
    Gilbert Newton Lewis

    John Sanford on (Genetic Entropy) – Down, Not Up – 2-4-2012 (at Loma Linda University) – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....L0#t=1040s

    Notes from John Sanford’s preceding video:
    *3 new mutations every time a cell divides in your body
    * Average cell of 15 year old has up to 6000 mutations
    *Average cell of 60 year old has 40,000 mutations
    Reproductive cells are ‘designed’ so that, early on in development, they are ‘set aside’ and thus they do not accumulate mutations as the rest of the cells of our bodies do. Regardless of this protective barrier against the accumulation of slightly detrimental mutations still we find that,,,
    *60-175 mutations are passed on to each new generation.

    This following video brings the point personally home to us about the effects of genetic entropy:

    Aging Process – 85 years in 40 seconds – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91Fwf_sMhk

    ,,, thus, atheists/naturalists, in postulating black holes as the creator of the universe, are in fact postulating the maximum source of death in the universe as the creator of the universe! Something is terribly, terribly, amiss!

    Verse, Quote, and Music:

    Romans 8:20-21
    For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

    GILBERT NEWTON LEWIS: AMERICAN CHEMIST (1875-1946)
    “I have attempted to give you a glimpse…of what there may be of soul in chemistry. But it may have been in vain. Perchance the chemist is already damned and the guardian the blackest. But if the chemist has lost his soul, he will not have lost his courage and as he descends into the inferno, sees the rows of glowing furnaces and sniffs the homey fumes of brimstone, he will call out-: ‘Asmodeus, hand me a test-tube.’”
    Gilbert Newton Lewis

    Creed – One Last Breath
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnkuBUAwfe0

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    bornagain77 says:

    In contrast to looking to the ‘physics-destroying insanity of a singularity’ of a 4-Dimensional black hole for the source of creation of the universe, there is another ‘physics-destroying insanity of a singularity’ we ought to be looking towards.

    Most people who take even a casual interest in science are aware that there are two types of singularities in the universe. One is the singularity that brought the universe instantaneously into being at creation event of the big bang, and the other singularity is at the destructive event horizon at the ‘surface’ of a black hole. Yet there is another singularity that occurred in the universe that we have evidence of. Moreover, in contrast to extremely destructive singularities of black holes, that are associated with death through entropy, this is a ‘life giving’ singularity,,,

    Turin shroud – (event horizon) – video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHVUGK6UFK8

    THE EVENT HORIZON (Space-Time Singularity) OF THE SHROUD OF TURIN. – Isabel Piczek – Particle Physicist
    Excerpt: We have stated before that the images on the Shroud firmly indicate the total absence of Gravity. Yet they also firmly indicate the presence of the Event Horizon. These two seemingly contradict each other and they necessitate the past presence of something more powerful than Gravity that had the capacity to solve the above paradox.
    http://shroud3d.com/findings/i.....-formation

    A Quantum Hologram of Christ’s Resurrection? by Chuck Missler
    Excerpt: “You can read the science of the Shroud, such as total lack of gravity, lack of entropy (without gravitational collapse), no time, no space—it conforms to no known law of physics.” The phenomenon of the image brings us to a true event horizon, a moment when all of the laws of physics change drastically. Dame Piczek created a one-fourth size sculpture of the man in the Shroud. When viewed from the side, it appears as if the man is suspended in mid air (see graphic, below), indicating that the image defies previously accepted science. The phenomenon of the image brings us to a true event horizon, a moment when all of the laws of physics change drastically.
    http://www.khouse.org/articles/2008/847

    Particle Radiation from the Body – July 2012 – M. Antonacci, A. C. Lind
    Excerpt: The Shroud’s frontal and dorsal body images are encoded with the same amount of intensity, independent of any pressure or weight from the body. The bottom part of the cloth (containing the dorsal image) would have born all the weight of the man’s supine body, yet the dorsal image is not encoded with a greater amount of intensity than the frontal image. Radiation coming from the body would not only explain this feature, but also the left/right and light/dark reversals found on the cloth’s frontal and dorsal body images.
    http://www.academicjournals.or.....onacci.pdf

    Turin Shroud: a medical forensic study of its blood marks and image (Body Position) – G.Lavoie – May 2010
    http://www.acheiropoietos.info.....oieWeb.pdf

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    bornagain77 says:

    Shroud Of Turin Is Authentic, Italian Study Suggests – December 2011
    Excerpt: Last year scientists were able to replicate marks on the cloth using highly advanced ultraviolet techniques that weren’t available 2,000 years ago — nor during the medieval times, for that matter.,,, Since the shroud and “all its facets” still cannot be replicated using today’s top-notch technology, researchers suggest it is impossible that the original image could have been created in either period.
    http://www.thegopnet.com/shrou.....ests-87037

    Scientific hypotheses on the origin of the body image of the Shroud – 2010
    Excerpt: for example, if we consider the density of radiation that we used to color a single square centimeter of linen, to reproduce the entire image of the Shroud with a single flash of light would require fourteen thousand lasers firing simultaneously each on a different area of linen. In other words, it would take a laser light source the size of an entire building.
    http://www.30giorni.it/articoli_id_22597_l3.htm

    Scientists say Turin Shroud is supernatural – December 2011
    Excerpt: After years of work trying to replicate the colouring on the shroud, a similar image has been created by the scientists.
    However, they only managed the effect by scorching equivalent linen material with high-intensity ultra violet lasers, undermining the arguments of other research, they say, which claims the Turin Shroud is a medieval hoax.
    Such technology, say researchers from the National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development (Enea), was far beyond the capability of medieval forgers, whom most experts have credited with making the famous relic.
    “The results show that a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,” they said.
    And in case there was any doubt about the preternatural degree of energy needed to make such distinct marks, the Enea report spells it out: “This degree of power cannot be reproduced by any normal UV source built to date.”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/n.....79512.html

    The absorbed energy in the Shroud body image formation appears as contributed by discrete values – Giovanni Fazio, Giuseppe Mandaglio – 2008
    Excerpt: This result means that the optical density distribution,, can not be attributed at the absorbed energy described in the framework of the classical physics model. It is, in fact, necessary to hypothesize a absorption by discrete values of the energy where the ‘quantum’ is equal to the one necessary to yellow one fibril.
    http://cab.unime.it/journals/i.....802004/271

    “the closest science can come to explaining how the image of the Man in the Shroud got there is by comparing the situation to a controlled burst of high-intensity radiation similar to the Hiroshima bomb explosion which “printed” images of incinerated people on building walls.”
    Frank Tribbe – Leading Scholar And Author On Shroud Research

    Shroud Of Turin – Photographic Negative – 3D Hologram – The Lamb – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5664213/

    Verse and Music:

    Matthew 28:18
    Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

    This Is Amazing Grace – Phil Wickham
    http://myktis.com/songs/this-is-amazing-grace/

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