Some people ask why we live in such a big universe?

_{Denyse O'Leary

January 25, 2015

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It’s an interesting question which gives rise to a responding question: How do those people know that some other type of universe should exist?

The photo is made up of 411 individual photos, and spans about 40,000 light years through space. If you were to download it to your computer it would be near the equivalent of downloading a fully fledged, 3 hour, high definition movie to your hard drive, since the photo is 4.3 gigabytes of hard drive space. Remember, it’s just a photograph. It’s currently the sharpest picture ever taken of the Andromeda galaxy, and if you wanted to show the whole thing on a screen, you’d need about 600 HD TV’s to fit the whole picture.

If you visit the SpaceTelescope.org you can enjoy zooming in and out of the photo without downloading it to your computer.

[Now that last sounds like a good idea.]

To understand why we never hear any more about how Americans have landed on the moon but only about pointless, possibly tax-funded, controversies about other universes, see fingertips.

Hat tip: Daniel Quinones

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bornagain77 @ 11
Me_Think the exponent for expansion of the universe is derived from billions of light years. Thus the effect of a few thousand years is negligible.,,, Moreover,,, We Live At The Right Time In Cosmic History (to view the Cosmic microwave background radiation)
So now you agree it can't be exactly 10^-4? 74.3 Km/Sec/Mpc is the current expansion rate. The earlier universe was radiation dominated with a different expansion rate, so variation did exist. Again, I am just pointing out the silly notion that we are more privileged than Jesus Christ and His disciples !
We Live At The Right Time In Cosmic History (to view the Cosmic microwave background radiation)– Hugh Ross – video
It will take 2 trillion years for the light to have wavelength equal to the size of universe. Only then will our universe disappear from our view. Everyone who lives up to 2 trillion years are living at the 'right time' ! So don't worry. Again, are we more privileged than Jesus Christ and His disciples? !Me_Think_{January 27, 2015
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Me_Think the exponent for how big the universe is is derived from billions of light years. Thus the effect of a few thousand years of expansion is negligible.,,, Moreover,,, We Live At The Right Time In Cosmic History (to view the Cosmic microwave background radiation)– Hugh Ross – video http://vimeo.com/31940671 also see: The Fine-Tuning for Discoverability – Robin Collins – March 22, 2014 http://home.messiah.edu/~rcollins/Fine-tuning/Greer-Heard%20Forum%20paper%20draft%20for%20posting.pdfbornagain77_{January 27, 2015
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bornagain77 @ 9
10^-4 meters, which ‘just so happens’ to be directly in the exponential center of all possible sizes of our physical reality (not just ‘nearly’ in the exponential center!). i.e. 10^-4 is, exponentially, right in the middle of 10^-35 meters, which is the smallest possible unit of length, which is Planck length, and 10^27 meters, which is the largest possible unit of ‘observable’ length since space-time was created in the Big Bang, which is the diameter of the universe.
Universe is expanding rapidly. The observable universe during the period of Jesus Christ would have been far far smaller, the universe during Galileo's period too would have been smaller, so the exponential center would be totally different than 10^4. You are implying that people in Jesus Christ period and generations after Christ were less privileged than us !!Me_Think_{January 27, 2015
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The following site is also very interesting to the topic of ‘centrality in the universe’;
The Scale of The Universe - Part 2 - interactive graph (recently updated in 2012 with cool features) http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white
The preceding interactive graph and video points out that the smallest scale visible to the human eye (as well as a human egg) is at 10^-4 meters, which 'just so happens' to be directly in the exponential center of all possible sizes of our physical reality (not just ‘nearly’ in the exponential center!). i.e. 10^-4 is, exponentially, right in the middle of 10^-35 meters, which is the smallest possible unit of length, which is Planck length, and 10^27 meters, which is the largest possible unit of 'observable' length since space-time was created in the Big Bang, which is the diameter of the universe. This is very interesting for, as far as I can tell, the limits to human vision (as well as the size of the human egg) could have, theoretically, been at very different positions than directly in the exponential middle. Moreover, from a slightly different angle, ‘Life’, with a capital L, is also found to be central to the universe in that Christ’s resurrection from the dead provides a very credible reconciliation to the most profound enigma in modern science. Namely the unification of General Relativity with Quantum Mechanics/Special Relativity (Quantum Electrodynamics) into a ‘Theory of Everything’:
The Center Of The Universe Is Life (Jesus Christ) – General Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Entropy and The Shroud Of Turin – video http://vimeo.com/34084462
Verse and Music:
Isaiah 45:18-19 For thus says the Lord, who created the heavens, who is God, who formed the earth and made it, who established it, who did not create it in vain, who formed it to be inhabited: “I am the Lord, and there is no other. I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth; I did not say to the seed of Jacob, ‘seek me in vain’; I, the Lord speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.” HOLD YOUR HEAD UP - Argent https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84503534&v=w8i500NGJsw&x-yt-ts=1421914688
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as to "Universe is for galaxies, not for us." Actually, contrary to what you believe, the earth, and people on it, are not nearly as insignificant as you think:
Is there a violation of the Copernican principle in radio sky? - Ashok K. Singal - May 17, 2013 Abstract: Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) observations from the WMAP satellite have shown some unexpected anisotropies (directionally dependent observations), which surprisingly seem to be aligned with the ecliptic\cite {20,16,15}. The latest data from the Planck satellite have confirmed the presence of these anisotropies\cite {17}. Here we report even larger anisotropies in the sky distributions of powerful extended quasars and some other sub-classes of radio galaxies in the 3CRR catalogue, one of the oldest and most intensively studies sample of strong radio sources\cite{21,22,3}. The anisotropies lie about a plane passing through the two equinoxes and the north celestial pole (NCP). We can rule out at a 99.995% confidence level the hypothesis that these asymmetries are merely due to statistical fluctuations. Further, even the distribution of observed radio sizes of quasars and radio galaxies show large systematic differences between these two sky regions. The redshift distribution appear to be very similar in both regions of sky for all sources, which rules out any local effects to be the cause of these anomalies. Two pertinent questions then arise. First, why should there be such large anisotropies present in the sky distribution of some of the most distant discrete sources implying inhomogeneities in the universe at very large scales (covering a fraction of the universe)? What is intriguing even further is why such anisotropies should lie about a great circle decided purely by the orientation of earth's rotation axis and/or the axis of its revolution around the sun? It looks as if these axes have a preferential placement in the larger scheme of things, implying an apparent breakdown of the Copernican principle or its more generalization, cosmological principle, upon which all modern cosmological theories are based upon. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.4134.pdf Why is the solar system cosmically aligned? BY Dragan Huterer - 2007 The solar system seems to line up with the largest cosmic features. Is this mere coincidence or a signpost to deeper insights? Caption under figure on page 43: ODD ALIGNMENTS hide within the multipoles of the cosmic microwave background. In this combination of the quadrupole and octopole, a plane bisects the sphere between the largest warm and cool lobes. The ecliptic — the plane of Earth’s orbit projected onto the celestial sphere — is aligned parallel to the plane between the lobes. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~huterer/PRESS/CMB_Huterer.pdf
Of note: The preceding article was written before the Planck data (with WMPA & COBE data), but the multipoles were actually verified by Planck.
A Large Scale Pattern from Optical Quasar Polarization Vectors - 2013 Testing the Dipole Modulation Model in CMBR - 2013
There was a recent video made on this 'principle':
Does the Universe Revolve Around Earth? - The Principle - video interview Excerpt: three probes of this radiation all showed the same proof that the universe and its galaxies appear to be arrayed around Earth and the Milky Way. "All of the radiation which comes from everywhere in the universe - there's no place we don't see it - it's all coming toward us and aligned with us," Sungenis said.,,, there is provable design in the universe and Earth's at the center of it - like what scientists found with the 2005 Sloan Digital Sky Survey of all the visible cosmos. "As far out as we could see in the universe the galaxies were aligned in concentric spheres around - guess what - Earth, or our galaxy," http://m.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2014/October/Film-Shocker-Does-the-Universe-Revolve-Around-Earth-/
Further notes:
We Live At The Right Time In Cosmic History (to view the Cosmic microwave background radiation)– Hugh Ross – video http://vimeo.com/31940671 The very conditions that make Earth hospitable to intelligent life also make it well suited to viewing and analyzing the universe as a whole. - Jay Richards - Privileged Planet The Privileged Planet (refutation of mediocrity principle) - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnWyPIzTOTw Extreme Fine Tuning of Light for Life and Scientific Discovery – video https://vimeo.com/114136732 The Fine-Tuning for Discoverability - Robin Collins - March 22, 2014 http://home.messiah.edu/~rcollins/Fine-tuning/Greer-Heard%20Forum%20paper%20draft%20for%20posting.pdf The Place of Life and Man in Nature: Defending the Anthropocentric Thesis - Michael J. Denton - February 25, 2013 Summary (page 11) Many of the properties of the key members of Henderson’s vital ensemble —water, oxygen, CO2, HCO3 —are in several instances fit specifically for warm-blooded, air-breathing organisms such as ourselves. These include the thermal properties of water, its low viscosity, the gaseous nature of oxygen and CO2 at ambient temperatures, the inertness of oxygen at ambient temperatures, and the bicarbonate buffer, with its anomalous pKa value and the elegant means of acid-base regulation it provides for air-breathing organisms. Some of their properties are irrelevant to other classes of organisms or even maladaptive. It is very hard to believe there could be a similar suite of fitness for advanced carbon-based life forms. If carbon-based life is all there is, as seems likely, then the design of any active complex terrestrial being would have to closely resemble our own. Indeed the suite of properties of water, oxygen, and CO2 together impose such severe constraints on the design and functioning of the respiratory and cardiovascular systems that their design, even down to the details of capillary and alveolar structure can be inferred from first principles. For complex beings of high metabolic rate, the designs actualized in complex Terran forms are all that can be. There are no alternative physiological designs in the domain of carbon-based life that can achieve the high metabolic activity manifest in man and other higher organisms. http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/view/BIO-C.2013.1/BIO-C.2013.1 The Galileo Affair and “Life/Consciousness” as the true "Center of the Universe" Excerpt: I find it extremely interesting, and strange, that quantum mechanics tells us that instantaneous quantum wave collapse to its 'uncertain' 3D state is centered on each individual conscious observer in the universe, whereas, 4D space-time cosmology (General Relativity) tells us each 3D point in the universe is central to the expansion of the universe. These findings of modern science are pretty much exactly what we would expect to see if this universe were indeed created, and sustained, from a higher dimension by a omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal Being who knows everything that is happening everywhere in the universe at the same time. These findings certainly seem to go to the very heart of the age old question asked of many parents by their children, “How can God hear everybody’s prayers at the same time?”,,, i.e. Why should the expansion of the universe, or the quantum wave collapse of the entire universe, even care that you or I, or anyone else, should exist? Only Theism, Christian Theism in particular, offers a rational explanation as to why you or I, or anyone else, should have such undeserved significance in such a vast universe. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BHAcvrc913SgnPcDohwkPnN4kMJ9EDX-JJSkjc4AXmA/edit
Verse
Psalm 33:13-15 The LORD looks from heaven; He sees all the sons of men. From the place of His dwelling He looks on all the inhabitants of the earth; He fashions their hearts individually; He considers all their works.
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Universe is for galaxies, not for us. We live on Earth , comparable to dust mote (when compared to the observable universe) in Sunbeam.Me_Think_{January 27, 2015
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The bible implies why the universe is so big. Its the original eternity. The original home for breeding mankind. If we never died, plan one, then today the pop would be some 40 billion. In a million years it would be a trillion or so. SO we need elbow room. The universe is simply undeveloped real estate. It was for man. No one else out there. It is eternity.Robert Byers_{January 26, 2015
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Hugh Ross - The Anthropic Principle and The Anthropic Inequality - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/8469673/ Lucky Us: Turning the Copernican Principle on Its Head - Daniel Bakken - January 26, 2015 Excerpt: What if intelligence and technology hadn't arisen in Earth's habitability time window? Waltham in Lucky Planet asks "So, how do we explain the remarkable coincidence that the timescale for the emergence of intelligence is almost the same as the timescale for habitability?" Researchers Carter and Watson have dubbed this idea the anthropic inequality and it seems surprising, if it is not for some purpose.,,, http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/01/lucky_us_turnin093011.htmlbornagain77_{January 26, 2015
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And not only is the Universe impossibly fine tuned, recent discoveries indicate the Earth is near the center. Please, please, no. Don't add insult to injury. http://mobile.extremetech.com/latest/192864-weve-found-the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe-and-its-right-on-our-galactic-doorstep?origref=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F The recently discovered cosmological "Axis of Evil" also points towards Earth. A fined tuned Universe is bad enough without Earth being in a special place.ppolish_{January 25, 2015
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"How do those people know that some other type of universe should exist?" Maybe because the fact that our Universe DOES exist in the first place is impossibly unlikely. The guys/gals who understand the maths of fine tuning, the physicists and cosmologists, understand the impossibility of this one Universe emerging. Not only SHOULD there be some other kind of universes, there HAS to be other ones out there. Trillions raised to the trillions of other universes. There has to be. Please, please, there has to be.ppolish_{January 25, 2015
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Some people ask why we live in such a big universe? We were born.velikovskys_{January 25, 2015
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I should think big universes are better than small ones. Plenty of space for expansion, for seeking out new life and new civilizations, for boldly going, etc....Seversky_{January 25, 2015
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