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Does the essential nature of time remain the universe’s greatest mystery?

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“About time: Adventures in the fourth dimension” is an interesting series of New Scientist articles on that famous fourth. It’s essentially a bid for subscriptions, but while you decide, you might learn, for example, that “The essential nature of time remains the universe’s greatest mystery.” Hmmm. We’d thought the essential mystery was the exact relations between the four fundamental forces, but now that writer Sturt Clark mentions it, ….

Or this from Amanda Gefter:

As we know only too well, time, unlike space, has only one direction – it flows from past to future, and never the other way round.

. A thorough search of the laws of physics turns up no such arrow of time. For example, you can use Newton’s laws of motion to work out where a ball was thrown from in the past just as well as where it will land in the future.

7 Replies to “Does the essential nature of time remain the universe’s greatest mystery?

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    cantor says:

    http://www.amazon.com/Cycles-T.....0224080369

    Roger Penrose has a very thought-provoking discussion of he 2LOT in the Prologue and Chapter 1 of his new book.

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    bornagain77 says:

    In science, before Einstein, time was held to be a independent entity that was constant in flow and infinite in duration i.e. it was held that time had no beginning or end and that its ‘flow’ has always been the same in all places in the universe at all times. In fact I believe that that particular view of infinite, and constant, time was/is axiomatic to Newton’s equations of gravity and motion. The same can be said for space. Space, before Einstein, was held to be infinite, in regards to width, length, and height, and it also was held to be without beginning or end. And as well, I believe that that view of infinite, without beginning or end, space also was/is axiomatic to Newton’s equations on gravity and motion. And thus Einstein came along and with his insight,,,

    Albert Einstein – Special Relativity – Insight Into Eternity – ‘thought experiment’ video
    http://www.metacafe.com/w/6545941/

    ,,,showed that space and time were two sides of the same coin; i.e. space-time were united into one entity. And space-time is now seen to be a ‘physical’ entity (a fabric) that has real effects on material objects:

    The curvature of Space-Time – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoaOHvy5AcA

    Even light is bent by this ‘fabric’ of space-time;

    Einstein – General Relativity – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyVUbUrB2YY

    The common view now, held by the general public, is that gravity is created as mass warps the fabric of space-time, but there is now reason to believe that gravity is more properly thought of as being created as a emergent property of space-time prior to the presence of any mass:

    Evolution is a Fact, Just Like Gravity is a Fact! UhOh!
    Excerpt: The results of this paper suggest gravity arises as an entropic force, once space and time themselves have emerged.
    http://www.uncommondescent.com.....fact-uhoh/

    And there is now reason to believe that gravity does indeed arise as a entropic force once space-time itself has emerged. This is since Black Holes, the largest contributors of gravity, are also now found to be the largest contributors of entropy (randomness) in the universe:,,,

    Entropy of the Universe – Hugh Ross – May 2010
    Excerpt: Egan and Lineweaver found that supermassive black holes are the largest contributor to the observable universe’s entropy. They showed that these supermassive black holes contribute about 30 times more entropy than what the previous research teams estimated.
    http://www.reasons.org/entropy-universe

    And this ‘entropic force of gravity’ is so even though space-time is warped to the point of ‘infinite curvature’ where mass has effectively disappeared from the ‘normal’ space-time of this universe and also since the space-time equation of General Relativity breaks down at black holes:

    Space-Time of a Black hole
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0VOn9r4dq8

    Quantum Mechanics and Relativity – The Collapse Of Physics? – video – with notes as to plausible reconciliation that is missed by materialists
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/6597379/

    Moreover, the view of space-time as a static ‘fabric’, that is merely curved when mass is present, is a bit to simplistic in its view of space-time, for now for it to be even possible for time ‘travel into the future’, being inextricably wed to space in General Relativity as it currently is, we find that space must also ‘expand’ with the passing of time into the future. And indeed this common sense conclusion, for the expansion of space with the passing of time, is what we find. In fact we find the expansion of space, with the passing of time, (referred to as Dark Energy), to be the most finely tuned of all the universal constants in the universe, save for the initial entropic setting of the universe (1 in 10^120 and 1 in 10^10^123 respectfully):

    Fine Tuning Of ‘Dark Energy’ and Mass of the Universe – Hugh Ross – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4007682

    The Physics of the Small and Large: What is the Bridge Between Them? Roger Penrose
    Excerpt: “The time-asymmetry is fundamentally connected to with the Second Law of Thermodynamics: indeed, the extraordinarily special nature (to a greater precision than about 1 in 10^10^123, in terms of phase-space volume) can be identified as the “source” of the Second Law (Entropy).”
    http://www.pul.it/irafs/CD%20I.....enrose.pdf

    continued later –

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    bornagain77 says:

    But perhaps the most important insight to gained, from Einstein’s special theory of relativity, was the finding that the current space-time we live in, in this ‘material’ universe, is a ‘lower dimensional’ value of space-time. Time, as we understand it, would come to a complete stop at the speed of light. To grasp the whole ‘time coming to a complete stop at the speed of light’ concept a little more easily, imagine moving away from the face of a clock at the speed of light. Would not the hands on the clock stay stationary as we moved away from the face of the clock at the speed of light? Moving away from the face of a clock, at the speed of light, happens to be the same ‘thought experiment’ that gave Einstein his breakthrough insight into e=mc2.
    i.e. Traveling at the speed of light get us to the place where time, as we understand it, comes to complete stop for light. Yet, and this is a big yet, light is not frozen within time! Thus for us to make sense of this seeming paradox, of time as we understand it not passing for light and yet light not being ‘frozen within time, we must necessarily assume a ‘higher dimensionality’ for time at the speed of light. i.e. We must assume a eternal, ‘past and future folding into now’, framework of time. This higher dimensionality, ‘eternal’, inference for the time framework of light is strictly warranted because, as said before, light is not ‘frozen within time’ and yet it is shown that time, as we understand it, does not pass for light.

    “I’ve just developed a new theory of eternity.”
    Albert Einstein – The Einstein Factor – Reader’s Digest

    “The laws of relativity have changed timeless existence from a theological claim to a physical reality. Light, you see, is outside of time, a fact of nature proven in thousands of experiments at hundreds of universities. I don’t pretend to know how tomorrow can exist simultaneously with today and yesterday. But at the speed of light they actually and rigorously do. Time does not pass.”
    Richard Swenson – More Than Meets The Eye, Chpt. 12

    Experimental confirmation for time dilation is fairly abundant;

    Experimental confirmation of Time Dilation
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....nfirmation

    Moreover, we have ‘eye witness’ testimonies for the higher dimensional, eternal, framework of time, which was strictly warranted earlier, from Near Death Experience testimonies. Here are a few testimonies, of many that could be presented:

    In The Presence Of Almighty God – The Near Death Experience of Mickey Robinson – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4045544/

    ‘When you die, you enter eternity. It feels like you were always there, and you will always be there. You realize that existence on Earth is only just a brief instant.’
    Dr. Ken Ring – has extensively studied Near Death Experiences

    ‘Earthly time has no meaning in the spirit realm. There is no concept of before or after. Everything – past, present, future – exists simultaneously.’ – Kimberly Clark Sharp – NDE Experiencer

    ‘There is no way to tell whether minutes, hours or years go by. Existence is the only reality and it is inseparable from the eternal now.’ – John Star – NDE Experiencer

    It is also very interesting to note that we have two very, very, different qualities of ‘eternality of time’ revealed by our time dilation experiments;

    Time Dilation – General and Special Relativity – Chuck Missler – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/w/7013215/

    Time dilation
    Excerpt: Time dilation: special vs. general theories of relativity:
    In Albert Einstein’s theories of relativity, time dilation in these two circumstances can be summarized:
    1. –In special relativity (or, hypothetically far from all gravitational mass), clocks that are moving with respect to an inertial system of observation are measured to be running slower. (i.e. For any observer accelerating, hypothetically, to the speed of light, time, as we understand it, will come to a complete stop).
    2.–In general relativity, clocks at lower potentials in a gravitational field—such as in closer proximity to a planet—are found to be running slower.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation

    i.e. As with any observer accelerating to the speed of light, it is found that for any observer falling into the event horizon of a black hole, that time, as we understand it, will come to a complete stop for them. — But of particularly disturbing interest to the ‘eternal framework of time’ found at black holes;… It is interesting to note that entropic decay, which is the primary reason why things grow old and eventually die in this universe, is found to be greatest at black holes. Thus the ‘eternality of time’ at black holes can rightly be called ‘eternalities of decay and/or eternalities of destruction’.

    Roger Penrose – How Special Was The Big Bang?
    “But why was the big bang so precisely organized, whereas the big crunch (or the singularities in black holes) would be expected to be totally chaotic? It would appear that this question can be phrased in terms of the behaviour of the WEYL part of the space-time curvature at space-time singularities. What we appear to find is that there is a constraint WEYL = 0 (or something very like this) at initial space-time singularities-but not at final singularities-and this seems to be what confines the Creator’s choice to this very tiny region of phase space.”

    Needless to say the implications of this are fairly disturbing!

    But to continue on, we find that along with time ‘folding in on itself’, to become a higher dimensional ‘eternal now’ framework of time, we also find that space itself, dramatically, folds in on itself as a observer approaches the speed of light. The 3:22 minute mark of the following video shows the 3-Dimensional world ‘folding and collapsing’ into a tunnel shape, like a folding, and rolling up, sheet of paper almost, around the direction of travel, as an observer moves towards the higher dimensional speed of light, (Of note: This following video which was made by two Australian University Physics Professors with a supercomputer.)

    Traveling At The Speed Of Light – Optical Effects – video
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5733303/

    Here is the interactive website, with link to the relativistic math at the bottom of the page, related to the preceding video;

    Seeing Relativity
    http://www.anu.edu.au/Physics/Searle/

    And again this folding a collapsing of 3-Dimensional space, as the higher dimension of the speed of light is approached, is corroborated by Judeo-Christian Near Death Experience testimonies:

    The NDE and the Tunnel – Kevin Williams’ research conclusions
    Excerpt: I started to move toward the light. The way I moved, the physics, was completely different than it is here on Earth. It was something I had never felt before and never felt since. It was a whole different sensation of motion. I obviously wasn’t walking or skipping or crawling. I was not floating. I was flowing. I was flowing toward the light. I was accelerating and I knew I was accelerating, but then again, I didn’t really feel the acceleration. I just knew I was accelerating toward the light. Again, the physics was different – the physics of motion of time, space, travel. It was completely different in that tunnel, than it is here on Earth. I came out into the light and when I came out into the light, I realized that I was in heaven.(Barbara Springer)

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    bornagain77 says:

    Moreover, quantum biology has now implicated a ‘quantum soul’, which makes such a transition to a higher dimension for each of our ‘souls’, in accordance with how physical reality is structured:

    Does Quantum Biology Support A Quantum Soul? – Stuart Hameroff – video (notes in description)
    http://vimeo.com/29895068

    Quantum no-deleting theorem
    Excerpt: A stronger version of the no-cloning theorem and the no-deleting theorem provide permanence to quantum information. To create a copy one must import the information from some part of the universe and to delete a state one needs to export it to another part of the universe where it will continue to exist.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q.....onsequence

    The Unbearable Wholeness of Beings – Steve Talbott
    Excerpt: Virtually the same collection of molecules exists in the canine cells during the moments immediately before and after death. But after the fateful transition no one will any longer think of genes as being regulated, nor will anyone refer to normal or proper chromosome functioning. No molecules will be said to guide other molecules to specific targets, and no molecules will be carrying signals, which is just as well because there will be no structures recognizing signals. Code, information, and communication, in their biological sense, will have disappeared from the scientist’s vocabulary.
    http://www.thenewatlantis.com/.....-of-beings

    3D to 4D shift – Carl Sagan – video with notes
    Excerpt from Notes: The state-space of quantum mechanics is an infinite-dimensional function space. Some physical theories are also by nature high-dimensional, such as the 4-dimensional general relativity.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VS1mwEV9wA

    Music and verse:

    Johnny Cash – Ain’t No Grave
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0MIFHLIzZY

    John 11:25
    Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies;

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    Collin says:

    What has really cooked my noodle is this: “Can meaningful choices be made without time?” I mean, if we live in eternity, nothing changes, right? Or does it, somehow?

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    bornagain77 says:

    Collin, you ask:

    “Can meaningful choices be made without time?” I mean, if we live in eternity, nothing changes, right? Or does it, somehow?

    , eternity does not equal frozen in temporal time,

    ,, I believe this following video is good for explaining how choices (a extremely bad choice in this case), even if the choice was made while in a eternal time dimension, had dramatic consequences.

    If God, Why Evil? (Norman Geisler) – video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtOOPaNmJFY

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    bornagain77 says:

    On the nature of time,,, Cleaned up my previous posts, hopefully it will be much more clear to understand as well;

    On The Mystery Of Time
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FFKL3FeyebpNNyal1DQ64y20zlplVrjkaLXrM0P5ES4/edit?hl=en_US

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