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In “Darwin’s Cowards” (Evolution News & Views, May 20, 2012), David Klinghoffer shows a certain amount of impatience with Russell “Reach out to defend evolution” Garwood, (whose Nature column of that name we discussed here.) Klinghoffer notes that Darwin deserves better defenders than him and his ilk, even if he was wrong:

In Coyne and Garwood’s presentation, all criticisms of Darwinian theory are “creationism.” Any genuinely scientific alternative to Darwinism that is emphatically not creationism, such as intelligent design, they still misrepresent as “creationism.”

There is something deeply dishonest about this. Can their readers and their students really be so foolish as to fail to understand that they are being hoodwinked? Let Garwood or Coyne forthrightly acknowledge the existence of ID and confront its arguments head on, tell us why we are wrong, with all the daring they display in opposing the national biology curriculum of Pakistan. Stop beating the drum against Harun Yahya, and pick on someone capable of taking you on and replying in kind.

Tell us what you find wanting in the evidence for design on offer from Stephen Meyer, Doug Axe, Richard Sternberg, Ann Gauger, Jonathan Wells, Robert Marks, Michael Behe, and others. Stop trawling the Internet for silly stuff from Pakistan or Turkey, when you’ve got a very different and serious intellectual and scientific challenge waiting outside your front door.

There are two reasons why they don’t do that. Not only because it is a lot of work but because the work is both unnecessary and undesirable.

Unnecessary because Darwin’s current lot of lecture room bores is not asking for responsible researchers to come forward to defend his theory’s reputation against challenges in the literature. At present, it is safe for them to just go on asserting the theory monotonously and vilifying all skeptics, claiming there are no serious challenges.

Undesirable because inevitably, when a number of challenges arise – and one could mention here James Shapiro and the Altenberg 16 as well – many challenges will be difficult and they will be seen to lose. That means it is okay to bring forward evidence against Darwinism.

Really, their only defense is to pretend that all doubts about Darwin are a form of creationism.

By now everyone is on to this.

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Joe,
1- Tiktaalik doesn’t say anything about any mechanism 2- Tiktaalik was found in the wrong strata to be an intermediate- it was found after tetrapods existed. In order to be of any predictive value it has to be found before tetrapods. Otherwise it could just be a hybrid. 3- Tiktaalik doesn’t have anything to do with materialism. try again…
Tiktaalik doesn't contradict the modern evolutionary synthesis and fills in another gap. What does materialism have to do with it? It's just evidence.Jerad
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1- Tiktaalik doesn't say anything about any mechanism 2- Tiktaalik was found in the wrong strata to be an intermediate- it was found after tetrapods existed. In order to be of any predictive value it has to be found before tetrapods. Otherwise it could just be a hybrid. 3- Tiktaalik doesn't have anything to do with materialism. try again...Joe
May 21, 2012
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Joe,
BTW the case against ID would to actually step up and support materialism with real, testable evidence. Strange that not one materialist has been able to do so.
Well, a few years ago it was predicted that an intermediate form would be found in a particular deposit and Tiktaalik was found where the predictions said it would be. A hypothesis was made, checked and found out to be true.Jerad
May 21, 2012
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Jerad, I read Coyne and he cannot support the majority of the claims made by the "theory" of evolution. BTW the case against ID would to actually step up and support materialism with real, testable evidence. Strange that not one materialist has been able to do so. And yes there are criticisms of ID. Whether or not they are valid criticisms is another matter.Joe
May 21, 2012
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Forjah, I was mostly just making the point that there are criticisms of ID available with a minimal amount of work. In fact, the Wikipedia article on Specified Complexity goes through much of Dr Dembski's formulation and lists some of the technical criticisms of his work. And lists some online references of which the following is one by a former commenter on UD. http://evolutionlist.blogspot.co.uk/2006/05/genetic-id-and-explanatory-filter.html Dr Coyne has his critics across the board but he is not the only person to have criticised ID openly and at length.Jerad
May 21, 2012
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Jerad, I just finished reading, "The Case Against Intelligent Design" and I have to say, WOW this man is DESPERATE to equate ID with creationism. I admit, I used to be very religious, but now I am agnostic and I have to say this man's eagerness to misrepresent this science really makes him unreliable and I would discourage anyone from ever reading his literature. He talks about the age of the earth and transitional fossils as if it really matters all that much. Those things are both not necessarily relevant to the theory of ID. I think the best part is the lack of an objection to the very thing that ID is based on...Information! All he does is attack a, and most probably, crappy science textbook. Perhaps if he were more specific about which theory he is talking about when referring to ID, but clearly he isn't out to honestly present a refutation. That was quite obvious, he was attacking the credibility of the scientists and there religious identities. I don't think that is fair or reasonable. I mean, he tries to debunk equating evolution with atheism and then says that we shouldn't take ID seriously because all it's proponents are Christians! No they aren't Dr. Coyne, and for the same reason someone SHOULDN'T call him out for being biased towards his atheism is the same reason he shouldn't call out an IDer for being biased towards their Christianity. Let's grow up and get over it! Start dealing with the objections that matter. Opps....I guess we can't since he spent the entire paper/book doing only that. One point I thought was funny was this.."We have realized for decades that natural selection can indeed produce systems that, over time, become integrated to the point where they appear to be irreducibly complex...they evolve by adding, via natural selection, more and more parts into an originally rudimentary but functional system, with these parts sometimes co-opted from other structures. Every step of this process improves the organism's survival, and so is evolutionarily possible via natural selection." Ummm...IDers know this, it's nothing new, they are just saying it's extremely UNLIKELY that it happened this way but Dr. Coyne please now show us the evidence that irreducibly complex systems have evolved in that way. "the point is that the appearance of "irreducible complexity" cannot be an argument against neo-Darwinism if we can document a plausible sequence in which the complexity can arise from a series of adaptive steps." This is interesting use of words here... what does Coyne mean by "plausible"? And even so, I don't think this is what ID advocates say. This is not about refuting neo-Darwinism as much as it is about inference to the best explanation. Behe is trying to say that IC is best explained by intelligent causation and not natural selection. I mean in the end this article was DEAD from the beginning to me...just from the first few paragraphs I could tell that this was not going to be intellectually stimulating. Just another atheist rambling on about how stupid religious people can be. Yes, I agree, but we aren't talking about God or religious people, let's get to the science please! That is the point of this UD article. I'm glad I learned one thing about this experience, don't read Jerry Coyne's literature anymore, the man clearly has biased intentions and can not be trusted to make scientific claims in controversial subjects.ForJah
May 21, 2012
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Have you not read The Case Against Intelligent Design by Jerry Coyne? http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/coyne05/coyne05_index.html I think if you look around a bit, read their books, you will find their arguments against ID. The above is a few years old but Coyne's book Why Evolution is True is more up to date. Have you looked through his blog posts?Jerad
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