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From David Klinghoffer at Evolution News & Views:

While the Confederate cause in the Civil War has been the subject of much chatter, the modern racial right owes far more to Charles Darwin than to Robert E. Lee.

That’s a takeaway from a pre-print study, “A Psychological Profile of the Alt-Right,” by two social psychologists, Patrick S. Forscher and Nour S. Kteily of the University of Arkansas and Northwestern University respectively. Their news peg, predictably, is the 2016 presidential election.

Much of what they found is no surprise, but the frankness of their questioning about evolution is refreshing …

You won’t be startled to hear that alt-right believers were more inclined to dehumanize, in evolutionary terms, their disfavored racial and ethnic groups, rating “White people” as more “evolved” than, say, “Mexicans, Nigerians, and Blacks.” Or rather you won’t be startled if you’ve been paying attention to our reporting here on the role of evolutionary thinking among racist right-wingers. (The left has its own racialists, but that’s a different discussion.) More.

Possibly, the researchers asked frank questions because they wanted to find out what is really going on. That happens to the best of them, despite all efforts to stop it.

Some of us think that the alt right scare is way overblown. The average alt-rightist is probably an unemployable gamer Occupying his mom’s basement while seeking legal aid for charges for minor offences. He does not even have the status of a serious threat.

But he’s big in traditional media. Just imagine, a way of interesting people in their currently deficient coverage at last! But we shall see.

See also: The alt right, Donald Trump, and – oddly enough – Darwin. Anyone not committed to Darwinian survival of the fittest cannot be ‘alt right’.

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Christian racism? Election years bring dangerous creatures from the shadows

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The Jewish name for Hell is Gehenna where children were sacrificed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna Human nature hasn't changed. Abortion is child sacrifice. Kill the child else nature will be angry. The modern "free thinking" intellectual that claims to follow science and reason is merely a neo-pagan who is every bit as superstitious as his forebearers.tribune7
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My thesis: we must start any serious discussion on our future, always, from count no 1 in the indictment of our civilisation today -- we are collectively guilty (and far too often personally guilty) of enabling or even helping to carry out the worst holocaust in human history, the ongoing, generation-length slaughter of 800+ millions in the womb and continuing at another million per week, on the flimsiest of excuses in the teeth of the patent moral claims of our unborn as living posterity. I am further saying that, to cover over such horrific blood guilt we have collectively disregarded the silent elephant in the room what distorts minds, consciences, media, education, courts, laws and parliaments, cabinets and even churches through the benumbing impact of the worst mass crime in history. We are the worst generation ever, worse than the Maoists, the Bolsheviks, or the Nazis under Hitler. And yes, I just listed in descending order. To reinforce this, we have collectively ruthlessly imposed a spiral of marginalising and silencing on those who dare to point to this horror beyond imagination. Until we face this keystone horror and find forgiveness and redemption by the grace of God -- as once did an Apostle who described himself as the worst of sinners -- we cannot see, hear or think straight to deal with any issue of consequence, including the present one. For, the habitual disregard for truth in pursuit of advantage (real or perceived) that is now so massively evident in say our media and most political leaders' statements, directly traces to the same pattern of mass deceit in support of the utterly indefensible built up over these past forty years. Let us repent through genuine metanoia, that we may turn back to sanity. KFkairosfocus
September 9, 2017
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A shocking, sobering debate with Vox Day on Nazism . . . national socialism . . . and the Alt Right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roMLmYnjslckairosfocus
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Rvb8 You really have to drop the silly idea of "free" healthcare and education. In Canada we also have "free" healthcare that adds $12000 per year per family(in my case) to our already heavy tax load. Good portion if not most of the $12000 goes to inefficient super massive bureaucracy and administration system ran by always whining public sector unions. I support this system only because it's universal ie every citizen is covered, I can't imagine otherwise. You should really inform yourself about these things: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/price-of-public-health-care-insurance-2017-edition Of course you pay for ACC because corporations charge you more for their services ie pass the cost to you. I assume people who come here have some basic common sense but looks like I may be wrong.Eugen
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Eugen, apparently 78 Congressmen have already signed onto Berni Sander's, 'Medicare-for-all' Bill, and he hasn't even presented it on the floor yet. Be careful Eugen they might thrust free, quality, socialised medicine, down your throat, the communist bastards, Heh:)rvb8
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Eugen, I have free health care in NZ, as they do in Oz, the Netherlands, France, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Finland, Sweden, Scotland, England, Wales, Belgium, Japan, Singapore, and a few other. You will come back with the absurdity that thousands are dying on waiting lists for elective surgery; no they aren't! Do some reading, I know it's difficult and time consuming, but please, please, read further than Fox, and Townhall. People don't die on waiting lists. They get good FREE, efficient health care. Your silly overused nonsense, "There's no free lunch rvb8, someone has to pay for it." is quite true, someone indeed has to pay for it. Each of the countries mentioned have different taxing systems to pay for these health care plans, I don't know them all. But in NZ and Oz, we have a similar tax called the ACC tax, (Accident Care and Compensation tax). It is taxed from businesses only, the larger the business (McDonalds etc), the larger the contribution. So you are right, there is no free lunch, it is paid for, but not by NZ and Oz citizens, but by the industries and businesses of those countries. The US is incapable of someting similar?rvb8
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"Free healthcare..." There's no free lunch rvb8, someone has to pay for it.Eugen
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TWSYF @45, you know it's always a little disconcerting to me when I find myself in agreement with you. Although I think your lumping of all leftists such as myself and many others, into a grabbag known as 'Modern leftists', is inaccurate. You are right of course, 'Snowflakes', 'Antifas', and their ilk piss me off no end too. Their shear thinskins, and ability to be offended, by anything, all the time, is shameful. Almost as if they have a Constitutional right to not be offended. So, please make a distinction, which I'm sure you know exists between these children, and traditional leftists such as myself; redistribution of wealth, free health care and education, the equality of the sexes and all humanity, and freedom of thought and expression. I believe you can accept at least two of those.rvb8
September 7, 2017
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Two of my favorite MLK quotes:
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. " -- MLK in "Letter from a Birmingham Jail” "Let justice roll down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream" -- MLK quoting the Bible.
Don't see a lot of left in those two. See a lot of right though.awstar
September 7, 2017
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FYI (a little history about the ‘left’): The KKK Was the Terrorist Arm of the Democratic Party America's Real Civil Rights History The True And Detailed Racist History Of The Democrat Party Inconvenient Truth About the Democratic Party See Also: Why Did the Democratic South Become Republican? - and - Liberal FascismHeartlander
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goodusername @44 The people who were "liberal" Christians back then are now "conservative" Christians. They have not changed their values: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveda_King Regarding Frederick Douglass, yeah he sums up my thinking too: http://www.azquotes.com/author/4104-Frederick_Douglass/tag/republican-partytribune7
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GUN,
The change in the way conservative Christians view MLK over the years has been fascinating to watch, especially the last 10 years or so. Growing up, and for a long, MLK was a Commie atheist working for the USSR. Glad to see MLK has changed his life around. I guess it shows it’s never too late. ;-)
It seems Frederick Douglass is also doing a great job these days.daveS
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Groovamaos @ 41: "If it does, does your commitment to “minorities” then extend at that time to so-called “whites”?" I doubt it. Modern leftists generally hate white people, except, of course, the self-flagellating type of white people. This is extremely unfortunate because we will never cure racism with more racism. "You know darned well that it won’t – which makes you guys essentially racist." Drop the word "essentially."Truth Will Set You Free
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The change in the way conservative Christians view MLK over the years has been fascinating to watch, especially the last 10 years or so. Growing up, and for a long, MLK was a Commie atheist working for the USSR. Glad to see MLK has changed his life around. I guess it shows it's never too late. ;-)goodusername
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rvb8 @ 40--the Christianity of M.King was dubious at best, and his rollocking lifestyle points to that loose Christianity.-- The philosophical underpinnings of Rev. King are beyond doubt. It is entirely God and Country (i.e. conservative) http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm No mention of labor or union-backed politicians like Bull Connor and Richard Russell. Would you call John Geoghan, Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Bakker Christians? Or Connor or Russell for that matter. I suspect they professed a belief in Christ.tribune7
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rvb8 @ 40: MLK, Jr. was a sinner...just like you. And he would likely reject your leftist ideology, certainly most it.Truth Will Set You Free
September 7, 2017
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rvb: The left also is traditionally the supporter of minority causes.... The sheer loonacy displyed in these posts is truly mind boggling, a complete ignorance, and flipping of world history. The sheer bluster of you sir, is evidence of your deepening frustration because it is you who can't get enough of this blog in spite of your feigned ridicule of some "loonacy". Proof: you can't just simply disappear and spend your online time with people you really like. You're always back here for more. And you know let's get real. Your leftist political fetish is a religion pure and simple. Same with this "minorities" fetish. In your mind, Mexicans in Mexico are probably "minorities". This, as I have seen more than one leftist slip up and label darker skinned people the world over as "minorities" when they are the planetary majority, and European light skinned peoples are the planetary minority. Do these lightly colored people get the revered treatment of a "minority" in your religion, being as they are the worldwide minority? Of course not, consistency of thinking is not a hallmark of the progressive leftist religion. In addition, another goal of the leftist religion is to ensure European blooded peoples the world over are minorities in every country. And it may happen, due to suicidal leftist control of Western cultural institutions. If it does, does your commitment to "minorities" then extend at that time to so-called "whites"? You know darned well that it won't - which makes you guys essentially racist.groovamos
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tribune7, the Christianity of M.King was dubious at best, and his rollocking lifestyle points to that loose Christianity. Does this make him less of a hero? Not to me, it humanizes him, and tells me great men are also flawed. It was the unions, and left leaning politicians that were King's other foundations. Do you not know this?:)rvb8
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The book “Until the Final Hour” (subtitled “Hitler’s Last Secretary”), is mainly based on Traudl Junge’s personal stories, written soon after the end of WW2. The book was edited by Melissa Muller for the German edition of the book and translated by Anthea Bell for the first US edition in 2004. The second paragraph on page 108 reads: Sometimes we also had interesting discussions about the church and the development of the human race. Perhaps it’s going too far to call them discussions, because he [Hitler] would begin explaining his ideas when some question or remark from one of us had set them off, and we just listened. He was not a member of any church, and thought the Christian religions were outdated, hypocritical institutions that lured people into them. The laws of nature were his religion. He could reconcile his dogma of violence better with nature than with the Christian doctrine of loving your neighbor and your enemy. ‘Science isn’t yet clear about the origins of humanity,’ he once said. ‘We are probably the highest stage of development of some mammal which developed from reptiles and moved on to human beings, perhaps by way of the apes. We are a part of creation and children of nature, and the same laws apply to us as to all living creatures. And in nature the law of the struggle for survival has reigned from the first. Everything incapable of life, everything weak is eliminated. Only mankind and above all the church have made it their aim to keep alive the weak, those unfit to live, and people of an inferior kind.’Dionisio
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I certainly hope KF is OK, but he hasn't posted in 24 hours and his home was ground zero. Martin Luther King Jr.'s entire movement was founded on Christianity with the Declaration of Independence mixed in. How can you not know this?tribune7
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To everyone, kairos is fine, look at his posts, they are the usual monumental efforts. The level of historical ignorance betrayed by this NEWS contribution, and the subsequent posts supporting the view that an acceptance of evolution is a prerequisite for alt-right membership is astounding. It is the left that believes government has a crucial role in society, and yes, taxation, and redistribution of wealth are key components of that. The left also is traditionally the supporter of minority causes, and workers; King's marches had large numbers of union members. It is the right that traditionally supports tradition; God, King, and Country etc. Or, translated for the USA, Christianity, Race and Space. How can you not know this? How is it possible for you to grow up believing Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, and their ilk had anything to do with imigration, worker's rights, equitable economics? The sheer loonacy displyed in these posts is truly mind boggling, a complete ignorance, and flipping of world history.rvb8
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john_a_designer @19, Interesting comment.Dionisio
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News @16, Insightful commentary. Thanks.Dionisio
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awstar @15, Interesting quote.Dionisio
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KF @26, Timely reminder for all to analyze seriously before it's too late. Thank you.Dionisio
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Heartlander @13, Interesting comment.Dionisio
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kairosfocus? Barry and I have been trying to reach you re are you okay. If this is the first you read of it, please send message if possible. 5 hrs ago: The category five hurricane, the highest possible level, has sustained wind speeds reaching 300km/h (185mph). There are hurricane warnings for: Antigua, Barbuda, Anguilla, Montserrat, St Kitts and Nevis ... more http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-41168117News
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KF @5-10, Excellent presentation of history. Thanks.Dionisio
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Commencement Address Delivered At Harvard University, June 8, 1978 Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn
[...] the Western system in its present state of spiritual exhaustion does not look attractive.
Dionisio
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“Godlessness: the First Step to the Gulag” Alexander Solzhenitsyn Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion, May of 1983
More than half a century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of older people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened. Since then I have spent well-nigh fifty years working on the history of our Revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous Revolution that swallowed up some sixty million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened. What is more, the events of the Russian Revolution can only be understood now, at the end of the century, against the background of what has since occurred in the rest of the world. What emerges here is a process of universal significance. And if I were called upon to identify briefly the principal trait of the entire twentieth century, here too, I would be unable to find anything more precise and pithy than to repeat once again: Men have forgotten God.
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