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Well, that’s how The Scientist describes it:

How one generation’s experience can affect the next

Caution! The article begins by denouncing the crackpot theories of Lysenko along these lines, and piously informs us that “science” has since discovered that there is something in epigenetics after all.

Any history that leaves out the ridicule to which Lamarck was routinely subjected, without justification, by Darwin’s followers is revisionism, pure and simple.

But then, the people responsible have some butt to cover, right?

Meanwhile,

Not only is epigenetic information inherited during cellular division, but it can also be passed from one generation to the next in multicellular organisms, a phenomenon known as transgenerational epigenetics. This requires that epigenetic information be carried in the gametes—sperm and eggs—and be maintained throughout the dramatic changes that occur during gamete production, fertilization, and early development. While researchers once considered this unlikely, recent studies have begun to demonstrate that parents can and do pass on epigenetic information to their children.

Okay, Lamarck was right. And reading the brief, potted history, evidence that supported him began to be available in the 1950s.

Spin continues:

This idea, often referred to as the inheritance of acquired characters, was one aspect of Jean-Baptiste Lamarck’s early evolutionary theories. But the current use of “Lamarckian inheritance” to refer to transgenerational epigenetic inheritance is something of a misnomer. In fact, the inheritance of acquired characters was hardly the defining feature of Lamarck’s beliefs. His evolutionary theory did not include the basic concept of natural selection, and did not have a place for phenotypic variation existing prior to environmental challenges. Moreover, both Darwin and Lamarck believed that traits acquired in one’s lifetime could be passed on. Famously, Darwin even developed a model of inheritance that invoked “gemmules,” which carried information from all parts of the body to alter the characteristics of the next generation.

Not a misnomer. Lamarck was right.

It’s not clear that natural selection is anything other than Darwin’s tautology, under the circumstances. The survivors survive.

And yes, Darwin personally grew favourable over time to Lamarck’s ideas, but his followers did not.

But its father’s diet is not the only environmental factor that can affect the biology of a rodent: stress experienced by fathers can also negatively impact future offspring. A number of studies from Tracy Bale’s lab at the University of Pennsylvania have shown that prospective mouse fathers subjected to stressful environments, such as separation from their mothers at a young age, have offspring that exhibit altered cortisol release in response to stress.8 Similarly, Mount Sinai neurobiologist Eric Nestler and his colleagues have shown that male mice subjected to social defeat sire offspring with altered anxiety- and depression-related behaviors, such as decreased time spent in exposed areas. More.

In short, Lamarck was right, as regards his most important (rejected) idea, inheritance of acquired characteristics. Recipe for further success faster: Quit listening to the Darwin lobby and stuff the revisionism about what really happened on their watch. And get on with actual science.

See also: Epigenetic change: Lamarck, wake up, you’re wanted in the conference room!

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Vy, I have read your posts. Such as your response to Darwin being described as a careful scientific observer, where you respond that "Charles Darwin the Darwinist didn’t even get his finches right" - yes, it took a world class ornithologist with time to study and carefully dissect them to discern that some of the birds were finches. Also, the knowledge we have about the finches - the number of species, their feeding habits, the relationship between their beaks and diet, etc, took many years - decades - of study by teams of ornithologists spending long periods there specifically to study the finch. Darwin was there for a relatively short period, landing at only a few spots of the many islands, busily trying to collect samples of the THOUSANDS of species before having to leave. And the finches didn't particularly grab his attention - he was much more interested in the mockingbirds, turtles, plants, etc. And you think he wasn't a careful observer cause he didn't get the "finches right"? Go ahead if you makes you feel better, but it makes you look silly. For the record, his peers back home were awestruck as the job he did aboard the Beagle. He became well known among the scientific leaders in Great Britain and was roundly praised. Adam Sedgwick said, “if God spares his life he will have a great name among the naturalists of Europe.” And William Whewell declared that we have “reason to rejoice that this lot fell to a gentleman like Mr. Darwin, who possessed the genuine spirit and zeal, as well as the knowledge of a naturalist; who had pursued the studies which fitted him for this employment.” And as a result of his work aboard the Beagle he was invited to become Secretary of the Geological Society, and was elected into the Royal Zoological Society. But, yeah, real sloppy work. And yes, I read what you typed about Erasmus and read the links you provided. Where do you see Darwinism in the writings of Erasmus? All you've provided evidence for is that he's an evolutionist - which everyone already knows.goodusername
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He wasn’t “careful” for not recognizing that many of the birds he collected were finches? You’re just being silly.
Take your time, now go and read my post before posting nonsense.
Where in the writings of Erasmus do you see any Darwinism?
Do you have reading comprehension issues? Read the post!Vy
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Vy,
Thank you for illustrating my point. Darwin was neither careful nor a scientist (at least not in the light you portray him to be).
Huh? He wasn't "careful" for not recognizing that many of the birds he collected were finches? You're just being silly. No one suspected that they were finches until Britain's leading ornithologist studied and dissected them. The mockingbirds of the Galapagos were perhaps what got Darwin thinking about evolution. He noted that the various mockingbirds on each island seemed to be closely related species or variations and wondered if they had a common ancestor. He was perhaps wondering how far such variations could go when he was hit with the bombshell regarding the finches.
This is false as Darwinian evolution wasn’t Charles’s idea:
Where in the writings of Erasmus do you see any Darwinism?goodusername
December 9, 2015
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Without the Theory of Evolution, Darwin was one of the greatest empirical scientists of his age
This is false as Darwinian evolution wasn't Charles's idea:
This article examines the influence of Erasmus Darwin on Charles's evolutionary thought and shows how, in many ways, Erasmus anticipated his much better-known grandson. It discusses the similarity in the mindsets of the two Darwins, asks how far the younger Darwin was exposed to the elder's evolutionary thought, examines the similarities and differences in their theories of evolution, and ends by showing the surprising similarity between their theories of inheritance. Erasmus's influence on Charles is greater than customarily acknowledged, and now is an opportune time to bring the grandfather out from behind the glare of his stellar grandson
And it's existence wasn't dependent on him, enter Alfred Wallace. Without ToE, Darwin would be the greatest Sharwin of all time, practically nonexistent. Even more in favor of this is the fact that (as I said earlier), Darwin's mythological work encompassed many regurgitations of his granfather's babble:
One of Charles’s chief arguments for evolution is based on the shape of the beaks of finches in response to the types of food available that he saw in the Galápagos Islands in 1835. Is it credible to think that he had not been influenced by what Erasmus had written on the subject? Namely: ‘Some birds have acquired harder beaks to crack nuts, as the parrot. Others have acquired beaks adapted to break the harder seeds, as sparrows. Others for the softer seeds of flowers, or the buds of trees, as the finches. Other birds have acquired long beaks … and others broad ones … . All … gradually produced during many generations by the perpetual endeavour of the creatures to supply the want of food (I:504).’ Almost every topic discussed, and example given, in Zoonomia reappears in Charles’s Origin. In fact, all but one of Charles’s books have their counterpart in a chapter of Zoonomia or an essay-note to one of Erasmus’s poems. And Charles’s own copies of Zoonomia and The Botanic Garden are extensively marked and annotated.
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Darwin published in the most prestigious British journals
Care to mention a few?
and was well-respected by his peers
'Cause he was. The Brits and the French (initially) were mighty uninterested though.Vy
December 9, 2015
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Your entire argument seems to hinge on ...
And your confusion between what's an example that contradicts your claim and the "only" argument is not my problem.
That some species were difficult to identify as finches is actually evidence in favor of evolution.
Thank you for illustrating my point. Darwin was neither careful nor a scientist (at least not in the light you portray him to be). And a Darwinist baselessly claiming x is evidence for evodelusion is as sensible as saying poop is evidence for evodelusion, useless, and in this case, it is just as false (read my post before you make silly responses).
Darwin’s most popular book wasn’t even Origin of Species, but The Formation of Vegetable Mould through the Action of Worms.
LOL. *facepalm*Vy
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Only to feeble minded wil Darwin ever be considered a scientist of the first rank.
That's what his scientific peers thought of him. He was a member of the most prestigious scientific organization, the Royal Society, and was awarded their most prestigious award - the Royal Medal - in 1853 for his work in geology and on barnacles. Not to mention he was perhaps the top botanist of his time.goodusername
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Darwin never understood that the combinatorial explosion kills his little conjecture dead before it was born. Compared to real thinkers like Newton, Leibniz, Descartes, Planck and others, Darwin was a mental midget.Mapou
December 9, 2015
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Andre: OK I’ll give it to you he was a crappy biologist. Darwin published in the most prestigious British journals, and was well-respected by his peers. Darwin's eight year study of barnacles is considered a classic in the field. His work with phototropism in plants seems pretty interesting. His insights into fertilisation of orchids is especially keen. And The Formation of Vegetable Mould Through the Action of Worms With Observation of Their Habits transformed gardening.Zachriel
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OK I'll give it to you he was a crappy biologist. Happy?Andre
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Andre: you are right of course he was not an ornithologist he was also not a biologist then. Even a cursory look at his curriculum vitae offers clear contradiction to your statement.Zachriel
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Zahriel you are right of course he was not an ornithologist he was also not a biologist then.Andre
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Vy: You’re kiddi…er Your entire argument seems to hinge on Darwin's misidentification of Galápagos finches. Darwin wasn't an ornithologist, which is why he brought specimens back to Britain for expert analysis by the famous ornithologist, John Gould, who found "a series of ground Finches which are so peculiar", they formed "an entirely new group, containing 12 species". That some species were difficult to identify as finches is actually evidence in favor of evolution.
Z: Darwin made an historic circumnavigation of the Earth collecting evidence nearly thirty years before he published Origin of Species — one of the greatest scientific adventures of all times! Then he spent years collecting and publishing additional evidence to support and develop his nascent theory, long before he was willing to put the theory before his peers. Darwin’s incremental approach allowed him to build and refine his argument, on a solid evidentiary basis. Darwin’s intensive, multi-year study of barnacles was sufficient to establish his reputation among scientists, while his study of earthworms was sufficient to establish his public reputation; and the sheer volume of his scientific studies, including observations of moths, orchids, bees, beetles, coral reefs, as well as related studies of geology, made him one of the most important scientists of his age even without including Origin of Species. Here is a list of Darwin’s primary scientific output:
* The zoology of the voyage of H.M.S. Beagle * Natural history and geology of the countries visited during the voyage of H.M.S. Beagle * The Breeding of Animals * The structure and distribution of coral reefs. * Fertilisation of British orchids by insect agency * On the agency of bees in the fertilisation of papilionaceous flowers * Phototropism in plants As well as published observations on living and fossil Cirripedia, animal intelligence, insectivorous plants; cross breeding hybrid dianths; the effects of cross and self fertilisation in the vegetable kingdom; the different forms of flowers on plants of the same species; the effect of seawater on seeds; mouse-coloured breed of ponies; bees and the fertilisation of kidney beans; cross-breeds of strawberries; flowers and their unbidden guests; the power of movement in plants; the formation of vegetable mould, through the action of worms; nectar-secreting organs of plants, Rhea americana, Chiasognathus Grantii, Carabus, Geospiza, Camarhynchus, Cactornis and Certhidea, Sagitta, planaria; Lizard’s eggs; observations of proofs of recent elevation on the coast of Chili; the geology of the Falkland Islands; on certain areas of elevation and subsidence in the Pacific and Indian oceans, as deduced from the study of coral formations; on the connexion of certain volcanic phenomena, and on the formation of mountain-chains and volcanoes, as the effects of continental elevations; vincas, frogs, rates, geese, butterflies, teasel, ants, holly berries and their bees, primrose, black sheep, mosquitoes, cherry blossoms, gladioli, penguin ducks, fumariaceae, influence of pollen on the appearance of seed, etc.
Darwin's most popular book wasn't even Origin of Species, but The Formation of Vegetable Mould through the Action of Worms. Without the Theory of Evolution, Darwin was one of the greatest empirical scientists of his age. With the Theory of Evolution, he revolutionized biology, a revolution which is still spawning entire new areas of research today. http://darwin-online.org.uk/
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Zachriel Only to feeble minded wil Darwin ever be considered a scientist of the first rank.Andre
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Darwin was a scientist of the first rank, even before publishing his theory of evolution.
LOL. Straight up blinding fanboyism, or fan-legion/them-ism. It's nice to see what passes for "scientist" in your brain.Vy
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Darwin was a scientist of the first rank
Darwin was superstitious dirt worshipper. :-DMapou
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Andre: Darwin was an angry old coot Darwin was a scientist of the first rank, even before publishing his theory of evolution.Zachriel
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Darwin was a careful scientific observer, and his scientific work encompassed many areas of biology.
You're kiddi...er, I just remembered that's standard Zachriel. The only thing that matches your incredulous description exists only in your jumbled brain reactions, certainly not Darwin The Theologian. Charles Darwin the Darwinist didn't even get his finches right:
In fact, Darwin didn't come up with these ideas about finches. Far from identifying 14 species of finches, Harvard Darwin historian Frank J. Sulloway explains how badly Darwin botched his analysis of these birds:
Just how greatly Darwin was misled by certain of the Galapagos finches is poignantly illustrated by his misclassification of the warbler finch as a "wren," or warbler. As for the remarkable woodpecker finch, thought by many to have stimulated Darwin's greatest evolutionary curiosity, this species was not even collected by Darwin; and its unusual tool-using behavior was not reported until 1919. Darwin collected, in fact, only nine of the present thirteen species of "Darwin's finches." Of these, he properly identified as finches only six species - less than half the present total - placing them in two separate groups, large- and small-beaked Fringillidae.
And what about the claim that Darwin studied differences in finch beaks to determine that they evolved their differences to become "adapted to a particular diet?" Here, Sulloway says:
To establish a presumption that his Galapagos finches had indeed evolved such divergent forms through adaptive radiation, it was first necessary to show that the different shapes of their beaks were in some way effective in reducing competition. But Darwin lacked precisely this information. According to his own testimony, the several species of Geospiza were "indistinguishable from each other in their habits," feeding together on the ground in large irregular flocks. These observations were not only incomplete but also incorrect. ... Darwin failed to correlate feeding habits in the Galapagos finches with their diverse beaks, and partly for this reason most subsequent ornithologists thought that there was no relationship.
Darwin was far from "careful" (seriously, how could an idea that rivals Norse Mythology be derived from carefulness???) much less "scientific". His mythological work encompassed many regurgitations of his grandfather's babble with a severe misunderstanding of God and the Bible.Vy
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Croteau the Troll:
Darwin was a careful scientific observer
Darwin was a mental midget, a moron. :-DMapou
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Zahriel Darwin was an angry old coot upset with God at the death of his daughter. And he was a plagiarist to boot.Andre
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News: Okay, Lamarck was right. It's not clear that epigenetic changes become a permanent part of the inheritance of an organism. However, it can provide a "look ahead", and so can be preferentially incorporated into the genome over time, similar to how mutations during protein synthesis can provide a "look ahead" and be preferentially incorporated. Andre: Wow Darwin just about predicted everything according to some people Darwin was a careful scientific observer, and his scientific work encompassed many areas of biology.Zachriel
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Wow Darwin just about predicted everything according to some people...Andre
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Wow. RDFish was right. There really are little spirits moving things around!Mung
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Yes, Alicia Cartelli, YOU are a perfect example of how impervious someone’s mind can be to information. Nice own goalVirgil Cain
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"Okay, Lamarck was right." -"...the inheritance of acquired characters was hardly the defining feature of Lamarck’s beliefs. His evolutionary theory did not include the basic concept of natural selection, and did not have a place for phenotypic variation existing prior to environmental challenges." "Not a misnomer. Lamarck was right." -"Famously, Darwin even developed a model of inheritance that invoked “gemmules,” which carried information from all parts of the body to alter the characteristics of the next generation." -"In short, Lamarck was right" Notice how impervious someone's mind can be to information. Or maybe it's just a complete lack of reading comprehension.Alicia Cartelli
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Which other mechanisms weren't involved in evolution? Is there a scientific litmus test which one can use to verify and establish it???Enezio E. De Almeida Filho
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Mapou,
There is no point in you arguing that the Darwinist method of survival and adaptation is not RM+NS as Darwinists have preached for ages. There is no room in Darwinism for non-stochastic adaptive mechanisms, which is what Lamarckism/epigenetics amount to.
You're right, there would be no point in me arguing such a thing, and I wouldn't. I'm arguing that Darwin believed that there were other mechanisms other than RM+NS (i.e. other mechanisms than Darwinism) involved in evolution; including the inheritance of acquired characteristics.goodusername
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goodusername, There is no point in you arguing that the Darwinist method of survival and adaptation is not RM+NS as Darwinists have preached for ages. There is no room in Darwinism for non-stochastic adaptive mechanisms, which is what Lamarckism/epigenetics amount to. Soon you people will be screaming that you knew it all along and that Darwin invented ID. Sheesh.Mapou
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News,
Any history that leaves out the ridicule to which Lamarck was routinely subjected, without jutification, by Darwin’s followers is revisionism, pure and simple.
Any history that leaves out Creationists and ID proponents ridiculing Darwin for his support of inheritance of acquired characteristics is also revisionism. ( Here’s an article on discovery.org – from 2013 – saying that if not for Darwin that “Lamarckianism would likely have died a quicker and more merciful death.”)
Not a misnomer. Lamarck was right.
If it’s not a misnomer than Darwin was a Lamarckist. But there’s a reason he was never known as such.
It’s not clear that natural selection is anything other than Darwin’s tautology, under the circumstances. The survivors survive.
Is “artificial selection” a tautology also?
And yes, Darwin personally grew favourable over time to Lamarck’s ideas, but his followers did not.
Over time? Support for the inheritance of acquired characteristics is right there in the first edition of Origin.goodusername
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It pips up because science advances one funeral at a time.Andre
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While researchers once considered this unlikely, recent studies have begun to demonstrate that...
That kind of sentence seems to pop up frequently in biology articles these days. Any idea why?Dionisio
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