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Judge Jones Top Ten List

William Dembski
September 9, 2006
Evolution, Intelligent Design
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Here are some of my favorite quotes from Judge Jones regarding the Dover trial (page numbers are from his Dover decision). In the next few weeks I expect they will be put to good use for the public’s general amusement. Stay tuned.

CAPTION: Praise Darwin Or Else…
QUOTE: “We will enter an order permanently enjoining Defendants from … requiring teachers to denigrate or disparage the scientific theory of evolution.” (p. 138)

CAPTION: Where’s The Peer Review?
QUOTE: “Intelligent design is not supported by any peer-reviewed research, data or publications.” (p. 87)

CAPTION: Nobody Better Than Me
QUOTE: “No other tribunal in the United States is in a better position than are we to traipse into this controversial area [of intelligent design].” (p. 64)

CAPTION: Judge Jones — The Tenth Justice
QUOTE: “We will offer our conclusion on whether intelligent design is science … in the hope that it may prevent the obvious waste of judicial and other resources which would be occasioned by a subsequent trial involving the precise question which is before us.” (pp. 64-65)

CAPTION: Your Religious Beliefs About Evolution Are Utterly False
QUOTE: “Both Defendants and many of the leading proponents of intelligent design make a bedrock assumption which is utterly false. Their presupposition is that evolutionary theory is antithetical to a belief in the existence of a supreme being and to religion in general.” (p. 136)

CAPTION: Nothing To Worry About Here
QUOTE: “Repeatedly in this trial, Plaintiffs’ scientific experts testified that the theory of evolution . . . in no way conflicts with, nor does it deny, the existence of a divine creator.” (p. 136)

CAPTION: Stop The Inanity
QUOTE: “The breathtaking inanity of the Board’s decision is evident when considered against the factual backdrop which has now been fully revealed through this trial.” (p. 138)

CAPTION: Scandalous
QUOTE: “It is notable that both Professors Behe and Minnich admitted their personal view is that the designer is God.” (p. 25)

CAPTION: The Religion Of The Founders
QUOTE: “The Founders believed that true religion was not something handed down by a church or contained in a Bible, but was to be found through free, rational inquiry. . . . As I hope that you can see, these precepts and beliefs . . . guide me each day as a federal trial judge.” (http://www.dickinson.edu/commencement/2006/address.html)

CAPTION: The Discovery Institute And Its Evil Wedge Strategy
QUOTE: “A careful review of the Wedge Document’s goals and language throughout the document reveals cultural and religious goals, as opposed to scientific ones.” (p. 29)

Comments
"It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible...." and so on. The above quote, attributed to Washington, is, in fact, not his. Ive heard it used many times in debate before - I dont know who came up with it, but it wasn't Washington. My usual source for this is http://www.religioustolerance.org/badquotes.htm - if you object to what may be considered a biased source, they do provide references, or you may perform your own research. I know im on the blacklist as an anti-ID poster, so I request leniency from the moderator in light of the fact that I am expressing here only a factual correction, and have attributed a source, which in turn attributes sufficient sources for others to easily verify my claim.SuricouRaven
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"The courtroom is not designed for finding the truth of science" from "Inference in DNA Forensic Identification" Kathryn Roeder Professor of Statistics Carnegie Mellon University http://progressive.playstream.com/nas/progressive/2006am-forensic-roeder/Roeder.htmlidnet.com.au
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Here are some more: CAPTION: An activist judge? Who? Me? QUOTE: "Those who disagree with our holding will likely mark it as the product of an activist judge. If so, they will have erred as this is manifestly not an activist court." (page 137) CAPTION: I am all-wise and all-knowing QUOTE: "ID's backers have sought to a avoid the scientific scrutiny which we have now determined that it cannot withstand by advocating that the controversy, but not ID itself, should be taught in science class. . . . . . It is our view that a reasonable, objective observer would, after reviewing both the voluminous record in this case, and our narrative, reach the inescapable conclusion that ID is an interesting theological argument, but that it is not science."(page 89) I would change the caption for the following quote: CAPTION: I just hate organized religion QUOTE: “The Founders believed that true religion was not something handed down by a church or contained in a Bible, but was to be found through free, rational inquiry." -- from Jones' commencement speech at Dickinson CollegeLarry Fafarman
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From the Judge's Dickinson College Commencement speech linked above: "...Remember that Thomas Jefferson, throughout his life, accumulated a library of almost ten thousand books. George Washington died with nearly a thousand volumes in his collection. These gentlemen read voraciously, including daily newspapers and periodicals. Now, I don't mean to compare myself with either of these men, but at age fifty my night stand is stacked with books on many subjects, I read several newspapers each day, and numerous magazines each week. And just like you, I also consume information and news on-line..." No one can claim Judge Jones suffers from low self-esteem!russ
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“The Founders believed that true religion was not something handed down by a church or contained in a Bible, but was to be found through free, rational inquiry. . . . As I hope that you can see, these precepts and beliefs . . . guide me each day as a federal trial judge.” - Judge Jones “ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.” - John Adams, Founder & second president of the United States "I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man." - Alexander Hamilton, Founder & First U.S. Secretary of the Treasury There are a lot more quotes like these by Founders of the U.S. that anyone can Google so I won't fill up this page.russ
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“The Founders believed that true religion was not something handed down by a church or contained in a Bible, but was to be found through free, rational inquiry. . . . As I hope that you can see, these precepts and beliefs . . . guide me each day as a federal trial judge.” - Judge Jones "It is impossible to govern the world without God and the Bible. Of all the dispositions and habits that lead to political prosperity, our religion and morality are the indispensable supporters. Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that our national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle." - George Washington (Founder)russ
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