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Survival of the Rarest?

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Researchers have discovered that in certain competitive situations, the “fittest” phenotype is the one that is “rarest” for a given population. In a study of fruit flies, when “rovers” and “sitters” were foraging together, “rovers” did better if they were surrounded by “sitters”, and vice versa. As the author of the study put it: “If you’re a rover surrounded by many sitters, then the sitters are going to use up that patch and you’re going to do better by moving out into a new patch. So you’ll have an advantage because you’re not competing with the sitters who stay close to the initial resource. On the other hand, if you’re a sitter and you’re mostly with rovers, the rovers are going to move out and you’ll be left on the patch to feed without competition.”

She also said: “There’s considerable genetic variation in nature and we haven’t been able to explain why it persists, since natural selection ensures that only the best survive.” So, which is the best, the “rover” or the “sitter”? Well, as Mark Fitzpatrick, a doctoral student involved in the study, states: “In the case of fruit flies, one variant encourages the survival of the other. In essence, there is not one best type of fly.”

I know there are population geneticists out there, so, if you can, how would you explain NS being able to virtually decide that it is “best” to conserve both forms, rather than to single out one of the two forms? Or, does this mean that there really is no such thing as “fixation” and “extinction”, thus rendering neo-Darwinism null and void?

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Bob: "PaV - I’m afraid your questions show that you haven’t understood evolution. It’s basic that evolution isn’t teleological, so it doesn’t “decide” that it is best to conserve diversity." You'll notice that I wrote "virtually decide". Nonetheless, what we see is the appearance of some "decision" on the part of NS in this case since standard theory would say that either form A, or form B---either the "rover" or the "sitter"---is the fittest, and then choose for one or the other, while here NS seems comfortable with two forms. So NS seems to have "decided" that in this case, it's not going to follow standard procedures. You've given this phenomena a name, and in the article they call it "negative frequency-dependent selection". But giving something a name doesn't mean you've explained the phenomena; nor does it mean that the phenomena fits into standard population genetics. Again, I would appreciate some attempt at explaining why we find this phenomena in nature. Can you supply it?PaV
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Actually, it's not basic that evolution isn't teleological - it's basic that any question of teleology with regards to the natural world is a philosophical question (Unless, of course, ID scientists are correct). Declaring it (or parts of it) to be obviously devoid of teleology would be tantamount to saying you have a mechanism for discerning design, which.. well, connect the dots.nullasalus
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PaV - I'm afraid your questions show that you haven't understood evolution. It's basic that evolution isn't teleological, so it doesn't "decide" that it is best to conserve diversity. It's just that, in this case, the population will evolve to a state with more than one phenotype. So your question is moot. What's being described is called frequency dependent selection, and is well known in population genetics. It's also not universal: there are some traits that are under frequency dependent selection (the sex ratio is one), but not all traits (and probably only a minority). Hence, your second question is also moot. BobBob O'H
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