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Wired.com has a new article about why ID isn’t science because it’s been falsified. Usually the tactic against ID is that it isn’t a science because it isn’t falsifiable. I reckon use whatever club is closest at hand when you’re interested only in beating ID instead of being consistent. The article states:

“You look at cellular machines and say, why on earth would biology do anything like this? It’s too bizarre,” he said. “But when you think about it in a neutral evolutionary fashion, in which these machineries emerge before there’s a need for them, then it makes sense.”

“In which these machineries emerge before there’s a need” for the machineries. I don’t see how that makes any sense. Evolution is supposed to be a stepwise mechanism of solving problems, now they get solved before there is a problem. The article basically makes the assertion that if parts of a whole mechanism are found somewhere else, operating or not operating in any other capacity whatsoever, then the whole mechanism in question is explained by virtue of finding some component parts. If I found an engine foreign to me, I would not be overjoyed to explain it, as a whole, by finding bolts and cylinders and iron lying about, and noticing that the engine uses all three. My first inclination would not be “It was simply a matter of time before they came together into a more complex entity.” But that is exactly the argument being made:

But new research comparing mitochondria, which provide energy to animal cells, with their bacterial relatives, shows that the necessary pieces for one particular cellular machine — exactly the sort of structure that’s supposed to prove intelligent design — were lying around long ago. It was simply a matter of time before they came together into a more complex entity.

The pieces “were involved in some other, different function. They were recruited and acquired a new function…”

It was just a matter of time before they came together into more complexity? Really? That’s a belief system showing it’s cards. And how this follows, without seeing the “coming together” itself, is fanciful, to use a kind word.

According to evolutionary theory, however, cellular complexity is reducible. It requires only that existing components be repurposed, with inevitable mutations providing extra ingredients as needed.

Repurposed, recruited, with a dash of mutation for the bread to rise. Did we witness this recruitment, or must it be so for an evolutionary explanation? It must be so, and it has not been witnessed. And what was the purpose before that purpose? Do you have an infinite regress of purposes and recruitments until you get to single molecules that had no purpose? It seems so:

The process by which parts accumulate until they’re ready to snap together is called preadaptation. It’s a form of “neutral evolution,” in which the buildup of the parts provides no immediate advantage or disadvantage. Neutral evolution falls outside the descriptions of Charles Darwin. But once the pieces gather, mutation and natural selection can take care of the rest, ultimately resulting in the now-complex form of TIM23.

How does one even begin to sort through the assumptions? That peices gather together somehow, none falling off the wagon, snap together, fit, that somehow even if they did gather together it wouldn’t be a total wreckage, but rather become a cohesive and intricately connected and symbiotic whole beginning to operate as a machine at 3:00 pm on a Thursday, with mutation and natural selection thrown in to supervise the whole endeavor and “take care of the rest”, whatever that means.

Well, you get the idea. And it is an idea, if nothing else. Not an evidentially discerned causal explanation, only, rather, the only possible explanation that a Darwinist has. Find the parts, add natural selection and mutation, and you get the whole. What about actual observation, you ask? Apparently, not necessary, because we are, after all, only trying to satisfy a philosophical presupposition of explanation that must turn from simple to complex, and finding some scattered parts is good enough. Actually seeing the increase in the complexity is not necessary for this kind of “science.”

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Only a cultist can hold a dogma that allows something unfalsifiable to be falsified.tribune7
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Darwin’s thoughts, in large part, are vestigial organs in the modern evolutionary beast.
Have you read "the origin"?
The fact is that, whatever one may think of ID, biology has turned out to be a very different beast from what Darwin expected at the time.
And what was that? What did Darwin expect "biology" to turn out to be?
First of all – as Dembski himself said recently on this site – ID is compatible with evolution. By my understanding, what it really isn’t compatible with is Darwinism – and even there, particularly the superfluous-to-science metaphysical components of “Darwinism”.
Can you give me an example of something specific that ID is not compatible with other then "Darwinism" in general? And an example of a superfluous-to-science metaphysical component of said "Darwinism" would be great too. Just so I understand where you are coming from on this, of course.
Evolution-style programs are used by designers after all.
So you worship a programmer? How uber:geeky!Blue Lotus
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In the spirit of "real science", Atom, could I ask you to settle something as something of an authority on the subject, having written the programs in question. There's been a bit of a back and forth lately on Weasel. Kariosfocus believes (paraphrasing, you can read the thread of course) that Dawkins weasel and Dembski/Marks "weasel" are using the same algorithm. Do you agree or disagee with Kariosfocus on that? If you agree, what's your explanation for why the outputs differ totally from one generation to the next on D/M and are almost identical in Dawkins "original"? And the population question, of course - 1 vs N population, how can they be using the same algorithm? threadjack over!Blue Lotus
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Not an evidentially discerned causal explanation, only, rather, the only possible explanation that a Darwinist has. I disagree, Clive. It's not the only possible explanation a Darwinist has - it's barely a "Darwinist" solution at all. Even the author points out that neutral evolution "falls outside the descriptions of Charles Darwin". The fact is that, whatever one may think of ID, biology has turned out to be a very different beast from what Darwin expected at the time. Horizontal gene transfer, epigenetics, cellular complexity, symbiosis, convergent evolution, etc. Darwin's thoughts, in large part, are vestigial organs in the modern evolutionary beast. Anyway, the article screws up right at the start: "Intricate cellular components are often cited as evidence of intelligent design. They couldn’t have evolved, I.D. proponents say, because they can’t be broken down into smaller, simpler functional parts." First of all - as Dembski himself said recently on this site - ID is compatible with evolution. By my understanding, what it really isn't compatible with is Darwinism - and even there, particularly the superfluous-to-science metaphysical components of "Darwinism". Second - someone correct me if I am wrong here - the claim with irreducible complexity is not that an IC structure "can't be broken down into smaller, simpler functional parts". Rather, it's that an IC structure requires several parts to perform its given role at all - and if you remove one of these parts, that role is not performed. That's different from finding some role, any role, for a given part of an IC structure. Frankly, the anti-ID "explanation" Wired offers here sounds suspiciously similar to ID Front-loading Hypotheses. The idea of useful structures coming into being in advance of any need and then being put into use by an organism later on is one hell of a hop away from Darwin. It's not necessarily a hop away from evolution writ large, but people should realize that just because something evolved doesn't mean there was no design in play. Evolution-style programs are used by designers after all.nullasalus
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The author's speculations are precisely what science is not. How ironic, that in an attempt to demonstrate that ID is not science he spouts utterly unsupported speculative silliness to demonstrate what real science is all about. His speculation is the old co-option fantasy. This particular Darwinian fantasy demonstrates a complete lack of any, even the most trivial, analytical scrutiny. I wrote the following on this topic:
1) In order for co-option to produce a bacterial flagellum (for example) all of the component parts must have been present at the same time and in roughly the same place, and all of them must have had other naturally-selectable, useful functions. There is no evidence whatsoever that this ever was the case, or that it ever even could have been the case. 2) The components would have to have been compatible with each other functionally. A bolt that is too large, too small, or that has threads that are too fine or too coarse to match those of a nut, cannot be combined with the nut to make a fastener. There is absolutely no evidence that this interface compatibility ever existed (between all those imaginary co-opted component parts), or that it even could have existed. 3) Even if all the parts are available at the same time and in the same place, and are functionally compatible, one can't just put them in a bag, shake them up, and have a motor fall out. An assembly mechanism is required, and that mechanism must be complete in every detail, otherwise incomplete or improper assembly will result, and no naturally-selectable function will be produced. The assembly mechanism thus represents yet another irreducibly complex hurdle. 4) Last, and perhaps most importantly, assembly instructions are required. Assembly must be timed and coordinated properly. And the assembly instructions must be complete in every detail, otherwise no function will result. This represents an additional irreducibly complex hurdle. Co-option is a demonstrably fantastic story made up out of whole cloth, with absolutely no basis in evidence. And it doesn't withstand even the most trivial analytical scrutiny. There is not a shred of evidence that this process ever took place, or that it even could have taken place. Worst of all, it requires blind acceptance of the clearly miraculous. There is a great irony here. This verifiably ridiculous co-option fantasy is presented as “science," while a straightforward and reasonable inference to design is labeled pseudoscience. The real state of affairs is precisely the reverse.
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I saw this article and was dumbfounded at the sloppy logic revealed in it. Your engine analogy is a pretty apt description of that sort of thinking. Co-option/exaptation/preadaptation all strike me as explanations of the following form: Theorem: We can climb out of any hole. Assumption 1: Assume that obtaining a ladder of the size we need is feasible at that moment... AtomAtom
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