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Extinct bird had longest wingspan found to date

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From Science:

Fossils unearthed at a construction project in South Carolina belong to a bird with the largest wingspan ever known, according to a new study. The animal measured 6.4 meters from wingtip to wingtip, about the length of a 10-passenger limousine and approaching twice the size of the wandering albatross, today’s wingspan record-holder. Like modern-day albatrosses, the newly described species would have been a soaring champ.

Pelagornis sandersi belongs to an extinct group of species that lived between 3 and 55 million years ago, which

ranged worldwide, because their fossils have been found on all continents. Previously, scientists had suggested that pelagornithids, as the birds are known, were related to pelicans and albatrosses, but recent studies hint that the group is more closely related to ducks, geese, and swans. More.

The reason for the extinction of the genus is unclear but it may have been related to “changes in climate that affected wind speeds over the seas, a change in the availability of preferred foods, or some combination of the two.”

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11 Replies to “Extinct bird had longest wingspan found to date

  1. 1
    Robert Byers says:

    Its cool and glorious and sad its not here.
    Its a post flood bird and actually common for all creatures after the flood to get hugh. Many birds did too. Only a few big ones are around now.
    It went extinct with lots of creatures a few centuries after the flood due to disasters on the land I think. ran out of food.

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    groovamos says:

    Not knowing what is the “flood”, unless it is the flood of the bible. If so what relevance does a biblical allegory have for a discussion regarding this fossil discovery?

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    Acartia_bogart says:

    Groovamos:

    Not knowing what is the “flood”, unless it is the flood of the bible. If so what relevance does a biblical allegory have for a discussion regarding this fossil discovery?

    Mr. Byers is a bible literalist. Six thousand year old earth, global flood, and humans riding on the back of dinosaurs.

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    Piotr says:

    It went extinct with lots of creatures a few centuries after the flood due to disasters on the land I think. ran out of food.

    Pelagornithids were pelagic seabirds, most likely feeding on fish and squids on the open ocean.

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    StephenA says:

    Robert Byers:
    Ok, I’m curious. Why do you think it was common for animals to get huge after the flood? I thought oversized creatures were generally assumed to have lived before the flood, not after.

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    Robert Byers says:

    StephenA
    Its not that they were hugh but biology is today so shrunk.
    in the pre/post flood world they were all more healthy and creatures like man lived hundreds of years. In order to refill the planet within timelines.
    All creatures today have hugh examples of themselves in fossils .
    We are in a state of greater decay and all biology is suffering.

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    StephenA says:

    Ok, but what makes you say that this one was post flood? Wouldn’t it be more likely that it lived prior to the flood, and maybe even died in it?

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    groovamos says:

    StevenA and Byers: Where is it written that what is written must never in scripture be allegorical? I hope you guys understand the ridicule many of us have to witness when you show up on ID friendly sites and you insist all of the continents somehow disappeared sometime in the last 5000 years when the rest of us are trying to be scientifically and philosophically serious and consistent. I find myself having to agree with materialists about you and it is not fun, not the reason I come to the site. It is funny though how you never give us the mechanism for dissappearing the continents and then bringing them back. Where are the worldwide signs of the crushing, inconceivable forces that appeared in the last 5000 years to punch all the continents and islands below sea level? And then to push them back out?

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    Robert Byers says:

    StephenA
    its all about the strata layers. to this YEC the k-t line is the flood line. so fossils above it are after the flood. This was one of them.

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    Robert Byers says:

    grooveamas
    This forum dealswith truth and so creationism kicks in.
    you might get persuaded if your open to questioning evolution or advocating Gods fingerprints in nature.
    YEC teaches the world was first one continent and the flood year broke it into its present looks. I say there was a post flood change by the continents dropping hundreds or so feet.

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    StephenA says:

    Groovamos:
    If you read my above posts carefully you will notice that I never actually said I agreed with Robert about anything, I just asked him to explain why, if most fossils were laid down in the flood, he would claim that this was from after the flood.
    I am a YEC, but that doesn’t mean I automatically agree with everything every other YEC claims.

    StevenA and Byers: Where is it written that what is written must never in scripture be allegorical?

    Some parts of scripture are allegorical, some parts are historical. How can we tell which parts are meant to be which? By context. And the context of Genesis is clearly historical.

    I hope you guys understand the ridicule many of us have to witness when you show up on ID friendly sites…

    No. As a YEC I have no idea what it is like to be ridiculed.

    It is funny though how you never give us the mechanism for dissappearing the continents and then bringing them back. Where are the worldwide signs of the crushing, inconceivable forces that appeared in the last 5000 years to punch all the continents and islands below sea level? And then to push them back out?

    Firstly, few if any YECs claim that the continents we have today are the same as the ones (or one) we had before the flood. The forces that operated during the flood are generally believed to have torn the continents into roughly their current shape.
    Secondly, what kind of signs are you expecting? Sedimentary rock all over the earth? Fossils on even the highest mountains? We have those.
    Uniformitarians believe the earth was shaped by (relatively) small forces over a great deal of time. Do you really think that the result of a great deal of force over a short period of time would be completely dissimilar?

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