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Breaking out of our present peril (and, whose report should we believe?)

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How can we break out of our present peril, as a civilisation?

Let’s pause and hear Francis Schaeffer on the subject:

A key aspect of the challenge, is that Democracies, from the days of Plato, are known to be prone to decay into misrule and marches of folly driven by manipulated mobs.

Hence, the concept, demagogue:

demagogue or demagog
n
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a political agitator who appeals with crude oratory to the prejudice and passions of the mob
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) (esp in the ancient world) any popular political leader or orator
[C17: from Greek d?mag?gos people’s leader, from d?mos people + agein to lead]
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014

Of course, often the demagogue is part of a stable of bought and paid for actors, backed by some Mr Moneybags behind the scenes.

Sometimes, there are far more sinister networks with mostly hidden, escalating, ruinous agendas. Just to list:

  • mobs or even militias on the streets,
  • crudely populist agitators,
  • more cultured literary voices and/or literal actors and celebrities with popular followings,
  • pundits, academics and other high prestige experts,
  • think-tanks, public relations strategists and agencies,
  • marketers, agit-prop strategists,
  • media houses,
  • parties
  • and more.

If we have not drawn these frightening lessons from the history of C20, with both the Communists/Bolsheviks and their kissing-cousins the Nazis/Fascists, we have yet again failed to learn lessons of sound history that were paid for in literal rivers of blood.

Maybe, we need to read Canetti’s Crowds and Power.

Perhaps some thoughts on the heirs of both, today’s Alinskyite cultural marxists, would be advisable.

Now, too, where there is a howling, menacing mob on the streets or in your workplace or online pushing a powerful and destructive attack-agenda, you can bet your bottom dollar that somewhere, there is a paymaster backed by serious money. Which, can even be the lead bureaucrats of the increasingly powerful state apparatus, the so-called deep state and their allies in the intelligentsia who are bought with grant money.

(This, BTW is my read of the ongoing mid-game play-out in North America [no, the end-game of the current, battle- of- attrition- by- mob- and- lawfare- driven- personal- ruin cultural civil war is not yet], i/l/o my observations on trends with the increasingly obviously utterly unstable UK. Three PM’s in four or so years is not a good sign.)

Ac 27 has in it a raft of sobering lessons we have yet to seriously attend to, draw lessons from and absorb in the Churches, much less the wider culture. And so does a lot more of what now seem to be hidden, derided corners of willfully silenced and forgotten history of our common civilisation. One, once rightfully called Christendom . . . with all its sins, struggles and blessings; but which, having willfully and angrily cut itself off from its vital roots through the oppression thesis, now begins to decay disgustingly as it withers.

It is now very hard to find a decent survey history of our civilisation, something that used to be commonly taught in colleges and schools; a bad sign. [I shrug, then suggest here as an obviously flawed outline.]

So, yes, of all people the notorious Vox Day [NOT generally endorsed but he has drawn up a useful survival guide for the mobbed], in his description of mobbing, job-busting, deplatforming and scapegoating-driven marginalisation:

The eight stages of the SJW attack sequence are as follows:

1] Locate or Create a Violation of the Narrative. [–> used to be: the party-line, cf. Orwell, 1984 and Animal Farm]
2] Point and Shriek. [–> slander to smear and mark the target]
3] Isolate and Swarm. [–> mob-riot and bullying or lynching]
4] Reject and Transform. [–> the scapegoat carries away the sins of the multitude, which must now ever more conform to the agenda of “new” “virtues” demanded by the radicals and their mobs . . . generally ending in reigns of terror if unchecked]
5] Press for Surrender. [–> demand to dominate by nihilistic power disguised as claims for justice]
6] Appeal to Amenable Authority. [–> more interested in “reputational damage” than justice]
7] Show Trial. [–> a highlight of both Stalin and Hitler’s Nazis, the media-amplified kangaroo court, also going back to Robespierre and the guillotine. With Rommel, just the threat with further threat to ruin family caused him to commit suicide. This was followed by the show state funeral.]
8] Victory Parade.[–> with the decapitated head on a pike or the like, don’t forget, attainting of the bloodline by ruining the family]

Here, I suggest, that we need voices that can draw together a body of insights toward effective, sound strategic solutions. However, where there are the powerful who profit from continued chaos and/or from manipulated agendas, any moves towards such sound synthesis or a way out of the chaos-maze will be viciously targetted by the ruthless reprobates.

And the attack-mob baying for metaphorical or literal blood (think about Rome’s policy of bread and circuses and its modern extensions) is one of the habitually resorted to tools of such; whenever there are times where such mobs can gain traction.

Yes, another compass-needle pointing to the peril of our times.

Now, let us turn to a source that I find refreshing by sharpest contrast; Pascal, in some of his opening remarks for Pensees. For, we need an idea of where to find a way forward:

1. The difference between the mathematical and the intuitive mind.—In the one, the
principles are palpable, but removed from ordinary use; so that for want of habit it is difficult
to turn one’s mind in that direction: but if one turns it thither ever so little, one sees the
principles fully, and one must have a quite inaccurate mind who reasons wrongly from
principles so plain that it is almost impossible they should escape notice.

But in the intuitive mind the principles are found in common use and are before the
eyes of everybody. One has only to look, and no effort is necessary; it is only a question of
good eyesight, but it must be good, for the principles are so subtle and so numerous that it
is almost impossible but that some escape notice. Now the omission of one principle leads
to error; thus one must have very clear sight to see all the principles and, in the next place,
an accurate mind not to draw false deductions from known principles.

All mathematicians would then be intuitive if they had clear sight, for they do not
reason incorrectly from principles known to them; and intuitive minds would be mathem-
atical if they could turn their eyes to the principles of mathematics to which they are unused.

The reason, therefore, that some intuitive minds are not mathematical is that they cannot
at all turn their attention to the principles of mathematics. But the reason that mathematicians
are not intuitive is that they do not see what is before them, and that, accustomed to the
exact and plain principles of mathematics, and not reasoning till they have well inspected
and arranged their principles, they are lost in matters of intuition where the principles do
not allow of such arrangement. They are scarcely seen; they are felt rather than seen; there
is the greatest difficulty in making them felt by those who do not of themselves perceive
them. These principles are so fine and so numerous that a very delicate and very clear sense
is needed to perceive them, and to judge rightly and justly when they are perceived, without
for the most part being able to demonstrate them in order as in mathematics, because the
principles are not known to us in the same way, and because it would be an endless matter
to undertake it. We must see the matter at once, at one glance, and not by a process of
reasoning, at least to a certain degree.

And thus it is rare that mathematicians are intuitive
and that men of intuition are mathematicians, because mathematicians wish to treat matters
of intuition mathematically and make themselves ridiculous, wishing to begin with definitions
and then with axioms, which is not the way to proceed in this kind of reasoning. Not that
the mind does not do so, but it does it tacitly, naturally, and without technical rules; for the
expression of it is beyond all men, and only a few can feel it.

Intuitive minds, on the contrary, being thus accustomed to judge at a single glance, are
so astonished when they are presented with propositions of which they understand nothing,
and the way to which is through definitions and axioms so sterile, and which they are not
accustomed to see thus in detail, that they are repelled and disheartened.

But dull minds are never either intuitive or mathematical.

There are minds that are both broadly intuitive and aware, seeing synoptically and synthetically on picking up deep, reliable and powerful patterns/principles from clues AND are then able to be exactingly precise in forming and drawing out plausible postulates and logical-structural, qualitative/existential and quantitative consequences.

Such are apt to be found among physicists, big-picture philosophers who tackle big issues, philosophical theologians, big-picture economists of the first rank [including among the Austrian heretics], certain types of similarly big picture but profoundly insightful cultural/policy critics or great artists and historians.

(Let me note for record: Marx was a spoiled case, whose correct insights need to be carefully harvested from the many errors of his materialism, and soundly, wisely put together with many others. Starting, with the lessons of the reformation and the breakthrough American Experiment. We must not allow an over-emphasis on the sins of Christendom to blind us to the hard-bought advances and blessings, as well as the proved mechanisms for prudent incremental reformation rather than ill-advised radical experiments that due to lack of checks, balances, soundness and restraint, predictably end in tyranny and chaos. One of the things we must recover is our confident, well-founded faith in God, in the gospel, in gospel ethics [thus, in linked natural law] and in the scriptures attested by the resurrection of the Christ witnessed by the five hundred.)

It is no accident that Pascal was a Mathematician-Physicist, philosopher with theological bent and one of the pioneers of highest French style. Minds like that are multiply rare: simultaneously rare on multiple dimensions.

But, in an age of widespread communication at low cost, we can learn from such synoptic thinkers, starting with realising that a few thousand words are powerfully distilling many thousands of pages (or even thousands of books) of reading and even more hours of pondering and deep discussion among the truly informed . . . as opposed to mere purveyors and guardians of current academic shibboleths. (Here, compare Ac 17 and 27 with 1 Cor 1 – 2.)

In short, let us learn enough broadly about our civilisation and big, fundamental issues that we can begin to work our way out of the problematique we are manifestly in, willfully and foolishly dancing on the edge of a crumbling cliff.

It matters not, whether the words used to bring out the synthesis are original or are clipped, the issue is, let us find valuable, instructive, wise and promising synthesis.

Let me give one clue, tracing to Francis Schaeffer:

Extending (and correcting) Schaeffer’s vision of the course of western thought, worldviews and culture, C1 – 21

He and others have also given a handy way to see the way ideas dominate a culture, and how we may go about reformation. So, more food for thought:

As a third, here is a summary on the challenge of change:

Ours, is a perilous time.

A kairos, fraught with consequences.

Let us make good use of it, before it is too late. END

Comments
PS: This textbook's analysis may help us do the necessary rethinking:
Excerpted chapter summary, on Subjectivism, Relativism, and Emotivism, in Doing Ethics 3rd Edn, by Lewis Vaughn, W W Norton, 2012. [Also see here and here.] Clipping: . . . Subjective relativism is the view that an action is morally right if one approves of it. A person’s approval makes the action right. This doctrine (as well as cultural relativism) is in stark contrast to moral objectivism, the view that some moral principles are valid for everyone.. Subjective relativism, though, has some troubling implications. It implies that each person is morally infallible and that individuals can never have a genuine moral disagreement Cultural relativism is the view that an action is morally right if one’s culture approves of it. The argument for this doctrine is based on the diversity of moral judgments among cultures: because people’s judgments about right and wrong differ from culture to culture, right and wrong must be relative to culture, and there are no objective moral principles. This argument is defective, however, because the diversity of moral views does not imply that morality is relative to cultures. In addition, the alleged diversity of basic moral standards among cultures may be only apparent, not real. Societies whose moral judgments conflict may be differing not over moral principles but over nonmoral facts. Some think that tolerance is entailed by cultural relativism. But there is no necessary connection between tolerance and the doctrine. Indeed, the cultural relativist cannot consistently advocate tolerance while maintaining his relativist standpoint. To advocate tolerance is to advocate an objective moral value. But if tolerance is an objective moral value, then cultural relativism must be false, because it says that there are no objective moral values. Like subjective relativism, cultural relativism has some disturbing consequences. It implies that cultures are morally infallible, that social reformers can never be morally right, that moral disagreements between individuals in the same culture amount to arguments over whether they disagree with their culture, that other cultures cannot be legitimately criticized, and that moral progress is impossible. Emotivism is the view that moral utterances are neither true nor false but are expressions of emotions or attitudes. It leads to the conclusion that people can disagree only in attitude, not in beliefs. People cannot disagree over the moral facts, because there are no moral facts. Emotivism also implies that presenting reasons in support of a moral utterance is a matter of offering nonmoral facts that can influence someone’s attitude. It seems that any nonmoral facts will do, as long as they affect attitudes. Perhaps the most far-reaching implication of emotivism is that nothing is actually good or bad. There simply are no properties of goodness and badness. There is only the expression of favorable or unfavorable emotions or attitudes toward something.
kairosfocus
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BB, do you realise what you have said and implied in claiming "Rights are whatever society decides they are"? For one, you have just admitted to the utter nihilism of cultural relativism, under which instantly the one who stands up and cries out against injustice -- simply because he is a dissenter -- is automatically in the wrong. Yes, a Marcus Garvey or a Martin Luther King or a Ghandi or a Mother Teresa or even a Jesus of Nazareth are automatically in the wrong, until they wrest power and can in turn impose their will on the society. On which, suddenly, they are right. As, automatically Hitler was right (until he was defeated) or Stalin was right (until he was denounced, post mortem), and more. The absurdity is patent, and was warned against by Plato in The Laws, Bk X 2360 years ago:
Ath [in The Laws, Bk X 2,350+ ya]. . . .[The avant garde philosophers and poets, c. 360 BC] say that fire and water, and earth and air [i.e the classical "material" elements of the cosmos], all exist by nature and chance, and none of them by art . . . [such that] all that is in the heaven, as well as animals and all plants, and all the seasons come from these elements, not by the action of mind, as they say, or of any God, or from art, but as I was saying, by nature and chance only [ --> that is, evolutionary materialism is ancient and would trace all things to blind chance and mechanical necessity] . . . . [Thus, they hold] that the principles of justice have no existence at all in nature, but that mankind are always disputing about them and altering them; and that the alterations which are made by art and by law have no basis in nature, but are of authority for the moment and at the time at which they are made.-
[ --> Relativism, too, is not new; complete with its radical amorality rooted in a worldview that has no foundational IS that can ground OUGHT, leading to an effectively arbitrary foundation only for morality, ethics and law: accident of personal preference, the ebbs and flows of power politics, accidents of history and and the shifting sands of manipulated community opinion driven by "winds and waves of doctrine and the cunning craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming . . . " cf a video on Plato's parable of the cave; from the perspective of pondering who set up the manipulative shadow-shows, why.]
These, my friends, are the sayings of wise men, poets and prose writers, which find a way into the minds of youth. They are told by them that the highest right is might,
[ --> Evolutionary materialism -- having no IS that can properly ground OUGHT -- leads to the promotion of amorality on which the only basis for "OUGHT" is seen to be might (and manipulation: might in "spin") . . . ]
and in this way the young fall into impieties, under the idea that the Gods are not such as the law bids them imagine; and hence arise factions [ --> Evolutionary materialism-motivated amorality "naturally" leads to continual contentions and power struggles influenced by that amorality at the hands of ruthless power hungry nihilistic agendas], these philosophers inviting them to lead a true life according to nature, that is,to live in real dominion over others [ --> such amoral and/or nihilistic factions, if they gain power, "naturally" tend towards ruthless abuse and arbitrariness . . . they have not learned the habits nor accepted the principles of mutual respect, justice, fairness and keeping the civil peace of justice, so they will want to deceive, manipulate and crush -- as the consistent history of radical revolutions over the past 250 years so plainly shows again and again], and not in legal subjection to them [--> nihilistic will to power not the spirit of justice and lawfulness].
Evolutionary materialism is manifestly absurd. Let us wake up and turn from it before it is too late. KF I draw to your attentionkairosfocus
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EDTA
The potential for rapid social change is, by definition, instability.
I don’t think that anyone is disputing that, but this potential for instability is no reason to avoid social change. The revolution resulted in huge social change and high levels of instability, but I think we all agree that it was worth while. Ending slavery, another rapid social change, resulted in years of instability. The equal rights fights in the sixties invoked rapid social change and instability. All I am saying is that the risk of instability should never be used as the primary justification to avoid social change. Homosexual rights resulted in sexual attraction no longer being grounds for denied employment, denied opportunities or denied access to services. This was a relatively rapid social change and has resulted in instability for those who believe that their religious beliefs give them the right to deny services to homosexuals.Brother Brian
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When a society collapses and the people demand order--and the government is more than happy to enforce that, _anything_ can happen. The potential for rapid social change is, by definition, instability.EDTA
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Brother Brian:
You may not like the right of women to choose,...
LoL! Women can choose BEFORE having sex. Once they are pregnant it is no longer just their body.
or the right of homosexuals to marry
There isn't any such right. Look in the US Constitution. It isn't there.ET
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F/N: I remind, as already put on the table above but studiously ignored:
There wasn’t anything to ignore. Rights are whatever society decides they are. Throughout history they have been granted, removed and suspended. You may not like the right of women to choose, or the right of homosexuals to marry, or the lack of the right for a vendor to deny services due to the sexual orientation of the customer, or the right for transgender to use the bathroom of their choice, but in many jurisdictions society has granted these rights. And, frankly, I support all of these rights. But that doesn’t mean that these rights can’t be taken away. Society can be fickle that way. You are demanding absolutes, absolute right or absolutely wrong. But the problem with this is that people often disagree on what is right and what is wrong.Brother Brian
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F/N: I remind, as already put on the table above but studiously ignored:
I point out again that a right is a binding moral claim to be protected in a certain regard. So, one may only justly claim a right if one is manifestly in the right. The twisting of rights language and law driven by legal nihilism rooted in undermining the law of our morally governed nature is yet another sign of our awful peril as a civilisation. The ghosts of 800+ millions destroyed in the womb under false colour of law and rights — with another million more each week — are reminding us that blood guilt is the most corrupting influence of all. We are heading over a cliff and democratic freedom is discrediting itself through the agendas of cultural marxism. Ironically, if it comes to a shooting war [it is already at the level of ruinous media amplified agit prop, lawfare and violent street mobs], the cultural marxists will lose but the biggest loss will be liberty. Our only hope is prompt restoration of sound natural law accepted as the foundation of civil law. As a key part of that, some judges will need to face impeachment for contempt of constitution, parliament [or the equivalent] and people.
KFkairosfocus
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BB, the concept of rights needs cogent definition and to be tied to being manifestly in the right. Otherwise rights talk will be taken captive by the powerful but wrong and used to perversely impose evil put in the place of good. The abortion holocaust is case study number one, as in former days slavery and the kidnapping based slave trade were. KF PS: I clip a 2700 year old warning to a perverted but complacent society on its way to ruin:
Isa 5:20 Woe (judgment is coming) to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe (judgment is coming) to those who are wise in their own eyes And clever and shrewd in their own sight! 22 Woe (judgment is coming) to those who are heroes at drinking wine And men of strength in mixing intoxicating drinks, 23 Who justify the wicked and acquit the guilty for a bribe, And take away the rights of those who are in the right! 24 Therefore, as the tongue of fire consumes the stubble [from straw] And the dry grass collapses into the flame, So their root will become like rot and their blossom blow away like fine dust; Because they have rejected the law of the Lord of hosts And despised and discarded the word of the Holy One of Israel. [AMP]
kairosfocus
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BB, misdirected. KFkairosfocus
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Brother Brian:
A shift to a more theocratic government, on the other hand, could result in women and homosexuals losing some of the rights they currently have.
It could also result in women and homosexuals ruling the world.ET
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I’m not sure that an economic collapse wouldn’t lead to bad social outcomes (both from your perspective and from mine). All these things intertwine in ways we cannot predict, especially now that cultural change has almost no brakes on it.
You are, of course, correct. Poverty and desperation have serious societal consequences. But I can’t see women’s and homosexual rights being overly affected. Sure, there may be some who take their frustration on women and homosexuals, but I doubt if financial collapse would result in removing some rights currently afforded women and homosexuals. A shift to a more theocratic government, on the other hand, could result in women and homosexuals losing some of the rights they currently have.Brother Brian
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PS: Let me add Blackstone from 250 years ago -- and Blackstone was the standard textbook for law in the USA in and well beyond the founding era:
Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765-1769) Sir William Blackstone INTRODUCTION, SECTION 2 Of the Nature of Laws in General . . . [L]aws, in their more confined sense, and in which it is our present business to consider them, denote the rules, not of action in general, but of human action or conduct: that is, the precepts by which man, the noblest of all sublunary beings, a creature endowed with both reason and freewill, is commanded to make use of those faculties in the general regulation of his behavior. Man, considered as a creature, must necessarily be subject to the laws of his creator, for he is entirely a dependent being [--> we are contingent creatures under a Creator who as Maximally Great, necessary being, has aseity]. A being, independent of any other, has no rule to pursue, but such as he prescribes to himself [--> notice, aseity, and the implied folly of a contingent creature presuming that responsible rational freedom gives him utter, arbitrary autonomy of action]; but a state of dependence will inevitably oblige the inferior to take the will of him, on whom he depends, as the rule of his conduct: not indeed in every particular, but in all those points wherein his dependence consists. This principle therefore has more or less extent and effect, in proportion as the superiority of the one and the dependence of the other is greater or less, absolute or limited. And consequently, as man depends absolutely upon his maker for every thing, it is necessary that he should in all points conform to his maker’s will.
[--> hence, the significance of seeing from our inescapably being under moral government, that we operate on both sides of the IS-OUGHT gap. So, it must be bridged, which is only feasible in the root of reality, on pain of Hume's ungrounded ought: reasoning is-is then poof, ought from nowhere. Coherence demands fusion, only feasible in the world-root source. This requires a necessary being root of reality adequate to support ought. After centuries of vexed debate, there remains just one serious candidate: the inherently good (and so, utterly wise and soundly acting) creator God, a necessary and maximally great being. Thus, one who is framework to any world existing, indeed, its source. Further, one who is worthy of loyalty and of the responsible, reasonable service of doing the good that accords with our evident nature.
This will of his maker is called the law of nature. For as God, when he created matter, and endued it with a principle of mobility, established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; so, when he created man, and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, he laid down certain immutable laws of human nature, whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws. Considering the creator only as a being of infinite power, he was able unquestionably to have prescribed whatever laws he pleased to his creature, man, however unjust or severe. [--> Blackstone, here, errs somewhat in this suggestion, as he does not adequately consider God's goodness and the moral coherence of his character: God as inherently good will do no evil] But as be is also a being of infinite wisdom [--> notice, utterly wise so also inherently good], he has laid down only such laws as were founded in those relations of justice, that existed in the nature of things antecedent to any positive precept. These are the eternal, immutable laws of good and evil, to which the creator himself in all his dispensations conforms; and which he has enabled human reason to discover, so far as they are necessary for the conduct of human actions. Such among others are these principles: that we should live honestly, should hurt nobody, and should render to every one his due; to which three general precepts Justinian1 has reduced the whole doctrine of law. [--> In introductory remarks in the built-in textbook, Institutes, for Corpus Juris Civilis, which in turn echoes Aristotle in the Nicomachean Ethics, and of course Paul, Jesus and Moses on the law of neighbour love.] But if the discovery of these first principles of the law of nature depended only upon the due exertion of right reason [--> notice, the implicit duty to reason aright starting with its first principles], and could not otherwise be obtained than by a chain of metaphysical disquisitions, mankind would have wanted some inducement to have quickened their inquiries, and the greater part of the world would have rested content in mental indolence, and ignorance its inseparable companion. As therefore the creator is a being, not only of infinite power, and wisdom, but also of infinite goodness [--> he now draws this out], he has been pleased so to contrive the constitution and frame of humanity, that we should want no other prompter to inquire after and pursue the rule of right, but only our own self-love, that universal principle of action.[--> which is the implicit premise in love neighbour as self] For he has so intimately connected, so inseparably interwoven the laws of eternal justice with the happiness of each individual, that the latter cannot be attained but by observing the former; and, if the former be punctually obeyed, it cannot but induce the latter. In consequence of which mutual connection of justice and human felicity, he has not perplexed the law of nature with a multitude of abstracted rules and precepts, referring merely to the fitness or unfitness of things, as some have vainly surmised; but has graciously reduced the rule of obedience to this one paternal precept, “that man should pursue his own true and substantial happiness.”
[--> which by definition cannot but be in a community of like creatures, leading to mutual obligations of neighbour-love; note the direct echo in the US DOI, July 4, 1776. However, the lack of balance is a key weak point. By way of rebalancing, for instance, justice is best understood as the due balance of rights, freedoms and responsibilities in the community of the morally governed. Which, in turn, is credibly rooted in the inherently good, utterly wise Creator..]
This is the foundation of what we call ethics, or natural law. For the several articles into which it is branched in our systems, amount to no more than demonstrating, that this or that action tends to man’s real happiness, and therefore very justly concluding that the performance of it is a part of the law of nature; or, on the other hand, that this or that action is destructive of man’s real happiness, and therefore that the law of nature forbids it. This law of nature, being coeval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other-It is binding over all the globe in all countries, and at all times; no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this: and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original. But in order to apply this to the particular exigencies of each individual, it is still necessary to have recourse to reason; whose office it is to discover, as was before observed, what the law of nature directs in every circumstance of life: by considering, what method will tend the most effectually to our own substantial happiness.
Let these stand as signposts showing the needless peril we are in as a civilisation.kairosfocus
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F/N: A reminder on sound natural law:
—Marcus [in de Legibus, introductory remarks,. C1 BC]: . . . the subject of our present discussion . . . comprehends the universal principles of equity and law. In such a discussion therefore on the great moral law of nature, the practice of the civil law can occupy but an insignificant and subordinate station. For according to our idea, we shall have to explain the true nature of moral justice, which is congenial and correspondent [36]with the true nature of man.
[--> Note, how justice and our built in nature as a morally governed class of creatures are highlighted; thus framing the natural law frame: recognising built-in law that we do not create nor can we repeal, which then frames a sound understanding of justice. Without such an anchor, law inevitably reduces to the sort of ruthless, nihilistic might- and- manipulation- make- "right,"- "truth,"- "knowledge,"- "law"- and- "justice"- etc power struggle and chaos Plato warned against in The Laws Bk X.]
We shall have to examine those principles of legislation by which all political states should be governed. And last of all, shall we have to speak of those laws and customs which are framed for the use and convenience of particular peoples, which regulate the civic and municipal affairs of the citizens, and which are known by the title of civil laws. Quintus [his real-life brother]. —You take a noble view of the subject, my brother, and go to the fountain–head of moral truth, in order to throw light on the whole science of jurisprudence: while those who confine their legal studies to the civil law too often grow less familiar with the arts of justice than with those of litigation. Marcus. —Your observation, my Quintus, is not quite correct. It is not so much the science of law that produces litigation, as the ignorance of it, (potius ignoratio juris litigiosa est quam scientia) . . . . With respect to the true principle of justice, many learned men have maintained that it springs from Law. I hardly know if their opinion be not correct, at least, according to their own definition; for “Law (say they) is the highest reason, implanted in nature, which prescribes those things which ought to be done, and forbids the contrary.” This, they think, is apparent from the converse of the proposition; because this same reason, when it [37]is confirmed and established in men’s minds, is the law of all their actions. They therefore conceive that the voice of conscience is a law, that moral prudence is a law, whose operation is to urge us to good actions, and restrain us from evil ones. They think, too, that the Greek name for law (NOMOS), which is derived from NEMO, to distribute, implies the very nature of the thing, that is, to give every man his due. [--> this implies a definition of justice as the due balance of rights, freedoms and responsibilities] For my part, I imagine that the moral essence of law is better expressed by its Latin name, (lex), which conveys the idea of selection or discrimination. According to the Greeks, therefore, the name of law implies an equitable distribution of goods: according to the Romans, an equitable discrimination between good and evil. The true definition of law should, however, include both these characteristics. And this being granted as an almost self–evident proposition, the origin of justice is to be sought in the divine law of eternal and immutable morality. This indeed is the true energy of nature, the very soul and essence of wisdom, the test of virtue and vice.
This is over 2,000 years old and comes from the pen of one of the all time greats. Why have we forgotten this? Other than, we have foolishly turned our backs on God, leading to utter debasement of hearts, minds, lives, governance, law, government, community and civilisation. With ruin patently ahead. KFkairosfocus
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BB & ET, I am gavelling politics of personal attack and yet another attempted dragging down into the sewer of sexual perversities and impositions of same under false colour of claimed rights leading to lawfare. There are other venues for such discussion aplenty and UD is not a forum for partisan politics or linked personal invective. On the subject of accusations above, I simply say that if the US had sensible defamation law, loaded accusations such as we commonly see online and in the media would long since have been sued out of existence, with bankruptcies of those making such accusations. I note in this regard the case of a first level tossing out of a US$ 250 million lawsuit over a media lynch mob in January of this year, targetting minors on a school outing in protest of the ongoing holocaust of the unborn. Where, of course, the ill-founded accusation of racism was the pivot of the slander, turning on the "crime" of wearing a "MAGA" cap with all the agit prop accusations loaded unto that thought-crime by irresponsible political, media and online agitators. This is of course also a case of the trifecta fallacy. Doubtless, this case will go to cycles of appeals, likely ending up at the supreme court. That is, it will cost millions, so that the dragged out process becomes a further, financial lynching. And if a minor subjected to agit prop media ambush and media amplified defamation in the teeth of exonerating video evidence and opportunity to retract patently false accusations is facing something like this, that is a sign of how broken the system is. KF PS: I point out again that a right is a binding moral claim to be protected in a certain regard. So, one may only justly claim a right if one is manifestly in the right. The twisting of rights language and law driven by legal nihilism rooted in undermining the law of our morally governed nature is yet another sign of our awful peril as a civilisation. The ghosts of 800+ millions destroyed in the womb under false colour of law and rights -- with another million more each week -- are reminding us that blood guilt is the most corrupting influence of all. We are heading over a cliff and democratic freedom is discrediting itself through the agendas of cultural marxism. Ironically, if it comes to a shooting war [it is already at the level of ruinous media amplified agit prop, lawfare and violent street mobs], the cultural marxists will lose but the biggest loss will be liberty. Our only hope is prompt restoration of sound natural law accepted as the foundation of civil law. As a key part of that, some judges will need to face impeachment for contempt of constitution, parliament [or the equivalent] and people.kairosfocus
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BB, >A massive economic collapse would have an impact on anything to do with benefits associated with advanced health care, but little impact on homosexual and women’s rights. I'm not sure that an economic collapse wouldn't lead to bad social outcomes (both from your perspective and from mine). All these things intertwine in ways we cannot predict, especially now that cultural change has almost no brakes on it.EDTA
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Brother Brian:
As we are now seeing with Trump’s xenophobic and racist agenda.
You have to be a total loser and liar to say that.ET
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1) Technology is a double-edged sword,...
I agree. That has always been the case. With technology comes responsibilities and obligations. Antibiotics have significantly reduced the infant mortality rates, but they have also resulted in antibiotic resistant strains. Still, I think that we would all agree that they have been a net gain.
2) Societal trends such as lower crime, less persecution, less discrimination, and so on can change overnight if societal conditions change.
As we are now seeing with Trump's xenophobic and racist agenda.
In other words, none of the trends cited are the least bit resistant to sudden reversal, or in the case of technology, to being turned against the people.
From the day we first sharpened the end of a stick, technology has had the capability of being used against people. But, I think that over history, the benefits have outweighed the negatives. There is no reason to suspect this will change. Although, any new technology will come with growing pains, as we have most recently seen with the internet. I would argue that many of the things I listed are resistant to sudden reversal, but not immune. A massive economic collapse would have an impact on anything to do with benefits associated with advanced health care, but little impact on homosexual and women's rights. A theocratic shift in government could have an impact on things like homosexual and women's rights but little impact on health care. All in all, I am cautiously optimistic with the current trends. I am even comfortable with the trend towards questioning some of the practices that we have historically justified through our various religions. I realize that some are not happy with this trend but if a societal practice can't stand up to scrutiny then it probably should be discarded. It was through this examination that we realized that it was unacceptable to discriminate against someone simply because of the gender they are or the gender they are sexually attracted to.Brother Brian
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EDTA, I am not so sure technology is getting better in some respects. Likewise, I am concerned about monopolistic practices and censorship of dominant tech companies. For example though I started with Apple Macs I will never use an Apple product again. Similarly, given the rise of enabled mobs, I have cause to pull from someone who I do not like but who has dealt with this. While some social, economic and health trends are going in a good direction, the simple fact that so many refuse to see how we are enabling the ongoing worst holocaust in history is already enough to utterly condemn this age as a dark time. That points to serious worldviews and cultural agenda breakdowns, which is the focus of the OP and leads to finding the right sort of voices to lead the way forward. You are right to target the pointlessness of radical secularism and linked consumerist culture. Those are built in from the roots of the worldview. Likewise, the undermining of moral government. And as those things are discounted, many do not see their implications even as we are busily eating out the moral fabric of our civilisation. Worse, some suggest that that concern indicates you are a Nazi or the like. (The first political view I acquired, literally at mother's knee, was anti-Nazism.) We are eating up cultural capital and the moral framework of our civilisation. We refuse to see where that predictably ends. And if one dares to draw on treasures of history bought at bitter price, the dismissal almost writes itself: too LONG, didn't read. No time or energy to read and reflect on lessons paid for with blood and tears. Lessons so key that that is why for 2,000 years our civilisation turned away from democracy. Lessons that are vital to stabilising democratic governance and so also government in our day. Telling, KF PS: One of those TL;DR lessons we neglect at peril, from Plato's greatest work, The Republic:
It is not too hard to figure out that our civilisation is in deep trouble and is most likely headed for shipwreck. (And of course, that sort of concern is dismissed as “apocalyptic,” or neurotic pessimism that refuses to pause and smell the roses.) Plato’s Socrates spoke to this sort of situation, long since, in the ship of state parable in The Republic, Bk VI:
>>[Soc.] I perceive, I said, that you are vastly amused at having plunged me into such a hopeless discussion; but now hear the parable, and then you will be still more amused at the meagreness of my imagination: for the manner in which the best men are treated in their own States is so grievous that no single thing on earth is comparable to it; and therefore, if I am to plead their cause, I must have recourse to fiction, and put together a figure made up of many things, like the fabulous unions of goats and stags which are found in pictures. Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain [–> often interpreted, ship’s owner] who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. [= The people own the community and in the mass are overwhelmingly strong, but are ill equipped on the whole to guide, guard and lead it] The sailors are quarrelling with one another about the steering – every one is of opinion that he has a right to steer [= selfish ambition to rule and dominate], though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces any one who says the contrary. They throng about the captain, begging and praying him to commit the helm to them [–> kubernetes, steersman, from which both cybernetics and government come in English]; and if at any time they do not prevail, but others are preferred to them, they kill the others or throw them overboard [ = ruthless contest for domination of the community], and having first chained up the noble captain’s senses with drink or some narcotic drug [ = manipulation and befuddlement, cf. the parable of the cave], they mutiny and take possession of the ship and make free with the stores; thus, eating and drinking, they proceed on their voyage in such a manner as might be expected of them [–> Cf here Luke’s subtle case study in Ac 27]. Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out of the captain’s hands into their own whether by force or persuasion [–> Nihilistic will to power on the premise of might and manipulation making ‘right’ ‘truth’ ‘justice’ ‘rights’ etc], they compliment with the name of sailor, pilot, able seaman, and abuse the other sort of man, whom they call a good-for-nothing; but that the true pilot must pay attention to the year and seasons and sky and stars and winds, and whatever else belongs to his art, if he intends to be really qualified for the command of a ship, and that he must and will be the steerer, whether other people like or not-the possibility of this union of authority with the steerer’s art has never seriously entered into their thoughts or been made part of their calling. Now in vessels which are in a state of mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot be regarded? Will he not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing? [Ad.] Of course, said Adeimantus. [Soc.] Then you will hardly need, I said, to hear the interpretation of the figure, which describes the true philosopher in his relation to the State[ --> here we see Plato's philosoppher-king emerging]; for you understand already. [Ad.] Certainly. [Soc.] Then suppose you now take this parable to the gentleman who is surprised at finding that philosophers have no honour in their cities; explain it to him and try to convince him that their having honour would be far more extraordinary. [Ad.] I will. [Soc.] Say to him, that, in deeming the best votaries of philosophy to be useless to the rest of the world, he is right; but also tell him to attribute their uselessness to the fault of those who will not use them, and not to themselves. The pilot should not humbly beg the sailors to be commanded by him –that is not the order of nature; neither are ‘the wise to go to the doors of the rich’ –the ingenious author of this saying told a lie –but the truth is, that, when a man is ill, whether he be rich or poor, to the physician he must go, and he who wants to be governed, to him who is able to govern. The ruler who is good for anything ought not to beg his subjects to be ruled by him [ --> down this road lies the modern solution: a sound, well informed people will seek sound leaders, who will not need to manipulate or bribe or worse, and such a ruler will in turn be checked by the soundness of the people, cf. US DoI, 1776]; although the present governors of mankind are of a different stamp; they may be justly compared to the mutinous sailors, and the true helmsmen to those who are called by them good-for-nothings and star-gazers. [Ad.] Precisely so, he said. [Soc] For these reasons, and among men like these, philosophy, the noblest pursuit of all, is not likely to be much esteemed by those of the opposite faction; not that the greatest and most lasting injury is done to her by her opponents, but by her own professing followers, the same of whom you suppose the accuser to say, that the greater number of them are arrant rogues, and the best are useless; in which opinion I agreed [--> even among the students of the sound state (here, political philosophy and likely history etc.), many are of unsound motivation and intent, so mere education is not enough, character transformation is critical]. [Ad.] Yes. [Soc.] And the reason why the good are useless has now been explained? [Ad.] True. [Soc.] Then shall we proceed to show that the corruption of the majority is also unavoidable, and that this is not to be laid to the charge of philosophy any more than the other? [Ad.] By all means. [Soc.] And let us ask and answer in turn, first going back to the description of the gentle and noble nature.[ -- > note the character issue] Truth, as you will remember, was his leader, whom he followed always and in all things [ --> The spirit of truth as a marker]; failing in this, he was an impostor, and had no part or lot in true philosophy [--> the spirit of truth is a marker, for good or ill] . . . >>
(There is more than an echo of this in Acts 27, a real world case study. [Luke, a physician, was an educated Greek with a taste for subtle references.] This blog post, on soundness in policy, will also help)
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To our optimists out there, I would agree that things dependent on technology are getting better all the time. And some social trends are going in the right direction. But note two characteristics: 1) Technology is a double-edged sword, and the sharper edge is owned by the government (because they can afford more of it and it scales super-linearly as more of it is owned), and the largest businesses (because they are better at developing more of it). Governments can turn evil overnight, with large businesses always right behind them. 2) Societal trends such as lower crime, less persecution, less discrimination, and so on can change overnight if societal conditions change. With the internet, I dare say a group could be oppressed in 1% of the time it took the Nazis to begin oppressing the Jews. In other words, none of the trends cited are the least bit resistant to sudden reversal, or in the case of technology, to being turned against the people. We need to be focused on the foundational things that prevent good trends from sudden reversals. *More than ever in the West's history, we lack vision: we have no higher purpose beyond just having a good time until we die. We lack a relatively common moral foundation: it's fine to have diversity when it comes to problem solving, but moral diversity beyond a point guarantees only conflict. We lack unity, and will no longer pull in one direction when that is needed. We are losing the values that make for a strong society (honesty and trust, investment in social capital, duty and responsibility, self-sufficiency, etc.) Those things aren't superficial; you can't explain them in a tweet. In fact, most people don't even grasp that such things are foundational. They are no longer understood, valued or taught to a large segment of society. Therefore, all the good trends mentioned exist on a foundation of sand--nothing solid underneath them to maintain them. *Of course there are many people who do understand and value such things, but there are not enough of them.EDTA
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Brother Brian:
you keep harping on the abortion numbers, completely ignoring that they are precipitously being reduced due to early sex education and access to birth control.
They are worth harping on and there isn't any evidence he is ignoring anything.
Now, when you combine that with the other trends in the western civilization you so despise, we are looking pretty damn good.
Only if you walk around with blinders on.
Walking around with an “End Is Nigh” sandwich board may express your views, but don’t be surprised when people laugh at you.
Given the number of chicken-little climate alarmists his views are the majority.ET
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hazel:
Although I am quite concerned about the incipient Fascist demagogue and his cronies in the White House.
I would be more concerned with the people who think that way. :razz:ET
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KF@6, you keep harping on the abortion numbers, completely ignoring that they are precipitously being reduced due to early sex education and access to birth control. Now, when you combine that with the other trends in the western civilization you so despise, we are looking pretty damn good. Walking around with an “End Is Nigh” sandwich board may express your views, but don’t be surprised when people laugh at you.Brother Brian
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Hazel & BB: First, I note that (pace Stalin's propaganda from the '30's) Fascism is demonstrably an ideology of the statist, politically messianistic left; the commonplace attempts to project to "the right" (often without warrant) are misdirected and in some cases are manifestly turnspeech projections. Indeed so-called "antifa" is a fairly close analogue of the brownshirts and blackshirts. Second, just the statistic of 800+ million aborted globally over 40+ years with a million more per week indelibly indicts our era as stteped in guilt of innocent blood. Third, it is quite clear that the US in particular is already in low-grade, 4th generation civil war; with street theatre stunts, media amplified agit prop, a culture of slander, cultural marxism, and lawfare. It is a lynch-pin case and the time to turn back from utter chaos is now. KFkairosfocus
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Hazel
Although I am quite concerned about the incipient Fascist demagogue and his cronies in the White House.
On the bright side, the current occupant of the puzzle factory is in his 70s and avoids vegetables and exercise, and loves fast food. The odds of him lasting to 2024 are slim.Brother Brian
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The current still rises! ... he notes, in response to being informed that the voltage is falling. How very droll. I don't know why otherwise astute people insist on blinding themselves to the reality of time lags between causes and effects, especially in human affairs, but it's so ubiquitous as to be epidemic.ScuzzaMan
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Although I am quite concerned about the incipient Fascist demagogue and his cronies in the White House. :-(hazel
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I believe the reports that say crime has been dropping for decades, infant mortality has decreased, life expectancy has increased, quality of life for the elderly has increased, access to medical care and medicine has increased, the quality of medical care and medicine has increased, unwanted pregnancies and abortions are decreasing, persecution and oppression of minorities has decreased, access to knowledge and information has increased, opportunities for women, minorities and homosexuals has increased, discrimination under the false colour of religious freedom has decreased, and cars are more reliable. I think the future looks pretty damn good.Brother Brian
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Breaking out of our present peril (and, whose report should we believe?)kairosfocus
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