From +plus Living Mathematics:
Organisms — humans, animals and arguably even plants — have a striking ability to predict what their environment might throw at them. They use information from the past to respond to cues in the world and learn from surprises, meaning that when they encounter similar situations again in the future, they can act faster and more appropriately. In fact, this so-called predictive inference is such an important skill that it helps organisms to stay alive. But Susanne Still and Gavin Crooks think that this ability might also hold the key to understanding how all types of living systems behave efficiently in the natural world — perhaps with a little help from quantum information processing. Their work may even reshape how we think about life itself.
The idea that living organisms use predictive inference to help them perform better in the future is relatively straightforward to grasp. A more radical notion is that this process might also be present at much smaller scales, down to the molecular complexes that perform specific tasks within the cells of living organisms, or the “machinery of life” as Still, an information and computer scientist at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, refers to them. “Bio-molecular machines are the building blocks of our cells and there is evidence that they operate at very high energetic efficiency,” says Still.
Where does this efficiency come from? More.
Good question. Glad someone is asking.
This may or may not be the right direction but it sure beats Darwindunit: “Here’s the court order,” and forced funding of fake embryo drawings.
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Wow, did not see the word “evolution” anywhere in this paper on how life works. Real Science. No magic.
as to:
Not only is there quantum information/entanglement involved in how molecular machines operate,,,
,,,But there is also now found to be quantum information/entanglement involved in how proteins fold and operate and how DNA repairs itself and operates.
First, it is important to learn that ‘non-local’, beyond space and time, quantum entanglement (A. Aspect, A. Zeilinger, etc..) can be used as a ‘quantum information channel’,,,
The following study found both quantum and classical information to be within proteins:
The following study empirically confirmed quantum coherence to be within protein chains
here is the pre-revision paper
That proteins have ‘non-sequential’ quantum information maintaining the primary ‘form/shape’ of a protein as it operates, (information that resides ‘holistically’, as opposed to discretely and/or classically, along the entirety of the protein chain), was also demonstrated by the following study:
It is also important to note the type of computation that quantum computation excels at compared to classical computation.
Quantum computation excels at the ‘traveling salesman problems’ type of computations:
‘Traveling salesman problems’ are notorious for keeping classical supercomputers busy for days, and are ‘Just about the meanest problems you can set a computer (on)’.
Moreover, the mystery of how a protein folds is a ‘traveling salesman’ type problem:
Protein folding is found to be ‘NP-complete’
Protein folding is now empirically confirmed to belong to the world of quantum information, not to the world of classical information.
Thus we have very good evidence that proteins are finding their final folded form by some method of quantum computation. ,,,,
Of note, as is usual with findings in molecular biology, this far exceeds anything man has yet accomplished in regards to quantum computation although billions of dollars have been spent trying to build quantum computers!
As well, quantum information/entanglement has now been found in both DNA and protein molecules:
Another monster type ‘traveling salesman problem’ is encountered in DNA repair:
DNA repair machines ‘Fixing every pothole in America before the next rush hour’ is obviously a monster traveling salesman type problem.
Since it is obvious that there is not a material CPU (central processing unit) in the DNA, or cell, busily computing answers to this monster logistic problem, in a purely ‘material/classical’ fashion, by crunching bits, then it is readily apparent that this monster ‘traveling salesman problem’, for DNA repair, is must be computed (and implemented) by some method ‘non-local’ quantum computation within the cell and/or within DNA.
Besides DNA repair, I hold that quantum information is also heavily implicated in how DNA operates in its ‘normal’ operation:
That level of operational organizational complexity in DNA simply trounces, by many orders of magnitude, anything man has ever built.
Moreover, that ‘non-local’ quantum entanglement, which conclusively demonstrates that ‘information’ in its ‘quantum form’ is completely transcendent of any time and space constraints (Bell, Aspect, Leggett, Zeilinger, etc..), should be found in molecular biology on such a massive scale, in every DNA and protein molecule, is a direct empirical falsification of Darwinian claims, for how can the ‘non-local’, beyond space and time, quantum entanglement ‘effect’ in biology possibly be explained by a material (matter/energy) cause when the quantum entanglement effect falsified material particles as its own causation in the first place?
Appealing to the probability of various ‘random’ configurations of material particles, as Darwinism does, simply will not help since a timeless/spaceless cause must be supplied which is beyond the capacity of the material particles themselves to supply!
In other words, to give a coherent explanation for an effect that is shown to be completely independent of any time and space constraints one is forced to appeal to a cause that is itself not limited to time and space! i.e. Put more simply, you cannot explain a effect by a cause that has been falsified by the very same effect you are seeking to explain! Improbability arguments of various ‘special’ configurations of material particles, which have been a staple of the arguments against neo-Darwinism, simply do not apply since the cause is not within the material particles in the first place!
And although Naturalists have proposed various, far fetched, naturalistic scenarios to try to get around the Theistic implications of quantum non-locality, none of the ‘far fetched’ naturalistic solutions, in themselves, are compatible with the reductive materialism that undergirds neo-Darwinian thought.
Thus, as far as empirical science itself is concerned, Neo-Darwinism is falsified in its claim that all information in biology is ‘emergent’ from a reductive material basis.
Besides providing direct empirical falsification of neo-Darwinian claims as to the generation of information, the implication of finding ‘non-local’, beyond space and time, and ‘conserved’ quantum information in molecular biology on a massive scale is fairly, and pleasantly, obvious:
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Checkpoints and Repair Systems as Evidence for Design – July 10, 2015
Excerpt: As we see, living cells employ forward-thinking and backward-thinking strategies. Both strategies require planning outside the immediate situation; they have to “know” the consequences of not meeting requirements or allowing defects to go uncorrected.,,,
Be it a Rube Goldberg machine or robotic assembly line, any process involving a sequence of events that must occur without error to succeed we know from experience involved planning by a mind….
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2.....97611.html
podcast – Dolphins’ Sonar Systems and Illustra Documentary Living Waters
In this episode of ID the Future, hear about dolphins’ unique sonar systems, as highlighted in Dr. Geoffrey Simmons’ book, Billions of Missing Links.
http://www.discovery.org/multi.....ng-waters/
Why should quantum information processing be restricted to animals?
Its not predictive inference. its just plain memory. The memory is not seen for its power in biology still these days.
Interesting research, as far as I can tell. Not seeing anything that contradicts evolution or how the question of Haeckel’s embryo drawings is related.
Seversky @9
Nothing contradicts evolution, seen as an ‘all inclusive’ idea.
BTW, would you mind answering the questions @2 in the following link? Thanks.
http://www.uncommondescent.com.....ent-571807
The study does not contradict evolution because evolution is off the table. NS & RM are irrelevant. They are not needed to explain how life obtains its complexity. You can be sure the next step in their funded study will NOT be watching E. coli for 30 years lol.
“Still and Crooks have now won a grant of almost $130,000 from the Foundational Questions Institute to find out whether their ideas are right. A major aim of their project is to find out whether systems can do better in terms of energy efficiency if they are capable of using predictive inference. “We want to look at whether the machinery of life can do something that smart on every scale,” says Still. “If so, is predictive inference one of the things that distinguishes the machinery of life? That would be a fascinating insight.”””
Predictive inference? At bio machinery level?
Predictive inference is math speak for “guided evolution” isn’t it? Should be an interesting and important study. From Math People – who “don’t understand evolution”.
ppolish @11
Where is that explanation? Has anyone seen it?
There are propositions, suggestions, speculations, but no comprehensive coherent explanation that can pass the fundamental tests “where’s the beef?” and “show me the money!” 🙂
ppolish @12
Yes, can’t wait to see their results, which probably will shed more light on the elaborate molecular and cellular choreographies orchestrated within the biological systems. Outstanding questions will get answered, new questions will get raised.
URotUR 🙂