But then many have argued that there is hardly anything natural selection can’t do:
A far-right member of the Polish parliament Janusz Korwin-Mikke said last week that pogroms against Jews had been of benefit to the Jewish people since through it winnowed out the weak in Jewish society through natural selection.
Korwin-Mikke, a leading member of a coalition of far-right parties called Confederation, Liberty and Independence, was speaking on a news program on the Polish Polsat TV channel last Thursday about the effects of the coronavirus epidemic.
During his interview Korwin-Mikke said that there was an upside to coronavirus because it was eradicating the weak through natural selection and improving humanity’s gene pool.
Jeremy Sharon, “Polish MP says pogroms were good for Jews, assisted natural selection” at Jerusalem Post
One would be glad to hear that this is fake news but the history of popular cultural Darwinism means that it could well be genuine. Remember eugenics.
Meantime, Korwin-Mikke has said other things consistent with this view:
Propagating antisemitism. A new low for UD. Tisk, tisk.
Saying that UD is propagating antisemitism is a new low for Pater Kimbridge.
Hitler was a pious darwinist. He understood what the evolutionist doctrine entails.
And by the way, what does it mean being a ‘woman’ today? And a ‘man’? What if the polish MP says he feels ‘like a girl’? Fluid and all that. No one has the right to discriminate!
Pater Kimbridge
Are you insane?
I’m just curious because no part of this is propagating anti-Semitism
It is the exact opposite and is showing that Darwinism promotes it
There are hundreds of posts about this!
Exactly that’s making the claim that Darwinism promotes this type of crap
This is an example of it
Where do get off say UD is promoting it.
Are you trying to be the first one to post so you can create a narrative to make it look like we’re trying to do that because that’s called slander
Creating a false narrative so you could save your Darwinian evolution from looking like the monster that it really is
@5 AaronS1978:
Pater Kimbridge does not understand the things he reads.
AaronS1978
I agree. This post is not suggesting that UD is supporting anti-Semitism.
Now you are making a similar false accusation that you accused PK of making. Darwinism does not promote anything. That would be like claiming that physics promotes nuclear weapons, or microbiology promotes germ warfare, or chemistry promotes the use of Sarin gas.
Nope just mad at pk and took it to the other extreme
AaronS1978, not a problem. We all let our demons get a hold of us on occasion.
Ed George, 7:
Agreed. Nicely put.
Survival of the fittest. There isn’t any God worth having, ie atheism. No ultimate foundation for ethics exists. No free will. No ultimate purpose exists Those parts in italics come from Will Provine
JVL:
And obviously wrong.
@11 ET:
Nicely put.
-Just a correction: temporary survival for NO reason. No goal. No purpose. Nothing matters and stuff happens.
Ed George claims that,
But alas Darwinism, as a atheistic theory of origins that falsely claims to be the supposed unquestionable ‘scientific explanation’ for every facet of human behavior, the theory certainly has implications that go far beyond its scope as a supposed inert ‘scientific theory’ and has definitely been used to promote an amoral atheistic worldview that has had horrid consequences for societies at large.
Karl Marx, for whom ‘Marxism’ itself is named. was deeply influenced by Darwin. He stated to Engles, ““This (Origin of Species) is the book which contains the basis in natural history for our view.”
In fact, Lenin kept a little statue of an ape staring at a human skull on his desk. The ape was sitting on a pile of books which included Darwin’s book, “Origin”.
Here is a picture of what the little statue on Lenin’s desk looked like:
Stalin likewise, while at ecclesiastical school of all places, was also heavily influenced by Darwinism,
Chairman Mao was also deeply influenced by Darwinian ‘morality’:
Adolph Hitler himself stated, ““The law of selection exists in the world, and the stronger and healthier has received from nature the right to live. Woe to anyone who is weak, who does not stand his ground! He may not expect help from anyone.”
If someone needs to believe in a mythical being to convince themselves that their is some meaning and purpose to their life, then go for it if it makes you happy. I guess I am just one of those lucky ones who has no problem bringing meaning and purpose to my life.
Looks like little Eddie got butthurt. And in his desperation erected a strawman to attack. Then Eddie reassures us that little minds are quite content with their local context.
Bravo
@16 Ed George
If someone needs to believe in Universes that create themselves for *NO* reason because thinking you are some monkey’s cousin is good enough for you and reality is complex (why bother), while you cling to a self-refuting and illogical philosophy as materialism is to comfort yourself… then do not count with me.
TF
Trust me, I won’t. I prefer to count on people who can string a logical sentence together without an insult (eg AaronS1978). You and Joe simply don’t qualify.
Hitler found a meaning to his life. And Mao Zedong. And Pol Pot. And Stalin. Each brain chemistry is different, ‘nature’ does not care one way or the other. Bad and good are hominid hallucinations. It’s fermions and bosons doing their dance, baby.
No winners, no losers. Just dance.
@18 Ed George
Darwinism IS an insult to humanity. And when you are confronted with its undeniable truths,you get angry and hurt.
I did not insult anyone.
– We are related to monkeys.
– Reality is complex.
– Materialism is dogmatic and illogical.
– The Universe requires an explanation.
Count on me if you prefer. But being a meat puppet with no free will is hard. My fingers typed it without permission.
Poor Darwinist doesn’t even understand what he is talking about:
>”…Janusz Korwin-Mikke said last week that pogroms against Jews had been of benefit to the Jewish people since through it winnowed out the weak in Jewish society through natural selection.”
That would be _artificial_ selection, and it had nothing to do with which Jews were weakest in any sense of the word. They were just rounded up and shipped to the death camps en masse. If anything, the most threatening, strong and independent-thinking would have been most feared by the Nazis.
Astute observations are not insults. I treat Eddie with all due respect. 😛
Oh well. It is possible that Pater Kimbridge hit the Post Comment key without reading the OP. Not a recommended practice.
It should serve as a caution about “natural selection” that it can be used – quite sincerely, we suspect, in the case identified in the OP – to demonstrate anything, even the alleged social benefit of anti-Semitism.