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About Those Biological “Laws” and the Size of the Universe

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According to Steven Dick, our chairman of astrobiology at the Library of Congress, the universe is too big and too vast for life not to exist somewhere else. As heexplained this week, “I think the underlying principle is, the laws of physics and biology are universal.” There’s only one problem: If the laws of biology are universal then size doesn’t matter. You see …  Read more

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Dr. Hugh Ross appeared on Fox News this morning with Lauren Green to discuss Science and the Book of Genesis. http://video.foxnews.com/v/3633724402001/does-science-support-the-book-of-genesis/#sp=show-bornagain77
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OT: The Complexity of God's Creation - Dr. Hugh Ross on John Ankerberg - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS8lJiJ6Jhgbornagain77
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The numbers coming from origin of life research are simply astronomical. Even the low end estimate coming from a 'third way' Darwinist is gargantuan,,,
Eugene Koonin http://www.thethirdwayofevolution.com/people/view/eugene-koonin General and Special Evidence for Intelligent Design in Biology: - The requirements for the emergence of a primitive, coupled replication-translation system, which is considered a candidate for the breakthrough stage in this paper, are much greater. At a minimum, spontaneous formation of: - two rRNAs with a total size of at least 1000 nucleotides - ~10 primitive adaptors of ~30 nucleotides each, in total, ~300 nucleotides - at least one RNA encoding a replicase, ~500 nucleotides (low bound) is required. In the above notation, n = 1800, resulting in E less than 10^-1018. That is, the chance of life occurring by natural processes is 1 in 10 followed by 1018 zeros. (Koonin's intent was to show that short of postulating a multiverse of an infinite number of universes (Many Worlds), the chance of life occurring on earth is vanishingly small.) http://www.conservapedia.com/General_and_Special_Evidence_for_Intelligent_Design_in_Biology
10^-1018 greatly outstrips the probabilistic resources of the universe since the universe 'only' has 10^80 sub-atomic particles in it. And that is the low end 'conservative' estimate from a Darwinist who 'cut corners' to get to his 1 in 10^1018 number. Numbers which take into consideration realistic concerns are far worse for those who would prefer life to be purely naturalistic in its origin (i.e. atheists):
Signature in the Cell - Book Review - Ken Peterson Excerpt: If we assume some minimally complex cell requires 250 different proteins then the probability of this arrangement happening purely by chance is one in 10 to the 164th multiplied by itself 250 times or one in 10 to the 41,000th power. http://www.spectrummagazine.org/reviews/book_reviews/2009/10/06/signature_cell
Professor Harold Morowitz shows the Origin of Life 'problem' escalates dramatically over the 1 in 10^40,000 figure when working from a thermodynamic perspective,:
"The probability for the chance of formation of the smallest, simplest form of living organism known is 1 in 10^340,000,000. This number is 10 to the 340 millionth power! The size of this figure is truly staggering since there is only supposed to be approximately 10^80 (10 to the 80th power) electrons in the whole universe!" (Professor Harold Morowitz, Energy Flow In Biology pg. 99, Biophysicist of George Mason University) “The statistical probability that organic structures and the most precisely harmonized reactions that typify living organisms would be generated by accident, is zero.” Ilya Prigogine, Gregoire Nicolis, and Agnes Babloyantz, Physics Today 25, pp. 23-28.
Dr. Morowitz did another probability calculation working from the thermodynamic perspective with a already existing cell and came up with this number:
DID LIFE START BY CHANCE? Excerpt: Molecular biophysicist, Horold Morowitz (Yale University), calculated the odds of life beginning under natural conditions (spontaneous generation). He calculated, if one were to take the simplest living cell and break every chemical bond within it, the odds that the cell would reassemble under ideal natural conditions (the best possible chemical environment) would be one chance in 10^100,000,000,000. You will have probably have trouble imagining a number so large, so Hugh Ross provides us with the following example. If all the matter in the Universe was converted into building blocks of life, and if assembly of these building blocks were attempted once a microsecond for the entire age of the universe. Then instead of the odds being 1 in 10^100,000,000,000, they would be 1 in 10^99,999,999,916 (also of note: 1 with 100 billion zeros following would fill approx. 20,000 encyclopedias) http://members.tripod.com/~Black_J/chance.html Punctured cell will never reassemble - Jonathan Wells - 2:40 mark of video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKoiivfe_mo
This following video gives a good illustration of how minuscule these probabilities are:
Programming of Life - Probability of a Cell Evolving - Ch. 10 - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyTUSe99z6o
Perhaps its time to wake up and look somewhere else for the source of all life rather than dirt? Verses, Video, and Music
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Acts 2:24 But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. In The Presence Of Almighty God - The NDE of Mickey Robinson https://vimeo.com/92172680 Creed - My Own Prison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBBqjGd3fHQ
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