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Walter Bradley and Casey Luskin write:

Major scientific magazines and journals often feature articles on the “Biggest Unsolved Mysteries in Science”1 — and the origin of life is almost always on that list, sometimes as the number one mystery.2 In this and coming posts we will explore key challenges to a natural, chemical origin of life. We’ll examine the formation of the essential functional polymers of life — proteins, DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid), and RNA (ribonucleic acid). How might these extraordinarily complex molecules have formed in oceans, lakes, or ponds from simple, naturally occurring molecular building blocks like sugars and amino acids? What is life? How does it operate? Could life originate by strictly natural means?

Three Scientific Discoveries

Darwin’s theory of evolution and the development of the second law of thermodynamics by Boltzmann and Gibbs are two of the three major scientific discoveries of the 19th century. Maxwell’s field equations for electricity and magnetism are the third. The second law of thermodynamics has had a unifying effect in the physical sciences much like the theory of evolution has had in the life sciences. What is intriguing is that the predictions of one seem to contradict the predictions of the other. The grand story of evolution teaches that living systems have generally moved from simpler to more complex over time.3 The second law of thermodynamics teaches just the opposite, a progression from order to disorder, from complexity to simplicity in the physical universe. Your garden and your house, left to themselves, go from order to disorder. But you can restore the order if you do the necessary work. In the winter, when it is cold, the interior of your house will gradually drop in temperature toward the outside temperature. But a gas heater can reverse this process by converting the chemical energy in natural gas into thermal energy in the house. 

True Everywhere in Life

This simple analogy illustrates what is true of all living systems: they can only live by having access to energy and a means of converting this energy into the alternative forms of energy or work required to oppose the pull toward thermodynamic equilibrium, from complexity to simplicity. Living systems are much more complex than nonliving systems. Like a lawnmower with gasoline as a source of energy and an engine to convert that energy into movement of a blade to cut the grass, living systems must have access to sources of energy and systems to convert the energy into the needs of plants and animals.

Nonliving objects in nature exist without any complex functional systems or any energy flow requirements. They are generally made of simple crystalline or amorphous materials.

The second law of thermodynamics is a law of nature (like gravity, everyone is subject to it). Living plants and animals can survive only with energy flowing through their systems. Nonliving objects such as mountains, rocks, sand, rivers, and soil have no need for energy flow, nor do they have the complexity to utilize energy toward some goal. 

To Utilize and Store Energy

To summarize, plants can utilize solar energy to levitate above thermodynamic equilibrium. Nonliving objects such as mountains, oceans, rocks, sand, and soil have no need for such complexity; they do not store chemical energy like plants do; nor can they process solar or other forms of energy. Living matter is much more complex (e.g., RNA, DNA, protein, etc.), needing as it does to be able to utilize and store available energy from the sun or from the consumption of plants and animals. 

Notes

  1. See for example Ronak Gupta, “The 7 biggest unsolved mysteries in science,” Digit (May 26, 2015), https://www.digit.in/features/general/7-greatest-unsolved-problems-in-science-26132.html (accessed November 18, 2020).
  2. See for example Philip Ball, “10 Unsolved Mysteries in Chemistry,” Scientific American (October 2011), https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/10-unsolved-mysteries/ (accessed November 18, 2020).
  3. Technically the official line from neo-Darwinian evolutionists is that evolution knows nothing of “progress” and does not necessarily move from “simple to more complex.” Nonetheless, it is also true that the grand arc of the evolutionary story moves from simpler organisms toward more complex ones. In this evolutionary story, biological and organic systems began with a single self-replicating molecule and ended up at us. Evolutionary theorists sometimes try to trivialize this clear progression by calling it “bouncing off the lower wall of complexity,” but it cannot be denied that their story entails a march towards greater complexity. See for example Stephen Jay Gould, Full House: The Spread of Excellence from Plato to Darwin (New York: Three Rivers, 1996). 

Full article at Evolution News.

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AF, pre biotic building blocks are not all of chemical evolution, they are a part, you are using a failed of exact equivalence symbol, KF PS, on Chemical evolution: https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/news/chemical-evolution-and-the-origins-of-life/
[NASA] Research Highlight Chemical Evolution and the Origins of Life [Aug. 28, 2020] The topic of chemical evolution and the origins of life is a primary focus of astrobiology, and is an essential part of understanding life’s origins on Earth and the potential for life beyond our planet. These studies cross disciplines, from prebiotic chemistry to astrophysics, and are relevant to fields that cover the breadth of research funded by the NASA Astrobiology Program. The journal Chemical Reviews has published a thematic issue dedicated to ‘Chemical Evolution and the Origins of Life,’ which provides a resource concerning the current state-of-the-art in origins research. The issue includes numerous contributions from researchers supported by the NASA Astrobiology Program, with Nicholas Hud (Georgia Institute of Technology) and Ramanarayanan Krishnamurthy (Scripps Research Institute) serving as editors. The special edition discusses research regarding the inventory of elements and molecules on young planets that can self-assemble into systems that evolve into what could be considered life. The issue covers current understanding in a variety of topics, as well as unsolved problems and challenges as researchers address the question, “Can the origins of life be demonstrated or understood experimentally?”
Of course, the list of begged questions and a priori ideological impositions is long, as is the want of substantial evidence for spontaneous origin of cell based life. And there is a subtle attempt to redefine both life and evolution. BTW, August 2020 by any reasonable standard is current, especially regarding a core matter for a significant research focus for NASA so the outdated vocab trick fails. Notice, a primary focus of NASA's Astrobiology Program. Apollo was a Program. More can be said. KFkairosfocus
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You are a loser – your “original point” in fact was that you had never heard of chemical evolution. Strike one. Your next point was that (though you never heard about it) you asserted that the concept is not used today! Strike two.
I hadn't heard the term "chemical evolution" before. And that is because "chemical evolution" is not a concept in current use by biologists or biochemists working today and that includes Jack Szostak. Evolution (in the biological sense) assumes self-sustaining self-replicators. Origin-of-life hypotheses cannot use the concept of selection in pre-biotic conditions so evolution, biological or chemical does not feature. By all means carry on claiming apples are oranges.Alan Fox
September 23, 2022
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Belfast, strike 5 is trying to suggest in teeth of correction that R/DNA does not have coded algorithmic information, an antecedent of proper protein synthesis and so too of metabolism and self replication. I have drawn attention to a famous textbook Lehninger, in correction:
"The information in DNA is encoded in its linear (one-dimensional) sequence of deoxyribonucleotide subunits . . . . A linear sequence of deoxyribonucleotides in DNA codes (through an intermediary, RNA) for the production of a protein with a corresponding linear sequence of amino acids . . . Although the final shape of the folded protein is dictated by its amino acid sequence, the folding of many proteins is aided by “molecular chaperones” . . . The precise three-dimensional structure, or native conformation, of the protein is crucial to its function." [Principles of Biochemistry, 8th Edn, 2021, pp 194 – 5. Now authored by Nelson, Cox et al, Lehninger having passed on in 1986. Attempts to rhetorically pretend on claimed superior knowledge of Biochemistry, that D/RNA does not contain coded information expressing algorithms using string data structures, collapse. We now have to address the implications of language, goal directed stepwise processes and underlying sophisticated polymer chemistry and molecular nanotech in the heart of cellular metabolism and replication.]
See https://uncommondescent.com/darwinist-debaterhetorical-tactics/protein-synthesis-what-frequent-objector-af-cannot-acknowledge/ KFkairosfocus
September 23, 2022
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Ha ha. Belfast finds that Jack Szostak is not using the concept "chemical evolution". "Pre-biotic building blocks" =/= "chemical evolution".Alan Fox
September 23, 2022
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You are a loser - your “original point” in fact was that you had never heard of chemical evolution. Strike one. Your next point was that (though you never heard about it) you asserted that the concept is not used today! Strike two. Your third was that (though you knew nothing about chemical evolution) you assert that Szostak and his lab were not working within the paradigm. Strike three. If you would like a strike 4 here is Szostak himself in his own bio. ‘However, in at least one way, the study of membranes composed of PREBIOTIC BUILDING BLOCKS such as fatty acids was perfect for me, since this field was filled with important yet technically addressable questions.” [Prebiotic building blocks (and fatty acids) are chemicals involved in origin of life theories] EOM.Belfast
September 23, 2022
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@ Belfast Your comment 59 adds nothing but waffle. My original point to you was that "chemical evolution” is not a thing in general and that Jack Szostak and his lab. are not using the term and the concept in particular.Alan Fox
September 22, 2022
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to relatd, for the record: Back at 43 relatd said I was confused, and that he would no longer reply to my posts, although he did reply once. The particular issue we are discussing is whether, according to Catholic doctrine, it is acceptable to believe that human beings, in respect to our physical bodies (but not our souls), are connected by common descent with previous existing creatures of human beings in respect to our physical bodies, as opposed to the alternative of special creation. In post 47 I analyzed a key passage from a 1996 document by the Pope that supports my contention that it is acceptable Catholic doctrine to accept the God-guided evolution of physical human beings as part of His all-encompassing providential role in causation. I’ve done some further research to support my position, which I offer here without much further comment. Relatd may not want to discuss this anymore, but I think I’ve established that I’m not confused. He may not agree with my analysis, nor with his fellow Catholics who support a position of what is commonly called theistic evolution, but I think I’ve shown that special creation is not the only acceptable Catholic position, and that theistic evolution is an acceptable Catholic position. 1. From the Catholic Exchange, A Brief Exploration of the Catholic Position on Evolution here John Paul II, in 1986, wrote,
”There are no difficulties in explaining the origin of man in regard to the body by means of the theory of evolution. According to the hypothesis mentioned it is possible that the human body, following the order impressed by the Creator on the energies of life, could have gradually been prepared in the form of antecedent living beings [i.e. living beings that existed prior to humanity].” John Paul II, “Humans are Spiritual and Corporeal Beings”, April 16, 1986.
2. From the article Adam, Eve, and Evolution, from Catholic Answers:
People usually take three basic positions on the origins of the cosmos, life, and man: (1) special or instantaneous creation, (2) developmental creation or theistic evolution, (3) and atheistic evolution. The first holds that a given thing did not develop, but was instantaneously and directly created by God. The second position holds that a given thing did develop from a previous state or form, but that this process was under God’s guidance. The third position claims that a thing developed due to random forces alone. .... Concerning biological evolution, the Church does not have an official position on whether various life forms developed over the course of time. However, it says that, if they did develop, then they did so under the impetus and guidance of God [theistic evolution], and their ultimate creation must be ascribed to him. Concerning human evolution, the Church has a more definite teaching. It allows for the possibility that man’s body developed from previous biological forms, under God’s guidance, but it insists on the special creation of his soul.... While the Church permits belief in either special creation or developmental creation on certain questions, it in no circumstances permits belief in atheistic evolution.
[My emphasis] 3. From CatholicBridge:, How did God create the human body and soul?
The Church does not have an official teaching on the origin of the human body. There are several faithful Catholic positions which are not contrary to Catholic theology. 1. Special creation: God directly created human beings. 2. Theistic evolution: God designs the laws of the universe, so that they will produce the human body through natural processes (like a sculptor uses a chisel as a tool to create a statue - Indirect design). 3. Intelligent design: God designs the laws of the universe and intervenes directly in histor, to create life in general and specifically the human body. A Catholic is free to believe that God formed the human body out of the dust of the earth in an instantaneous action or by a series of steps. Any of these theories may be accepted by a Catholic until God reveals to us otherwise. The important thing is the human soul. Cardinal Ratzinger who is now Pope Benedict XVI says: "We cannot say: creation or evolution, inasmuch as these two things respond to two different realities. The story of the dust of the earth and the breath of God, which we just heard, does not in fact explain how human persons come to be but rather what they are. It explains their inmost origin and casts light on the project that they are. And, vice versa, the theory of evolution seeks to understand and describe biological developments. But in so doing it cannot explain where the 'project' of human persons comes from, nor their inner origin, nor their particular nature. To that extent we are faced here with two complementary -- rather than mutually exclusive -- realities.”
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AF @48 Your ‘out-of-date’ ploy was wrong. You were wrong. No qualifications, partial restatements or interpretations can change this. You were not a tiny bit correct or adequate in a different form, or relatively valid occasionally. You were totally wrong. Now you are setting yourself up for the old, “I am still waiting for you to provide….” ploy. It doesn’t work. In Harvard’s plain man’s guide to origin of life - 2022 edition (a near copy of it 2019 edition) this appears. “life almost certainly originated in a series of small steps, each building upon the complexity that evolved previously: Simple organic molecules were formed. Simple organic molecules, similar to the nucleotide shown below, are the building blocks of life … RNA and DNA molecules — the genetic material for all life — are just long chains of simple nucleotides. Replicating molecules evolved and began to undergo natural selection.” In case you don’t know, ‘organic molecules’ are chemicals containing carbon. Nucleotides are chemicals. They are not fairy dust, or ‘information’, or alien by-products, they are chemicals. Chemical molecules that acquired the power of replication. In 2006 Harvard set aside $100,000,000 to find origin of life by natural means - the above is the natural means - chemical evolution. Szostak was later part of it and in June ‘14 predicted life in the lab in 3 to 5 years, probably 3. But Harvard is not the only one, nearly every major university has an origin of life section. Working on Darwinian principle they of (essentially) common descent they reach bacteria and archaea and presume it was organic molecules that preceded life - chemical evolution. The only game left. Now go start a vortex of clarifications and definitions and demands with some other commenter.Belfast
September 22, 2022
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I mean like massive
Oh I thought you meant massive "like huge".Alan Fox
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Genetics does produce some change but is extremely trivial compared to those seen in Evolution.
Genetics and evolution are names we give to ideas. Genetics doesn't produce change; it is the study of relationships and inheritance. Change in allele frequency produces phenotypic change in populations of organisms.Alan Fox
September 22, 2022
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Population genetics has quantified evolutionary processes
Wrong!!!
Population genetics has quantified genetic processes
Genetics does produce some change but is extremely trivial compared to those seen in Evolution.
what you mean by “massive
I mean like massive- nothing even remotely close to it in all of life except for humans. Much bigger than huge. There are reviews that list them.jerry
September 22, 2022
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Genetic similarity between humans and bonobos is powerful evidence that there’s something else at work besides genetics.
Maybe. I think cultural evolution is now a more powerful engine of change in humans than biological evolution. But perhaps you are thinking of something else.Alan Fox
September 22, 2022
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You have no clue what the differences are.
I suspect I have more of an idea than you, Jerry, based on your previous utterances.
They are massive in the expression of genes that cause neurological development.
Well, maybe, depending on what you mean by "massive".
Aside: what does genetics have to do with Evolution?
Joined at the hip since the modern synthesis. Population genetics has quantified evolutionary processes.Alan Fox
September 22, 2022
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AF @50 Genetic similarity between humans and bonobos is powerful evidence that there's something else at work besides genetics.hnorman42
September 22, 2022
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Not that different from chimps and bonobos, genetically speaking
You have no clue what the differences are. They are massive in the expression of genes that cause neurological development. Aside: what does genetics have to do with Evolution? Answer, DNA, the basics of genetics has little if anything to do with Evolution.jerry
September 22, 2022
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Jerry at 49, And what do you base that on? Galileo? Again? I am sick and tired of seeing that stupid reference. The Church does not bet. It has a deposit of faith that includes spiritual truths and truths about reality as it is. And then you post an appeal to ignorance. Very bad. "No one can know for sure how humans arrived. Just that they are incredibly different than any previous species." The Bible is right out? The Catholic Church has said nothing?relatd
September 22, 2022
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Just that they are incredibly different than any previous species.
Not that different from chimps and bonobos, genetically speakingAlan Fox
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The question of the origin of man is a silly one. The Christian God could do whatever He wanted to. He created the universe and all life. The Church is trying to avoid a Galileo episode by hedging it’s bets. No one can know for sure how humans arrived. Just that they are incredibly different than any previous species.jerry
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Now you’re gingerly feeling your way by asking how chemical evolution plays a part in “RNA world” research, which you should know is a stage in chemical evolution, if you knew anything about it.
I was offering you the option to support your claim that "chemical solution" is a thing in general and that Jack Szostak and his lab. are using the term and the concept in particular. I'm pretty sure you are mistaken.Alan Fox
September 22, 2022
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Your quote in 2 does not address whether there has been special creation or common descent of our physical being. Yes there are metaphysical interpretations that are incompatible with the Catholic faith, but that is different from the issue I am addressing. There is no doubt that there are such incompatible metaphysical interpretations, but I am not talking about those. Let me parse and comment on the following quote, which I originally posted at 23: 1.
With man, we find ourselves facing a different ontological order—an ontological leap, we could say. But in posing such a great ontological discontinuity, are we not breaking up the physical continuity which seems to be the main line of research about evolution in the fields of physics and chemistry? 
That is, the Pope asks the question: is the ontological spiritual leap to mankind incompatible with the physical continuity of the physical body, which is what research in evolution studies is about. 2.
An appreciation for the different methods used in different fields of scholarship allows us to bring together two points of view which at first might seem irreconcilable. 
The Pope says “no” to his own question. These two different points of view (a spiritual ontological leap and physical continuity via common descent) might seem irreconcilable, but they are not. 3.
The sciences of observation describe and measure, with ever greater precision, the many manifestations of life, and write them down along the time-line. The moment of passage into the spiritual realm is not something that can be observed in this way.
With ever greater precision, science has sketched a timeline of “the many manifestations of life.” The “moment of passage into the spiritual realm” is beyond the scope of science, but that doesn’t imply a break in the timeline of the physical manifestation of creatures via common descent, which is what the Pope is referring to here. I think this is a reasonable interpretation of this passage, It certainly does not make any definite statement about special creation for the physical form of mankind. I’ll repeat a question: other than these documents, to you know of any other recent documents, post 1996, that address the special creation vs common descent issue?Viola Lee
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VL at 45, You pick and choose what 'concerns' you. That is not scholarly or helpful. 1. Yes. 2. Humani Generis (1950) and Communion and Stewardship which references Humani Generis in part 64. "In continuity with previous twentieth century papal teaching on evolution (especially Pope Pius XII’s encyclical Humani Generis ), the Holy Father’s message acknowledges that there are “several theories of evolution” that are “materialist, reductionist and spiritualist” and thus incompatible with the Catholic faith." Again, you pick and choose what 'concerns' you. That is not the right way to deal with any argument. Over and out.relatd
September 22, 2022
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Interesting, relatd: instead of explaining what I am confused about and what you think is the correct description, you just bow out of the discussion. Two questions, which don't involve my confusion, but rather ask you to clarify what the correct position is: 1. Do you believe that mankind, via the first man Adam, was created by special creation, with no biological continuity (no common descent) with any other creatures? Simple yes or no, unless you'd want to qualify your answer. 2. Is it established Catholic doctrine that mankind, via the first man Adam, was created by special creation, with no biological continuity (no common descent) with any other creatures? If so, can you point to any recent documents that describe that as the Catholic position?Viola Lee
September 22, 2022
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CD at 42, Faith based statements. Natural here means non-God. In my view, the Discovery Institute is doing better than natural science.relatd
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VL at 34, You are confused. I will no longer reply to your posts.relatd
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Caspian/26
Any “as-yet-unknown explanation” for the origin of life cannot contradict already established principles of how nature works.
This is not necessarily true. "Established principles" are always subject to revision and, in some instances, displacement by newly discovered principles or evidence; what Thomas Kuhn describes as a paradigm shift. Sometimes that shift modifies or subsumes "established principles" such as relativity subsuming Newtonian mechanics. Sometimes newly discovered principles or evidence contradict and replace "established principles" as when heliocentricity completely up ended geocentricity or germ theory up ended demonic possession or "ill vapors" as the cause of disease. Or the round earth replaced the flat one. The history of science is replete with the bones of "established principles" just as evolution is replete with the bones of our forebearers. The history of science is also replete with deniers that reject newly established principles, like flat earthers or young earth creationists or germ theory deniers, etc.
Granted, we don’t know how a designer could have made living systems, but our knowledge of the natural world argues that life could not have arisen naturally. Sure, we don’t want to unnecessarily jump to a “God did it” conclusion, but when the evidence from our study of nature points in that direction, who’s to say that it’s unreasonable to believe it?
It may not be an unreasonable "belief" from a psychological standpoint, but it is not reasonable from a scientific perspective. In fact, from a scientific perspective, belief shouldn't even be a factor. So long as natural explanations for phenomena are not impossible, they cannot be ruled out nor ignored. "[O]ur knowledge of the natural world argues that life could not have arisen naturally." (Emphasis added) There is a difference between evidence and argument, just like there is a difference between probabilities, possibilities and certainty. And, as you yourself point out, "we don’t want to unnecessarily jump to a 'God did it' conclusion." Yet, that is precisely what many members of the Discovery Institute have done. To them, this is a closed book, they purport to have found what they were looking for--the Christian God at the end of their chain of causation......chuckdarwin
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You wanted to support Seversky and blundered by trying the snooty, “first I ever heard of it” ploy as though you were widely read and would have expected to hear of chemical evolution if it were so. Then you got caught out, so switched and used the “it’s out of date ploy” not realising the conflict in approach as well as confirming you knew nothing about chemical evolution. Now you’re gingerly feeling your way by asking how chemical evolution plays a part in “RNA world” research, which you should know is a stage in chemical evolution, if you knew anything about it. Forget it. Next time let Seversky fight his own battles.Belfast
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I said Oparin's and Calvin's ideas are not being developed or relied on. Stostak is an impeccable scientist mentoring cutting-edge research at his lab. I've not seen any mention of Oparin, Calvin or "chemical evolution" in Szostak lab publications. Have you? Have you a citation?Alan Fox
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You don’t know what you are talking about and don’t care what you write. You originally said you had never heard of chemical evolution, now you write it’s not being done ! 1 ! There is considerable research being carried out, as just one example, at Harvard University by Nobel Laureate Professor Jack Szostak.Belfast
September 22, 2022
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Oparin raised the concept clearly over 80 years ago, and Nobel Laureate Melvin Calvin wrote “Chemical evolution: molecular evolution towards the origin of living systems on the earth and elsewhere.” about 50 years ago.
These ideas from 80 years ago and 50 years ago are not being developed or relied on these days.Alan Fox
September 22, 2022
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Catholic Church is not the true Christian Church. Study history . Catholic Church derailed from original teachings of first 7 Ecumenical Councils. Illusion was maintained mainly by its existence on western world and being very rich and powerful. Eastern Ortodox Church is the true Christian Church.
Sir Giles Positing a naturalistic origin or a Devine origin does not make it any less mysterious. Both postulates suffer from the lack of any compelling evidence, or even any plausible evidence.
Well...you seem to use reason. Reason come only from Reason not from chemicals.Lieutenant Commander Data
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