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At Mind Matters News: Harvard astronomer: Advanced aliens engineered the Big Bang

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Avi Loeb
Avi Loeb

Avi Loeb writes in Scientific American that when we humans are sufficiently advanced, we will create other universes as well:

At Scientific American, Avi Loeb, the longest-serving chair of astronomy at Harvard (2011–2020), tackles the question of what came before the Big Bang. He surveys the conventional explanations for this singularity in time and space (when all points are zero) and comes to a somewhat surprising conclusion: Creation by an alien intelligence is the best way to account for our universe:

News, “Harvard astronomer: Advanced aliens engineered the Big Bang” at Mind Matters News

Now there are a variety of conjectures in the scientific literature for our cosmic origins, including the ideas that our universe emerged from a vacuum fluctuation, or that it is cyclic with repeated periods of contraction and expansion, or that it was selected by the anthropic principle out of the string theory landscape of the multiverse—where, as the MIT cosmologist Alan Guth says “everything that can happen will happen … an infinite number of times,” or that it emerged out of the collapse of matter in the interior of a black hole.

AVI LOEB, “WAS OUR UNIVERSE CREATED IN A LABORATORY?” AT SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN (OCTOBER 15, 2021)

Whether or not we warm to his proposal, the main thing to see is that alternative — supposedly more scientific — proposals also include either philosophical assumptions or causes we cannot account for:

“our universe emerged from a vacuum fluctuation” (What caused the vacuum or the fluctuation?)

“it is cyclic with repeated periods of contraction and expansion” (in the absence of a history, how would we know that?)

“it was selected by the anthropic principle out of the string theory landscape of the multiverse” (we have no evidence for a string theory landscape or a multiverse)

or

“it emerged out of the collapse of matter in the interior of a black hole” (but how did the black hole originate?)

In short, all these claims just shove the problem of the ability to create a universe out of site or off the scene.

Loeb favors the view that the ability to create a universe includes the concentrated use of information that we associate with intelligence (which we know can create things): More:


Just about any hypothesis other than theism is okay with Scientific American. Good to know.

Takehome: Avi Loeb’s hypothesis is not logically stranger than the many hypotheses that attempt to account for the Big Bang without underlying information/intelligence.

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13 Replies to “At Mind Matters News: Harvard astronomer: Advanced aliens engineered the Big Bang

  1. 1
    martin_r says:

    So, if i am not mistaken, this guy from Harvard is a creationist, right ?

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    polistra says:

    Loeb says some sensible things, but this ain’t one of them.

    Seeing aliens as our super-leaders is just an acceptable secular version of waiting for the Messiah. We have more than enough trouble and torture from high-IQ psychopaths in positions of power. Let’s not hope for even worse leaders out there.

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    BobRyan says:

    From the OP, “Creation by an alien intelligence is the best way to account for our universe:”

    That is the ID argument. Since the universe could not have happened by chance, it must have been designed by something with far greater intellect than man. That would be God.

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    Dick says:

    G.K. Chesterton famously wrote that when men no longer believe in God they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything. Loeb’s belief in superintelligent, incredibly powerful aliens is a confirming instance of Chesterton’s claim. If he’s willing to believe in these aliens why is he unwilling, which I assume he is, to believe in God?

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    Seversky says:

    I would have asked Chesterton what is the difference between believing in God and believing in Kim Jong-un, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Mao Zhedong, Adolf Hitler, Donald Trump or any other cult leader who demands unquestioning loyalty and obedience to him personally.

  6. 6
    Seekers says:

    Seversky,

    So you wouldn’t really have anything meaningful to ask Chesterton.

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    AndyClue says:

    @Dick:

    G.K. Chesterton famously wrote that when men no longer believe in God they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.

    So G.K. Chesterton famously wrote stupid things.

    @Seversky:

    I would have asked Chesterton what is the difference between believing in God and believing in Kim Jong-un, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Mao Zhedong, Adolf Hitler, Donald Trump or any other cult leader who demands unquestioning loyalty and obedience to him personally.

    One is called theism, the other is called atheism.

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    Hanks says:

    I would have asked Chesterton what is the difference between believing in God and believing in Kim Jong-un, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Mao Zhedong, Adolf Hitler, Donald Trump or any other cult leader who demands unquestioning loyalty and obedience to him personally.

    You forgot Darwin.

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    tjguy says:

    “Loeb favors the view that the ability to create a universe includes the concentrated use of information that we associate with intelligence (which we know can create things)”

    Just classic! He’s just like Dawkins. He’s willing to ascribe intelligent design to aliens, but not to God. He doesn’t even know if aliens exist so there is really no difference in ascribing the design to God because we cannot scientifically prove His existence either.

    Like always, it simply comes down to what worldview we have chosen to believe/accept. If we choose Materialism, then the only answer permitted is Loeb’s because the existence of God would falsify the whole worldview.

    “Just about any hypothesis other than theism is okay with Scientific American.”

    So true! No bias there, right? You can believe whatever you want to about design – Anything – and it’s OK – AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INVOLVE God in the hypothesis.

    I guess the God hypothesis is too threatening for them. But attributing design to non-existent aliens is a new low for them!

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    JVL says:

    Seversky: I would have asked Chesterton what is the difference between believing in God and believing in Kim Jong-un, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Mao Zhedong, Adolf Hitler, Donald Trump or any other cult leader who demands unquestioning loyalty and obedience to him personally.

    God has more apps?

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    AndyClue says:

    @Hanks:

    You forgot Darwin.

    Where did Darwin demand unquestioning loyalty and obedience to him personally?

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    ET says:

    seversky:

    I would have asked Chesterton what is the difference between believing in God and believing in Kim Jong-un, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Mao Zhedong, Adolf Hitler, Donald Trump or any other cult leader who demands unquestioning loyalty and obedience to him personally.

    Sheer stupidity. What is wrong with you?

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    ET says:

    Darwin didn’t make such a demand but all evos make it.

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