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Barbara Forrest: Will The Real Coward Please Stand Up

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I sent the following [addresses munged to foil email address harvestors]:

From : David Springer
Sent : Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:41 AM
To : bforrest
CC : dembski, richard.dawkins, Kenneth_Miller, eugeniescott, ddennett, krauss, patricia.princehouse, pennock, welsberr, kpadian, rthompson
Subject : Debate Challenge

Dear Professor Forrest,

I wanted to make sure that you were aware that Professor Dembski has challenged you to a debate.

“Perhaps we can settle the matter of cowardice directly: let Forrest and me debate the matter at a symposium spanning a day with each of us delivering two hour-long lectures and then going toe-to-toe in a final exchange.”

Many of the commenters think you will decline but are eager to see it should you take up the challenge.. I’d like to think you are up for it. Please be so kind as to respond so I can inform our readers of your view on this matter.

Kind regards,
David Springer

I got one reply:

From : kpadian
Sent : Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:20 AM
To : “David Springer”
CC : bforrest, richard.dawkins, kenneth_miller, scott, ddennett, krauss, patricia.princehouse, pennock5, welsberr, kpadian
Subject : Re: Debate Challenge

Excuse me, but before anyone else wastes time and electrons,

As far as I can tell (I could be mistaken), “David Springer” and “DaveScot”, Dembski’s cerberus and familiar, who specializes in character assassination and slander, and strictly excludes any critical remarks from Dembski’s UD site, are apparently the same person. (Proof to the contrary would be accepted readily.)

Such people require no civil response. Dembski’s record in the Dover trial speaks for itself.


Kevin Padian
Department of Integrative Biology &
Museum of Paleontology
University of California, Berkeley CA 94720-3140
xxx-xxx-xxxx

Everyone on the address list except Wesley Elsberry received the email. I received no auto-replies saying anyone was out for the holidays. Wesley has my email address blocked. I allowed over 2 weeks for responses. I guess this settles the matter of who the coward is. Forrest is comfortable sniping at Dembski, calling HIM a coward, from the safety of a Skeptical Enquirer article but when it comes to an actual debate she’s MIA. In Texas we call people like her “All Hat and No Cattle”. In New York we’d say “All Bark and No Bite”. In any state she’s a totally gutless, craven wimp. At least Padian had the stones to order everyone else into silence.

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apollo230, You can find it here :-) It may be surprising that I have such negativity toward her, but consider what she tried to perpetrate against 2 distinguished pro-ID professors here. I consider her actions as crossing the line as far as ethics are concerned. She seems a bit too approving of the idea that ID proponents be given less than equal treatment in hiring and promotion decisions at universities. That propensity, by implication extend to students seeking jobs or diplomas. I have serious issues with that, as I consider that highly unethical and promoting the violation of civil rights.... Salvadorscordova
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On the serious side, though, practically anyone who has engaged in these evolutionary debates for any length of time has said something, somewhere, about the opposition that they later regretted (or should regret). So do not single yourself out, Sal, for any reason, for that pet name was nothing particularly unique considering the nature of this rhetorical jungle.apollo230
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Predictions are dangerous, especially when they concern the future, but this one was easy.GilDodgen
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Oops, where was that pet name, Sal? :)apollo230
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Apollo230, Thank you for the compliment. Unfortunately, as nicely as I have spoken of Eugenie Scott, I have not been so charitable with Barbara Forrest. I'm afraid she would still remember the nick name I gave her here.... Salscordova
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Dr. Padian regards you as a fairly polarizing figure, Dave. I wonder if an overture from Sal Cordova would bring him and Dr. Forrest to change their minds about this debate idea? Best regards, apollo230apollo230
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