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File:A small cup of coffee.JPG From the BBC:

The Albertan, who has a longstanding interest in fossils, was digging a basement for a new home in Calgar…

One is tempted to wonder whether the government-funded Beeb hack has any idea what digging out a basement in Calgary might even mean.

Aren’t we all eating pineapples now, instead of sweeping up our underground furnace rooms?

Whatever. Meanwhile,

“No, it hasn’t changed my mind. We all have the same evidence, and it’s just a matter of how you interpret it,” he told the paper.

“There’s no dates stamped on these things.”

But Dr Zelenitsky – while she might disagree about fossil dating – praised Mr Nernberg for his awareness of what the fossils were.

“Most people would have overlooked these – when these were uncovered, Edgar right away recognised them,” she told the paper.

“An ordinary person might have just seen blobs in the rock.”

Actually, he is not an “ordinary person”; he is an Albertan. 😉

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KF,
Then, ask how a YEC would process such, why.
"Erroneously" is my guess.daveS
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Mung, I have headlined, here: https://uncommondescent.com/design-inference/lets-discuss-elizabeth-liddle-i-do-not-think-the-id-case-holds-up-i-think-it-is-undermined-by-want-of-any-evidence-for-the-putative-designer/ KF PS: I think the focus of this thread is sufficient to not divert it; e.g. consider the discovery some years back of soft tissues in dinosaur bones and IIRC reports that these remnants, after a claimed 70 MY, still reek of death and decay. Then, ask how a YEC would process such, why.kairosfocus
May 30, 2015
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Lizzie #6, your addition didn't help at all: you are still not making any sense. This article by Vincent Torley may be a good starting point: No evidence for God’s existence, you say?Box
May 30, 2015
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In this instance, Box, no, and thus failed to spot a typo, which I have now amended:
I do not think the ID case holds up. I think it is undermined by [ETA lack of any] any evidence for the putative designer – no hypothesis about what the designer was trying to do, how she was doing it, what her capacities were, etc.
Although why this should be discussed in a thread about a fossil find in Calgary, I have no idea. If you would like to discuss it further, I warmly invite you to do so in the TSZ thread that Mung posted: the son of liddle godsElizabeth B Liddle
May 30, 2015
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Mung #3, Okay, so Elizabeth Liddle doesn't have an argument against ID. This can happen to the best of us... men & women. What is truly astounding, though, is what she can come up with. Does she read her own stuff?Box
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Mung, identification of an empirically detectable, reliable sign of intelligently directed configuration -- thus of a design process -- is a strong sign of a designer back of that process. Further, designs typically indicate much regarding the knowledge and skill of the contriver; hence why we talk of crude vs sophisticated designs. But then, what is at work is, plainly, no design and no designer can be accepted so let's find a plausible rhetorical peg to hang our before the fact ideologically predetermined conclusions on. KF PS: whatever its age, the body plan in the fish fossils strongly speaks to sophisticated complex organised functionality that is information rich. FSCO/I, pace EL and co, is a strong sign of design as cause.kairosfocus
May 30, 2015
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OT: Over at TSZ, fossils of reason occasionally appear, quite by accident. Elizabeth Liddle: I do not think the ID case holds up. I think it is undermined by any evidence for the putative designer – no hypothesis about what the designer was trying to do, how she was doing it, what her capacities were, etc. Mung: The ID case does not hold up because it is undermined by any evidence for the designer. Classic.Mung
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He can't be a genuine creationist. If he were, he'd know that those marks in the rock are a few thousand years old at most and paleontologists are all part of a government-funded conspiracy to fool ordinary folk into thinking the world is much older than it is.
“There’s no dates stamped on these things.”
None in the Bible either.Seversky
May 29, 2015
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Aren’t we all eating pineapples now, instead of sweeping up our underground furnace rooms?
Eating, yes, but growing, no (I assume). Although there does appear to be a warming trend.
Over the past 50 years, throughout most of Alberta and British Columbia’s mountains, the average nightly low temperature in the middle of winter has increased at least 2 C near the coast and up to 5 C in parts of the Rockies, according to Prof. Pomeroy, a Canada Research Chair in water resources and climate change. That has shortened the spring ski season anywhere from four to six weeks at many hills, he said.
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