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Darwin’s defender PZ Myers remains unhappy with the ENCODE findings

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Not much “junk DNA.” From him:

Dan Graur has snarled at the authors of a paper defending ENCODE. How could I then resist? I read the offending paper, and I have to say something that will weaken my own reputation as a snarling attack dog myself: it does make a few good points. But it’s mostly using some valid criticisms to defend an indefensible position.

The world yawns and marches on.

Friends point out that we do not know anywhere near enough to know what is or is not junk in the geonme, but that under those circumstances, it is wise to assume that any given component is doing something useful.

One friend kindly writes to say that the term “junk DNA” was coined by Ohno in 1972, to identify the residue of nature’s failed experiments, comparable to extinct species. He assumed we’d find lots of that. So the concept started out as failed genes.

Now the story is something else, but no matter what happens, they’ll never really give up.

See also: Jonathan Wells on Junk DNA and science and The Myth of Junk DNA

Note: “Useful” doesn’t mean “critical.” Redundancy is part of any well-designed system. Indeed, any system in a time-directed universe would have some obsolete features, however well-designed. See, for example, Who’ll give a buck for junk?:

If design is real, must all DNA be functional? I don’t see why that should necessarily be so. A designed system may accumulate junk. A well-designed system accumulates much less junk. So if design is real, we should see a system with only a small amount of junk, and the reason for it is inevitability.

By the way, Myers features at Skeptical about Skeptics.

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it does make a few good points. But it’s mostly using some valid criticisms to defend an indefensible position.
OK, so that's his opinion. Others have differing views. Betting against design has not proved to be a particularly good strategy in the past. You would think he would have learned that by now. There was the whole embarrassing debacle concerning all the different supposed vestigial organs that they made such a big deal about, but they have found a purpose for all of these. Now they try and disguise the egg on their face by changing the meaning of the term vestigial and claim it doesn't mean there can be no function. I guess the question then becomes "How do you know it is vestigial then?" But whatever... Then the bad design argument about the eye. This has been clearly debunked. And the junk DNA has proved to be an embarrassment as well. They keep finding more and more function and purpose. The trend is in one direction and those holding onto the shrinking junk DNA argument, although they are still safe right now, must be worried at this trend in the wrong direction. At any rate, as was pointed out, simply because we don't know the function does not mean there is no function. So the junk DNA argument is an argument from ignorance. It really cannot be proven. It is an assumption that fits nicely with their worldview so the temptation to jump to that conclusion just seems irresistible for Meyers et al.
If design is real, must all DNA be functional? I don’t see why that should necessarily be so. A designed system may accumulate junk. A well-designed system accumulates much less junk. So if design is real, we should see a system with only a small amount of junk, and the reason for it is inevitability.
I'm not sure where this quote is from, but is something that creationists continually point out. It makes total sense from an ID or creationist point of view. We see systems breaking down, not increasing in function. This is normal and happens all the time. I'm not aware of any instances of systems increasing in complexity, function, or efficiency over time by random evolutionary forces - outside of the normal growth of an embryo, seed, egg, etc. In this case, the growth pattern is determined by the software (information pre-programmed into the DNA) already found in it. This is not evolution.tjguy
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