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Here’s some publicity from IVP for the forthcoming Phil Johnson festschrift — Darwin’s Nemesis. I was able last minute to insert some brief comment about Dover into the preface, which I give below:

Darwin's Nemesis

Life after Dover

On December 20, 2005, as this book was going to press, Judge John E. Jones III rendered his verdict in the first court case involving intelligent design. In Kitzmiller v. Dover, also billed as Scopes II, Judge Jones not only struck down the Dover school board policy advocating intelligent design but also identified intelligent design as nonscientific and fundamentally religious. Accordingly, he concluded that the teaching of intelligent design in public school science curricula violates the Establishment Clause and therefore is unconstitutional.

It is hard to imagine that a court decision could have been formulated more negatively against intelligent design (for the actual decision, see www .pamd.uscourts.gov/kitzmiller/kitzmiller_342.pdf). In light of this decision, one may therefore wonder about the appropriateness of titling this book Darwin’s Nemesis. To read Judge Jones’s decision, one gets the impression that Darwin is alive and quite well. Even so, let me suggest that this decision is a bump in the road and that Phillip Johnson’s program for dismantling Darwinism remains well in hand.

To see that Judge Jones’s decision is not nearly the setback for intelligent design that its critics would like to imagine, let’s start by considering what would have happened if the judge had ruled in favor of the Dover policy. Such a ruling would have emboldened school boards, legislators, and grass roots organizations to push for intelligent design in the public school science curricula across the nation. As a consequence, this case really would have been a Waterloo for the supporters of neo-Darwinian evolution (the form of evolution taught in all the textbooks).

Conversely, the actual ruling is not a Waterloo for the intelligent design side. Certainly it will put a damper on some school boards that would otherwise have been interested in promoting intelligent design. But this is not a Supreme Court decision. Nor is it likely this decision will be appealed since the Dover school board that instituted the controversial policy supporting intelligent design was voted out and replaced November 2005 with a new board that campaigned on the promise of overturning the policy.

Without an explicit Supreme Court decision against intelligent design, we can expect continued grass roots pressure to promote intelligent design and undercut neo-Darwinian evolution in the public schools. Because of Kitzmiller v. Dover, school boards and state legislators may tread more cautiously, but tread on evolution they will — the culture war demands it!

It is therefore naive to think that this case threatens to derail intelligent design. Intelligent design is rapidly gaining an international following. It is also crossing metaphysical and theological boundaries. I now correspond with ID proponents from every continent (save Antarctica). Moreover, I’ve seen intelligent design embraced by Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, agnostics, and even atheists. The idea that intelligent design is purely an “American thing” or an “evangelical Christian thing” can therefore no longer be maintained.

Even if the courts manage to censor intelligent design at the grade and high school levels (and with the Internet censorship means nothing to the enterprising student), they remain powerless to censor intelligent design at the college and university levels. Intelligent design is quickly gaining momentum among college and graduate students. Three years ago, there was one IDEA Center at the University of California at San Diego (IDEA = Intelligent Design and Evolution Awareness—see ). Now there are thirty such centers at American colleges and universities, including the University of California at Berkeley and Cornell University. These centers are fiercely pro-intelligent design.

Ultimately, the significance of a court case like Kitzmiller v. Dover depends not on a judge’s decision but on the cultural forces that serve as the backdrop against which the decision is made. Take the Scopes Trial. In most persons’ minds, it represents a decisive victory for evolution. Yet, in the actual trial, the decision went against evolution (John Scopes was convicted of violating a Tennessee statute that forbade the teaching of evolution).

Judge Jones’s decision may make life in the short term more difficult for ID proponents. But the work of intelligent design will continue. In fact, it is likely to continue more effectively than if the judge had ruled in favor of intelligent design, which would have encouraged complacency, suggesting that intelligent design had already won the day when in fact intelligent design still has much to accomplish in developing its scientific and intellectual program.

Instead of ruling narrowly on the actual Dover policy, Judge Jones saw his chance to enter the history books by assuming an activist role, ruling broadly, and declaring intelligent design to be unconstitutional. Yet, if he and his ruling are remembered at all, it will be not for valiantly defending science but for pandering to a failed reductionist way of doing science.

Just as a tree that has been ringed (i.e., had its bark completely cut through on all sides) is effectively dead even if it retains its leaves and appears alive, so Darwinism has met its match with the movement initiated by Phillip Johnson. Expect Darwinism’s death throes, like Judge Jones’s decision, to continue for some time. But don’t mistake death throes for true vitality. Ironically, Judge Jones’s decision is likely to prove a blessing for the intelligent design movement, spurring its proponents to greater heights and thereby fostering its intellectual vitality and ultimate success.

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Patrick, the simulation would not need to *assume* that the proposed IC barrier could be broken down. One would simply run the simulation applying RM+NS from whatever are the appropriate initial conditions, and then you'd *find out* whether the IC barrier was broken down (i.e. whether it was really a barrier or not). This is why it would be a test of RM+NS. Don't you agree? What we certainly agree on is that it is not a tractible test---but this is why one needs to come up with subtler tests of theories than brute force calculation. Almost every realistic physical system is hard to actually solve explicitly!physicist
January 17, 2006
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Davescot I think i was talking about two separate things. In post #50 (echoed by Stephen elliot), i was saying that modelling the evolution of a large complex system by RM+NS is computationally intractible. And so it is not a good way to try and test whether RM+NS works---all it shws is that non-linear equations are hard to solve, in general. The other thing I was saying, is the point I was trying to get across in #42---completely separate from #50. There, I was trying to say that given a hypothesis, it is unprecedented to define a new hypothesis as the complement of the original hypothesis in the space of all theories. The physics analogy was that when people found evidence that classical physics is wrong, they did not define a new theory called `non-classical' physics. The new theory was eventually quantum mechanics, which of course belongs to the space of all non-classical theories, but my point was that there are as many theories as you like which are neither classical mechanics or quantum mechanics. I'd really like to get this point across, as I think this is the way most scientists will understand ID. Please tell me which bit I am not making clear.physicist
January 17, 2006
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A computer simulation of evolutionary predictions would have to start with the assumption that RM+NS is capable of breaking down the CSI/IC barrier. But you're right about the rediculous amount of variables involved. I wish such a simulation could be run just so we could compare it to reality. Now if the simulation was run based upon known physics (NOT just assuming RM+NS works) it'd be interesting to see if anything comes out of it at all...but of course that justs increases the calculation time even further. le sighPatrick
January 17, 2006
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You were trying to say what Stephen Elliot said? I didn't get that at all. This thread has gotten too long for me to keep track of who's saying what. If you're saying that Dembski's theorems might be wrong then I'll agree. But they're on firmer ground than an evolutionary narrative that posits undirected evolution without a shred of evidence in support of lack of direction, inability to even give a plausible RM+NS scenario for a relatively uncomplicated structure like the bacterial flagellum, versus a ton of indirect evidence for purpose and design. Censoring the weakness of the NeoDarwinian narrative and the logical consistency of a design explanation in biology class is just wrong at so many levels spanning a gamut from logical, scientific, and legal, it just boggles the mind. Mark my words, this situation will change. Judicial fiat is the only thing keeping evolution, the biggest hoax in the history of science, alive.DaveScot
January 17, 2006
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physicist "do you understand my point?" No.DaveScot
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I think Stephen elliot has probably explained more clearly what I was trying to say in #50!physicist
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sorry, that last post (#55) was in reply to (#53). I think you are misunderstanding me in #54. I am not making a distinction between the use of the word theory and the word hypothesis. There may be some subtleties in meaning there as you say, but that was not my point---and I really don't think I am being disingenuous. My point was that the new `hypothesis/theory' is being defined as the precise complement of the old hypothesis/theory in the space of all possible theories of how biological systems arose as we now observe them. This kind of definition of a theory is unprecedented in science. Usually as I said before there is some possibility that both new and old theories are incorrect. I think my position is fairly well illustrated by the classical/quantum mechanics analogy in #42. I know that analogies can be taken only so far, but do you understand my point?physicist
January 17, 2006
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j said, "Premise 1: The orbiting of planets is entirely mechanistic. Premise 2: Computers are machines that can be used to model mechanistic processes. Premise 3: Newtonian gravitation mechanistically explains the orbiting of planets (with a very high degree of accuracy) Conclusion: It is possible to accurately model the orbits of planets using a computer program. This is true. P1: The weather is entirely mechanistic. P2: Computers are machines that can be used to model mechanistic processes. P3: Fluid dynamics mechanistically explains the weather (with a fair degree of accuracy) C: It is possible to accurately model the weather using a computer program. This is true. (Even when it becomes less accurate over longer periods due to the effects of chaos, it still models some (erroneous) weather pattern.) P1: Life is entirely mechanistic. P2: Computers are machines that can be used to model mechanistic processes. P3: Darwinian evolution mechanistically explains (the origin of the diversity and complexity of) life. C: It is possible to accurately model (the origin of the diversity and complexity of) life using a computer program. This is false." Well I agree with your conclusions, but fail to see where you have made allowances for the growing order of complexity. To plot a planets orbit using newtonian gravity is relatively simple. As soon as you introduce more planets though the difficulty shoots up and becomes very difficult. Atempting to do the same with Einsteins (more accurate) version of gravity makes the calculations just about impossible. Computing weather is even harder that a planets orbit. So you would expect less accuracy. Evolutionary predictions from a computer would have to overcome a ridiculous amount of variables. So although I agree with your conclusions, I believe the reason each one becomes less accurate is to do with knowing the original relevant paramaters. Not neccessarilly the accuracy of the theories.Stephen Elliott
January 17, 2006
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. I'm not sure what you think it is supposed to prove. Isn't avida just a simple model of RM+NS, or am I missing your point?physicist
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physicist "But one problem you have with intelligent design is that most scientists (as I said, myself included) probably don’t think it is well-specified enough to be a `theory’." Any casual reading of peer-reviewed science journals will find just tons of "theory" where the pedantically correct word is hypothesis. It's the epitomy of disingenuousness to single out intelligent design theory as some kind of particularly egregious offender.DaveScot
January 17, 2006
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"However, I think computational biologists probably work on much simpler models, for limited cases. I can check this" Google Avida. It appears what's "much simpler" is the mind of anyone who believes that pile of spaghetti code actually proves something.DaveScot
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PaV Well, I'm glad the analogy is well-taken. (What do other people think? Is it fair? I understand that one can only take analogies so far, but it seems fairly close to me.) I expect people felt there were hints toward whatever would replace classical physics---whether these hints lead them in the right direction is not clear. Obviously *some* people found quantum mechanics, but I expect there were many ideas that turned out not to work. Perhaps this is a matter of opinion. But one problem you have with intelligent design is that most scientists (as I said, myself included) probably don't think it is well-specified enough to be a `theory'. It is just unprecedented in science that the complement of an existing hypothesis in the space of all theories is well-defined as a new hypothesis. As far as I can tell, the main research in the field (and perhaps know little) is based around trying to falsify Darwinian evolution; in particualr the ideas of irreducible complexity (Behe) and specified complexity (Dembski's law). I don't understand at the moment how the former can work as a falsification of RM+NS, since it must be very difficult to prove that there doesn't exist any evolutionary path to get to a given organism. Particularly as we don't know very well what was the environment and interaction with other biological systems in the history of the organism. Dembski's law makes more sense to me as a starting point to falsify RM+NS as the basis for evolving the systems we observe in nature (sorry, I don't mean this to sound like divide and conquer, but that's the way I understand it). However, this is my point, really---the research in ID is best thought of as attempted falsification of Darwinism, which is an interesting idea. It is certainly easier for me to think about it in this way, and I think this will be the reaction of most scientists. The research to falsify an existing theory makes sense, but the complement of the existing theory is not well defined as a new hypothesis---or at least it never has been, before.physicist
January 17, 2006
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PS j you sound a like a bit of a cynic! doubt and skepticism are perhaps the most important attributes of a scientist. however, you are right, it is difficult to move away from established paradigms. still, there is a good reason for this---most new ideas don't work! sorry, now I sound cynical....physicist
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Dear j Modelling weather is extremely hard due to the nonlinearity of the equations involved---which gives rise to what you might call chaos. (But really this is a generic feature of trying to solve any non-linear differential equation---which occur in all but the simplest examples of classical physics.) Whether you can model weather accurately is not clear to me, it is basically quite a difficult problem. Anyway: > P1: Life is entirely mechanistic. > P2: Computers are machines that can be used to model mechanistic processes. > P3: Darwinian evolution mechanistically explains (the origin of the diversity and complexity of) life. > C: It is possible to accurately model (the origin of the diversity and complexity of) life using a computer program. > This is false. Well, I wondered at first here (from the assertion that P1 life is entirely mechanistic) whether you were asking me if one can explain human *behaviour* directly from physical laws (which would be relevant to my off-topic discussion with Davescot). That in itself is an interesting question, but I think you're actually asking me if one can model evolution of biological systems by some classical differential equations given some initial conditions, and then solve these on a computer. Well, I would say this would be extremely difficult to do considering (1) we do not know very well the initial conditions and (2) there is a lot of interaction among species and between different species and also with the environment. Even writing down the appropriate equations would be techically difficult but solving them on a computer would probably be prohibitively difficult because of (2). This is because interactions generically introduce non-linearities. So, I think modelling the evolution of all biological systems on the earth would be orders of magnitude more difficult than modelling the weather, which is already extremely tricky. (However, I think computational biologists probably work on much simpler models, for limited cases. I can check this.) So, I think your assertion is, that *if* we had the knowledge of initial conditions on the earth, and *if* we could write down the appropriate nonlinear equations to describe Darwinian RM+NS, and *if* we had the computing power to solve these equations with any degree of accuracy, then RM+NS would *not* be consistent with what we observe. Well, that is your assertion, but it is practically impossible to test---none of the three conditionals I've listed hold. I think that Dembski's law is an attempt to prove the same assertion by more tractable means. But I'm not sure what else you can say about falsifying RM+NS using a computer. Have I understood what you mean correctly?physicist
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PaV asked: "I wonder just how many scientists approach their work with the idea that ‘nature’ is a ‘designer’. So much for Darwinism and RM." Darwinians have no problem acknowledging beautiful adaptations in nature. As I said on another thread: The problem for ID proponents is not to get scientists to acknowledge that nature contains the hallmarks of design. The problem is to convince them that the design is real, not apparent. The key is not to find examples of “neat” design, but rather to find examples that cannot, in principle, have been produced by undirected evolution. This is what Behe attempted (and failed) to do with the concept of irreducible complexity.woctor
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I wrote: “Since Professor Dembski allows for an “unembodied designer” co-opting random processes, does this mean he is comfortable with the idea that all of life’s diversity is the result of mutation and natural selection, with the mutation process being directed by an “unembodied designer”?” j replied: "I don’t remember ever reading anything where he addresses that particular question, but I don’t see how he could be comfortable with it unless or until evidence is found for the purported evolutionary pathways for irreducibly complex systems." j, Thanks for the reply. But is irreducible complexity really a problem if mutations are orchestrated by an "unembodied designer"? I would guess that an "unembodied designer" could arrange to have multiple coordinated mutations happen at once, which would surmount the irreducible complexity barrier (assuming it is real in the first place). It would be very interesting if Dembski were comfortable with this idea, since it is, from what I understand, the version of evolution that Ken Miller espouses (the only difference being that Miller does not see IC as a barrier and would presumably not see multiple coordinated mutations as a necessity).woctor
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physicist: "This falsification was certainly interesting, and falsifying Darwinian RM+NS would be interesting now. However, physicists at the time did not elevate the falsification of classical physics to the status of a new theory. I guess this would have meant defining a new theory called `notclassical’ physics (i.e. as the complement of classical physics in the space of all possible theories)." The analogy is fair enough. However, the difference, I believe, is that in the case of classical to non-classical physics you simply had experimental evidence that simply couldn't be explained, but with no real hint as to the ultimate solution; whereas with ID, not only does it defeat RM+NS as a mechanism for, let us say, 'progressive' evolution, it also gives a hint as to the ultimate solution: intelligent design. Translated, biological forms are best understood as 'machines' that have been 'assembled' by a 'designer'. Here's a quote I ran across the other day: Solomon W. Golomb of the University of Southern California, who was a central figure in the first round of speculations about the genetic code, has summed up the spirit of that era: The approach taken in those days was to ask, "How would Nature have done it, if she were as clever as I?" (http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/37228?&print=yes) I wonder just how many scientists approach their work with the idea that 'nature' is a 'designer'. So much for Darwinism and RM.PaV
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woctor (post #21): "Since Professor Dembski allows for an “unembodied designer” co-opting random processes, does this mean he is comfortable with the idea that all of life’s diversity is the result of mutation and natural selection, with the mutation process being directed by an “unembodied designer”?" I don't remember ever reading anything where he addresses that particular question, but I don't see how he could be comfortable with it unless or until evidence is found for the purported evolutionary pathways for irreducibly complex systems. physicist (post #34): "If our ability to predict what happens in the universe changed when mankind appeared, surely one would also need a change in the physical description of the universe. I would call that a change in physical laws, but perhaps that is a matter of terminology." Congratulations on having an open mind. Someone in the sciences who actually believes that science should go where the evidence leads -- that's refreshing. Be careful: with thinking like that, you just might start seeing the merits of ID. physicist (post #41): "...it is unprecedented certainly in physics to define a new hypothesis as the complement of an existing hypothesis, as I think is the case with ID and Darwinism. Usually there is some possibility that both new and old hypotheses are wrong, which I don’t think is the case, here. Is that a fair characterization?" How many accepted laws of physics are incapable of even being accurately modelled in a computer? That's the case with Darwinian evolution. Consider: Premise 1: The orbiting of planets is entirely mechanistic. Premise 2: Computers are machines that can be used to model mechanistic processes. Premise 3: Newtonian gravitation mechanistically explains the orbiting of planets (with a very high degree of accuracy) Conclusion: It is possible to accurately model the orbits of planets using a computer program. This is true. P1: The weather is entirely mechanistic. P2: Computers are machines that can be used to model mechanistic processes. P3: Fluid dynamics mechanistically explains the weather (with a fair degree of accuracy) C: It is possible to accurately model the weather using a computer program. This is true. (Even when it becomes less accurate over longer periods due to the effects of chaos, it still models some (erroneous) weather pattern.) P1: Life is entirely mechanistic. P2: Computers are machines that can be used to model mechanistic processes. P3: Darwinian evolution mechanistically explains (the origin of the diversity and complexity of) life. C: It is possible to accurately model (the origin of the diversity and complexity of) life using a computer program. This is false. I'll conclude with a quote from Dr. Johnson, who is the "man of the hour (or thread, as it happens)": "...we know a great deal less than has been claimed. In particular, we do not know how the immensely complex organ systems of plants and animals could have been created by mindless and purposeless natural processes, as Darwinists say they must have been. Darwinian theory attributes biological complexity to the acumulation of adaptive micromutations by natural selection, but the creative power of this hypothetical mechanism has never been demonstrated, and the fossil evidence is inconsistent with the claim that biological creation occurred in that way. The philosophically important part of Darwinian theory -- its mechanism for creating complex things that did not exist before -- is therefore not really part of empirical science at all, but rather a deduction from naturalistic philosophy."j
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Custer was scalped, true, but the attention the Indians brought on themselves by the battle resulted in public outcry and total victory for the U.S. Cavalry within a few months. The Darwinists have had their tomahawks out for Dembski for sometime now, but the end result has been increased attention to I.D. If the Darwinists ever do succeed in scalping Dembski I think they will find out, like Sitting Bull, that they won the battle but lost the war... Cheers, Dave T.taciturnus
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"Darwinism has met its match with the movement initiated by Phillip Johnson." William Dembski "Now we've got them" General George A. Custer, Battle of little Big HornMiles
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(sorry, the end of the last post might have sounded a bit arrogant. perhaps better for me to say that I understand ID better as a putative falsification, rather than a theory, at least in my sense of the word theory)physicist
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Just to illustrate my ramblings with an example from my field. There were many problems with classical physics at the turn of the last century. It was in some sense clear that classical physics is not the whole story, and though I'm not a historian of science i think you could roughly say that classical physics had been falsified (at least as a theory of certain phenomena). This falsification was certainly interesting, and falsifying Darwinian RM+NS would be interesting now. However, physicists at the time did not elevate the falsification of classical physics to the status of a new theory. I guess this would have meant defining a new theory called `notclassical' physics (i.e. as the complement of classical physics in the space of all possible theories). Of course, the next interesting step was defining a new hypothesis that belongs to the space of all non-classical theories, but does not saturate it: quantum mechanics. Anyway, as I said above even though my feeling is that defining a theory as the complement of an existing theory isn't really IMO sensible, that doesn't mean that one can't try to falsify the existing theory. I suppose I want to rebrand ID as a putative falsification of Darwinism rather than a theory.physicist
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hi OK, I will try to read more on how the Dembski law is applied. Yes, so the issue is whether RM+NS is consistent with the form of all the biological systems we observe, and the claim is that Dembski's law proves it is not. Right? One quick thought presumably any change in specified complexity in the experiments where RM+NS is observed in the lab is measurable, and tiny? A further thought I had in the pre-mothballing comments thread, on the relation between ID and Darwinism that you mention above: it is unprecedented certainly in physics to define a new hypothesis as the complement of an existing hypothesis, as I think is the case with ID and Darwinism. Usually there is some possibility that both new and old hypotheses are wrong, which I don't think is the case, here. Is that a fair characterization? (This is IMO why many scientists don't think ID is a `theory'. However, to some extent this is a matter of terminology, as it would certainly be interesting convincingly to falsify Darwinian evolution; whether this falsification itself defines a new theory is a secondary consideration. Sorry, I'm rambling but I think people who don't regard ID as a theory (probably this includes me) can just think of ID=falsification of Darwinian evolution. The interesting question of course is whether one *really has* falsified Darwinian evolution, which takes me back to the claims of Dembski's law....)physicist
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"But you’re saying NS is included—is that correct?" Certainly. Even young-earth creation scientists generally don't deny that RM+NS is operative where it can be observed in living tissue. The question is whether it can account for everything that ever happened in the entire history of the evolution of life where it cannot be directly observed or even reproduced in a lab. The proposition that evolution is an unguided process is not science unless one also admits guided evolution as science. Unguided evolution cannot be falsified without being able to demonstrate, in principle, that evolution is guided. One doesn't get to have one's cake and eat it too. It cannot be scientifically claimed that evolution is unguided and also say it can only be falsified by something that one claims is religion. ID claims the scientific position of being, in principle, able to falsify unguided evolution. It may be that ID is wrong but that should be a matter for open debate in the public square without limitation imposed by judicial fiat. Clearly a very large percentage of the population believes that ID in one form or another has merit. If a majority of residents in any school district wants scientific dissent to Darwinism introduced to children in 9th grade biology class that is their right as participants in a democracy.DaveScot
January 16, 2006
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So anyway, I think I'd disagree with your statement of `I don’t think free will is either verifiable or falsifiable, even in principle', for the reasons above. Though that is a bit off-topic. So to confirm what I was wondering (and nearer to being on-topic): the application of Dembski's law definitely includes natural selection, via self-interaction and interaction with other species and the environment?physicist
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Davescot, if free will has an observable effect, then IMO it is science. (though it may be very difficult science to do!) In particular, if `man’s free will changed the natural course of events in an unpredictable way', surely that would be observable? What else is physics but a description of the natural course of events?physicist
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Oops. Bombadill didn't originall mentioned it. Merely linked to it on amazon.com That's just as evil in my book. And the person who originally mentioned it. Out of here, I say! See how funny things become when DS takes over? NOTHING is allowed.jboze3131
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Wait. Bombadill asked if someone had read Lee Strobel's book. Quick Dave Scot- ban him! Ban him! Hurry!jboze3131
January 16, 2006
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There's not a scintilla of science behind my opinion of free will, by the way. It may very well be that given adequate knowledge and computing power a person's every fleeting thought might be predicted and were nothing more than automatons acting out roles that were predetermined billions of years of ago. Free will may be an illusion. I don't think free will is either verifiable or falsifiable, even in principle, so it isn't science.DaveScot
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`structures in living things' was what I meant by `observed design'. OK, so my impression was that the process of natural selection (via self-interaction and interaction with other species/the environment) was not addressed in Dembski's law; that it only ruled out observed structures having risen by random mutation. But you're saying NS is included---is that correct? I'll need to read more. Perhaps the second point comes down to terminology. Physical laws are IMO a set of rules for predicting what will happen in nature.(Of course, unpredictability is part of the laws of quantum mechanics, but in a certain very well-specified sense, and I don't think it is this unpredictability to which you refer.) How would you define what physical laws are? If our ability to predict what happens in the universe changed when mankind appeared, surely one would also need a change in the physical description of the universe. I would call that a change in physical laws, but perhaps that is a matter of terminology.physicist
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