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Does ID presuppose a mechanistic view of nature?

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The Nature of NatureThomas and Aristotle have loomed large on this blog recently. I would like to have weighed in on these discussions, but I have too many other things on my plate right now. I therefore offer this brief post.

One critic, going after me directly, asserts that I’m committed to a mechanical view of nature and that I develop ID in ways inimical to an Aristotelian-Thomistic understanding of nature, according to which nature operates by formal and final causes. Life, according to this view, would be natural rather than artifactual. ID, by contrast, is supposed to demand an artifactual understanding of life.

I don’t think this criticism hits the mark. I have to confess that I’ve always been much more a fan of Plato than of Aristotle, and so I don’t quite see the necessity of forms being realized in nature along strict Aristotelian lines. Even so, nothing about ID need be construed as inconsistent with Aristotle and Thomas.

ID’s critique of naturalism and Darwinism should not be viewed as offering a metaphysics of nature but rather as a subversive strategy for unseating naturalism/Darwinism on their own terms. The Darwinian naturalists have misunderstood nature, along mechanistic lines, but then use this misunderstanding to push for an atheistic worldview.

ID is willing, arguendo, to consider nature as mechanical and then show that the mechanical principles by which nature is said to operate are incomplete and point to external sources of information (cf. the work of the Evolutionary Informatics Lab — www.evoinfo.org). This is not to presuppose mechanism in the strong sense of regarding it as true. It is simply to grant it for the sake of argument — an argument that is culturally significant and that needs to be prosecuted.

This is not to minimize the design community’s work on the design inference/explanatory filter/irreducible-specified-functional complexity. ID has uncovered scientific markers that show where design is. But pointing up where design is, is not to point up where design isn’t.

For the Thomist/Aristotelian, final causation and thus design is everywhere. Fair enough. ID has no beef with this. As I’ve said (till the cows come home, though Thomist critics never seem to get it), the explanatory filter has no way or ruling out false negatives (attributions of non-design that in fact are designed). I’ll say it again, ID provides scientific evidence for where design is, not for where it isn’t.

What exactly then is the nature of nature? That’s the topic of a conference I helped organize at Baylor a decade ago and whose proceedings (suitably updated) are coming out this year (see here). ID is happy to let a thousand flowers bloom with regard to the nature of nature provided it is not a mechanistic, self-sufficing view of nature.

This may sound self-contradictory (isn’t ID always talking about mechanisms displayed by living forms?), but it is not. As I explain in THE DESIGN REVOLUTION:

In discussing the inadequacy of physical mechanisms to bring about design, we need to be clear that intelligent design is not wedded to the same positivism and mechanistic metaphysics that drives Darwinian naturalism. It’s not that design theorists and Darwinian naturalists share the same conception of nature but then simply disagree whether a supernatural agent sporadically intervenes in nature. In fact, intelligent design does not prejudge the nature of nature—that’s for the evidence to decide [[I would change this parenthetical now; metaphysics needs to be consulted as well, 4.18.10]]. Intelligent design’s tools for design detection, for instance, might fail to detect design. Even so, if intelligent design is so free of metaphysical prejudice, why does it continually emphasize mechanism? Why is it constantly looking to molecular machines and focusing on the mechanical aspects of life? If intelligent design treats living things as machines, then isn’t it effectively committed to a mechanistic metaphysics however much it might want to distance itself from that metaphysics otherwise?

Such questions confuse two senses of the term “mechanism.” Michael Polanyi noted the confusion back in the 1960s (see his article “Life Transcending Physics and Chemistry” in the August 1967 issue of Chemical and Engineering News): “Up to this day one speaks of the mechanistic conception of life both to designate an explanation of life in terms of physics and chemistry [what I was calling “physical mechanisms”], and an explanation of living functions as machineries—though the latter excludes the former. The term ‘mechanistic’ is in fact so well established for referring to these two mutually exclusive conceptions, that I am at a loss to find two different words that will distinguish between them.” For Polanyi mechanisms, conceived as causal processes operating in nature, could not account for the origin of mechanisms, conceived as “machines or machinelike features of organisms.”

Hence in focusing on the machinelike features of organisms, intelligent design is not advocating a mechanistic conception of life. To attribute such a conception of life to intelligent design is to commit a fallacy of composition. Just because a house is made of bricks doesn’t mean that the house itself is a brick. Likewise just because certain biological structures can properly be described as machines doesn’t mean that an organism that includes those structures is a machine. Intelligent design focuses on the machinelike aspects of life because those aspects are scientifically tractable and precisely the ones that opponents of design purport to explain by physical mechanisms. Intelligent design proponents, building on the work of Polanyi, argue that physical mechanisms (like the Darwinian mechanism of natural selection and random variation) have no inherent capacity to bring about the machinelike aspects of life.

Darwinism deserves at least as much philosophical scrutiny from Thomists/Aristotelians as ID. It’s therefore ironic that ID gets so much more of their (negative) attention.

P.S. ID’s metaphysical openness about the nature of nature entails a parallel openness about the nature of the designer. Is the designer an intelligent alien, a computional simulator (a la THE MATRIX), a Platonic demiurge, a Stoic seminal reason, an impersonal telic process, …, or the infinite personal transcendent creator God of Christianity? The empirical data of nature simply can’t decide. But that’s not to say the designer is anonymous. I’m a Christian, so the designer’s identity is clear, at least to me. But even to identify the designer with the Christian God is not to say that any particular instance of design in nature is directly the work of his hands. We humans use surrogate intelligences to do work for us (e.g., computer algorithms). God could likewise use surrogate intelligences (Aristotelian final causes?) to produce the sorts of designs that ID theorists focus on (such as the bacterial flagellum).

Comments
---Chucky: "The problem with that, from a thomist perspective, is that Aquinas firmly established that everything is designed long ago. For a thomist to embrace IDs “design detection” would be a huge leap backwards!" For those who know calculus, long division is huge leap backwards. Does that mean that math teachers who know calculus should refuse to teach long division on the grounds that the latter is not as elegant as the former?StephenB
April 21, 2010
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tgpeeler: Do you think it is possible to understand and predict God's causal effect in nature? If so, is that still God?lastyearon
April 21, 2010
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tgpeeler:
Two of the fundamental intellectual commitments of naturalism (there may be more) are “nature is all there is” and “nature is causally closed.” The upshots of these commitments are that everything is explainable by reference to physical law(s) and that nothing eerie or spooky (such as God, minds, or souls because those are “outside” of nature) can have any causal effect in nature. Given this, I argue that not only is naturalism false, it is impossible for it to be true.
First of all, you seem to imply that naturalism is the same thing as atheism. It isn't. It is a perfectly legitimate position to hold that God exists within nature. i.e. God and nature are synonymous. Second, if you look closely at the commitment you say naturalists make, it really is nothing more than a tautology. If something can have a causal effect in nature, it's natural by definition. History is full of examples of eerie or spooky things that used to be 'outside' of nature, but are now known to be natural, simply because people have done the work to understand their causal effect. It is not naturalists that make the a-priori commitment, but IDers. In observing an object that appears to be designed, ID holds that the causal effect must to be outside of nature.lastyearon
April 21, 2010
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Well Chucky, it doesn't seem the Thomists "everything is designed position", (A position I happen to agree with by the way) was doing much to quell the tide of neo-Darwinism in public discourse, whereas ID, much to the discontent of many atheistic Darwinists, is. Perhaps Thomists would be wise to admit that their lack of rigid definition to "the real world" has been somewhat of a hindrance and not been of much apologetic force as far as the proper practice of science is done.bornagain77
April 21, 2010
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tgpeeler #54, Excellent post!Chucky Darwin
April 21, 2010
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bornagain77 #53:
As far as I’m concerned, the most important question is whether something was designed or not,,, period.
The problem with that, from a thomist perspective, is that Aquinas firmly established that everything is designed long ago. For a thomist to embrace IDs "design detection" would be a huge leap backwards!Chucky Darwin
April 21, 2010
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lastyearon @ 49 "How about simply revising the properties of nature, which is totally consistent with the notion of a fine-tuned universe, and is exactly what Darwin did." Excuse me for jumping in here but if we went to an example of language rather than symbols perhaps this would be clearer. Let's say that, this morning, when I stepped outside of the Emerald City, I looked up in the sky and saw, in black letters, the words "SURRENDER DOROTHY" written across the sky. I suggest to you that "the properties of nature" cannot be revised in any way that allows for the explanation of the message contained in those two words. I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly so, that "properties of nature" are code words for physics. If I am mistaken, perhaps you could explain what the "properties of nature" mean, exactly. For now, I'll assume I'm correct. The problem is that naturalism, and any story that naturalism has to tell, in this case, neo-darwinian evolution, is false. Here's why. Two of the fundamental intellectual commitments of naturalism (there may be more) are "nature is all there is" and "nature is causally closed." The upshots of these commitments are that everything is explainable by reference to physical law(s) and that nothing eerie or spooky (such as God, minds, or souls because those are "outside" of nature) can have any causal effect in nature. Given this, I argue that not only is naturalism false, it is impossible for it to be true. How can I say this? It all turns on the question of information. If I need language to encode information into some sort of physical substrate, and I do. And all languages are comprised of symbols and rules, and they are. Then physics must be able to explain both the symbols, the representation of one thing for another, and the rules which govern the arrangement of those symbols (vocabulary, grammar, syntax) so that information can be encoded, sent, and decoded. But the fatal problem for naturalism then becomes the fact that the laws of physics, the only explanatory tool in the kit, have nothing to say, and will never, ever have anything to say, about either symbols or rules. Physics is forever silent about why "lion" means one thing and "tiger" means something else. Of course, physics is also forever silent about why it's wrong to be rude to a waiter and why living things, humans and animals in particular, do things for a purpose. So what's a naturalist to do? I've found that the typical response is denial. There is no such thing as a moral law. There is no such thing as real design or purpose. To my mind, these are feeble responses but somehow they satisfy others. But in the case of information, this option is denied the naturalist. For in order to deny information, one must use information. The denial therefore contradicts itself. It's as if I said I cannot write a word of English. The sentence I wrote disproves my assertion. In the same way, to deny information is to use information, therefore proving the original denial false. In my example of SURRENDER DOROTHY, we know immediately that the wicked witch of the west wrote those words in the sky. Certainly chance, physical law, and weather patterns could not account for the arrangement of the smoke particles into letters and the two words. (See pictures of the Iceland volcano for what nature produces.) And in any case, even if chance, physical law, and weather patterns could somehow account for the letters, those things would still have nothing to say about why that particular arrangement of particles means something, anything. Only a mind can create symbols and rules for the use of those symbols (as far as I know) and only a mind can create information (also as far as I know) because the laws of physics most certainly cannot. Thus, information is the universal indicator of design. As far as I can tell, it's infallible. If one finds information then one finds design. Because one must know a language to detect the information and that means symbols and rules and that means mind, or in biology, Mind. Or so I say.tgpeeler
April 20, 2010
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Sal, I'm with you. I really don't see where there is any "philosophical" issue with ID save for the materialists who can't answer the evidence being brought forth. The squabbling of philosophy is all a bit high brow for me. As far as I'm concerned, the most important question is whether something was designed or not,,, period. Everything else is stamp collecting as Rutherford would say.bornagain77
April 20, 2010
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Intelligent Design is the study of patterns in nature that are best explained as the result of intelligence Bill Dembski's definition
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The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. Discovery Institute FAQ
I find it hard to see how there could be such theological issues with such simple assertion!scordova
April 20, 2010
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The crucial question for science is whether design helps us understand the world, and especially the biological world, better than we do now when we systematically eschew teleological notions from our scientific theorizing. Thus, a scientist may view design and its appeal to a designer as simply a fruitful device for understanding the world, not attaching any significance to questions such as whether a theory of design is in some ultimate sense true or whether the designer actually exists. Philosophers of science would call this a constructive empiricist approach to design. Scientists in the business of manufacturing theoretical entities like quarks, strings, and cold dark matter could therefore view the designer as just one more theoretical entity to be added to the list. Bill Dembski No Free Lunch
The Design paradigm is used in two at least two contexts: 1. describing the operation of living things 2. criticizing Darwinian evolution Systems biologists already use instances of the explantory filter whether they realize or not. Whenever they say a biological system acts like a known engineering design ( like a decoding system), Design detection principles are already being invoked! One will never run away from this, and it is a superior way to characterize system behavior versus using Natural Selection. This is already acknowledged by mainstream scientists like Andreas Wagner. To that extent, the sense of Design in biology can't ever be extinguished despite efforts to remove teleological language from biology. The "constructive empiricist" view of design is already part of practice of biology despite all the formal and public denials. It will resist any attempts to be subjected to theological criticism in much the same way the art of reverse engineering (as practiced by engineers) will resist attempts to be criticized by metaphysics. The "constructive empiricist" view can also be used to effectively criticize the adequacy of Darwinian theory and mindless OOL. Formally speaking, ID does not have to be true for Darwinian evolution to be false.
Bill Dembski: Thomas and Aristotle have loomed large on this blog recently. I would like to have weighed in on these discussions, but I have too many other things on my plate right now. I therefore offer this brief post. One critic, going after me directly, asserts that I’m committed to a mechanical view of nature and that I develop ID in ways inimical to an Aristotelian-Thomistic understanding of nature, according to which nature operates by formal and final causes. Life, according to this view, would be natural rather than artifactual. ID, by contrast, is supposed to demand an artifactual understanding of life.
If the Thomistic-Aristotelian approach agrees with the practice of "reverse engineering" then there is no problem. The ID proponents should make that case. If the Thomistic-Aristotelian approach disagrees with the practice of "reverse engineering", so much the worse for theology, the modern practice of engineering has rarely been subservient to theology. Utility will prevail over metaphysics. The problem as I see it is characterizing the practice of design recognition (as already practiced in every day life and engineering) as some sort of theological idea, and thus subject to theological crticism. This line of criticism doesn't at all seem wholesome! Though the Thomist-Aristotle debate is important in persuading the clergy and thus the parishioners, in the end it is an inappropriate criticism in the realm of engineering and design detection! When I worked on design detection mechanisms to recognized human-made mine-fields, I don't recall the need for the methods to be subject to theological inquisition. Same goes for reverse engineering software. Same goes for detecting and recognizing design in biology. I see little point in using theology to criticize the accepted practice of design recognition.scordova
April 20, 2010
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To be more explicit, your example illustrates exactly why ID is totally contradictory to the notion of a fine-tuned universe, which would maintain that those circles were both designed and natural. Designed by intelligent agents which are themselves products of nature. You, as an IDer, insist that those circles are not the products of nature, and your implied assumption is that the circles were designed BECAUSE nature could not have produced them.lastyearon
April 20, 2010
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Upright, I'll try to answer your question, and I take no offense at your previous posts:
“…imagine in your mind a pile of sand on a distance unvisited planet where you find three perfect circles surrounding a perfect triangle. Do you now wonder if the three circles must mean something, or do you revise the properties of sand?”
The circles certainly mean something. But why do I have to revise the properties of sand? How about simply revising the properties of nature, which is totally consistent with the notion of a fine-tuned universe, and is exactly what Darwin did. On the other hand, ID says no. The properties of nature cannot account for these circles, and therefore they must have been separately designed.lastyearon
April 20, 2010
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@ Bilboe You said: I agree with them that Naturalism can be defeated quite easily without ID. It rests upon an unsupportable metaphysics that falls apart at the least touch. Do you mind elaborating a little on that? What is it about naturalism that makes it so fragile an unsupportable? I am not a naturalist by the way.above
April 20, 2010
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If Thomism is welcome under the ID big tent, then what was the basis for Mark Ryland stepping down from the Discovery Institute? Clearly he, Frank Beckwith, Alex Pruss, and other Thomists have gotten the message that Dembski-style ID is at odds with their vision of what ID might be. From Bill's recent posts, he makes it sound as if this is all a big misunderstanding. But from the conversations I've had, it seems to me that these folks did not merely leave the big tent, they were pushed.Flavius Id
April 20, 2010
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And another thing! We have a pretty good idea of what Thomas would have had to say about ID because we see it in the church that has modelled itself on his magnanimity and reasonableness. Like Benedict, he would speak kindly of ID to the extent that it glorifies God--and maintained a prudent silence with regard to some of its aberrations. The Catholic church is, after all, catholic. It includes followers of both Thomas and Augustine.allanius
April 20, 2010
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Attention, Francis! Did you actually read the post? Instead of flattering Dembski with all that empty "well written" stuff, how about paying him the supreme compliment of comprehending what he's trying to say? The leading guy in the ID movement comes right out and says that concepts like low probability and irreducible complexity are subversive tactics. You're familiar with the "wedge" strategy, I presume? Don't be afraid. The goal of ID is not neo-Platonism. The goal is overthrowing naturalism of the Darwinian kind, which excludes God from the act of creation. Now I admit, it is kind of interesting to hear Bill describe himself as being more attracted to Plato than Aristotle. Sounds like the perennial divide has raised its ugly head again--which is to be expected, since it cannot be overcome; since it is encoded into one's very being. But what about those of you who call yourselves "neo-Thomists"? Are you claiming, with Aristotle and Thomas, that the essence of God is intellect? That again? Hell-bent on reconstructing Valhalla? Haven't we learned our lesson yet? Here's the thing: A/T makes no sense unless God is intellect in his essence. The whole point of Aristotle's syllogisms and golden mean was that he thought he could overcome the negation caused by Idealism and "pure intellect" by describing the good as a purely active synthesis of intellectual and material causes. So is that where you are? Back with the old philosophers and their somewhat musty metaphysics? If so, then no wonder Denyse hasn't heard of you. If not--if you have discovered some new way of describing the synthetic method that overcomes the limitations of Thomas as well as Kant--hold the presses!allanius
April 20, 2010
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Jay Richards responds to Thomist critics of ID: http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/04/responding_to_thomist_critics.htmlWilliam Dembski
April 19, 2010
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I think I now have a better understanding of why Thomists take issue with ID. ID presents itself as the only or the strongest counter argument to Naturalism. Thomists consider this claim to be preposterous and therefore feel a need to attack ID. I agree with them that Naturalism can be defeated quite easily without ID. It rests upon an unsupportable metaphysics that falls apart at the least touch. But my reply to Thomists is that scientists don't give a fig for metaphysics. All they care about is the scientific enterprise, no matter how high in the air they build their castle. In that case, ID may be the only way to knock any sense into them. So I suggest that Thomists and IDists come to an understanding, and do so quickly. ID is not the strongest way to attack Naturalism. And ID needs to examine its own metaphysics. But ID does have something legitimate to say. And Thomists need to listen.Bilboe
April 19, 2010
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Re tragic mishap in comment #39: Yes, but the publication date at Amazon.com [ http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Examining-Role-Naturalism-Science/dp/1935191284/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1 ]is listed as February 15, 2009. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was last year, right? Please don't get me wrong; I really want to read this book, and am genuinely concerned that it hasn't yet been made available to the public, despite published information to the contrary.Allen_MacNeill
April 19, 2010
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lastyear, On second thought, forget it. Why pollute what has been an intersting conversation with StephenB, Timaeus, Beckwith, and others, by playing silly games with you? Please simply ignore my previous post.Upright BiPed
April 19, 2010
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lastyear, You cherry-picked one comment out of my post that you could use to ignore the remainder of the post, and you went with it. You simply refuse to examine the gaping hole in the middle of your rationale. Allow me to give you another opportunity: "...imagine in your mind a pile of sand on a distance unvisited planet where you find three perfect circles surrounding a perfect triangle. Do you now wonder if the three circles must mean something, or do you revise the properties of sand?" Now, show us that your rationale is valid by actually answering the question above.Upright BiPed
April 19, 2010
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I have been reading this blog for a while and I find your discussions here very interesting. I personally am open to both evolutionary theory and ID and am interested in seeing where the evidence will eventually take us. @Timaeus, who said: It may be that the evolutionary process is itself the expression of intelligence. I have been pondering about that for as well to be honest. I think that might just well be a very likely scenario. I would like to see more dialogue between evolutionary biologists and ID theorists because I think the two have a lot to learn from each other. What is unfortunate is the dogma that has been prevalent in many evolutionary circles, personified by neo-darwinian militants. I would much like to see less of that and more constructive efforts supported by both sides.above
April 19, 2010
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Upright BiPed...
What is it that makes the activity of an agent stand out? Does the activity of an agent stand out whether or not the background was designed?
The activity of an agent can only stand out if we know something about the agent, and what types of activities it performs. As for the 'Hello World' analogy, I'll reiterate... We know that 'hello world' is something that a human being would create in the sand, therefore it is highly likely that that particular instance of the phrase was created by a human being. We wouldn't refer to some abstract design detection algorithm that ignores the characteristics of the designer. And we wouldn't explore the nature of sand, and wether it had the innate properties that would allow it to clump in such ways. Yet ID doesn't make any claims about the identity, or even any of the caracteristics of the agent. It simply says we can 'detect design'. How? Absent an understanding of the designer, the only other way to do it is by comparing design to non-design.lastyearon
April 19, 2010
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For those who are interested Jay Richards has just written a response to Ed Feser, Frank Beckwith, Michael Tkacz, and Stephen Barr, at ENV: Responding to "Thomist" Critics of Intelligent Design Jay Richards http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/04/responding_to_thomist_critics.htmlbornagain77
April 19, 2010
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"That’s the topic of a conference I helped organize at Baylor a decade ago and whose proceedings (suitably updated) are coming out this year." I believe that means it's coming out this year.tragic mishap
April 19, 2010
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The OP is accompanied by a jpeg of a book cover, the title of which is The Nature of Nature: Examining the Role of Naturalism in Science. This book has been advertised at Amazon.com for almost two years, but as far as I can tell it does not exist. To me, this is extremely unfortunate. As far as I am aware no one has published anything on the metaphysical foundations of modern science since my old friend Ned Burtt did so in 1924. A book-length work on this subject would surely spark debate. Indeed, as someone who generally disagrees with Dr. Dembski, I would welcome a systematic presentation of his views on this subject. So, when is it coming out (if, as the jpeg of the cover indicates, it has already been designed and typeset)? [[Hi Allen: ISI Books, the publisher, misadvertised the book two years ago, indicating that it would come out February 2009 -- this early publication date was a mistake as the book could never have been available by then. We had hoped to have it ready by the fall of 2009 and out this winter, but the production process has been long and tedious (ISI has, for instance, never published a book laden with as much technical notation, so it's taken some time to get the typesetting process up to speed). The book is now typeset but having to be proofread. It is truly a monster -- ca. 500,000 words. I expect it to be out in July or August. --Bill]]Allen_MacNeill
April 19, 2010
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Although the erudite Platonists [Timeaus, analyzing the subject from the inside out and William Dembski, weighing in briefly] have not provided specific citations from the works of St. Thomas, their arguments showing the compatibility of ID and Thomism are perhaps the most illuminating of all, given that both commenters are only partially oriented to St. Thomas and can, nevertheless, detect the injustice that is being done in his name.StephenB
April 19, 2010
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Dr Beckwith, Given your learned accomplishments, I presume that you are aware of at least the general properties of competition (e.g. only the leader should defend, the weakness inherent in strength, the uncontested position, etc). In this case, the competition is that of opposing ideas. With that presumption in place, I would like to ask a question. Does it represent a failure of one’s position, if when one consistently evades the counterarguments to that position? Certainly it could be said that if one takes a position and then evades counterarguments, that this (in and of itself) is not a failure of the position, but merely reflects a failure of the one taking the position to adequately defend it. This observation is certainly true. However, you are a scholar with presumably expanded knowledge of the topic in question. You in fact lead your attack on ID under that guise. With that in mind, it seems to me that your evasion is not just a matter of your inability to defend your position, but is an indication that your position cannot be defended. So I ask the question: Does it represent a failure of one’s (scholarly) position, if counterarguments are never engaged?Upright BiPed
April 19, 2010
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I apologize to PaV, who also deserves to be placed on the above list of writers who presented evidence that Aquinas would not be anti ID. Here then is the latest summary: Supporting their arguments with quotes from the ID side, we have VJTorley, Thomas Cudworth, PaV, Clive Hayden, niwrad, and myself. Supporting their arguments with quotes from the anti-ID side, we have..............StephenB
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---fbeckwith: "I tried in my post–though it seems that I did not succeed–to communicate some of the things swirling about in my mind." Does the time ever come when you answer objections from those who disagree with those thoughts. VJTorley, niwrad, Thomas Cudworth, Clive Hayden, and yours truly have provided numerous quotes from the Angelic Doctor indicating that he would be closer to our side of the argument than yours. They have argued forcefully that Aquinas would have no problem with the ID paradigm, and each time they cited the relevant passages. Making grand claims about Aquinas' general philosophy of nature, recounting your educational history, alluding to your other writings, and appealing to other misguided neo-Thomists will not serve as an ample substitue for presenting the requisite chapter and verse to support your position.StephenB
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