Don’t black holes exist? But then what will popular culture do?

Where would Hawking be without his non-existent black holes?

Now even he claims there is no black hole. the bystander

There is a very simple reason that black holes do not exist and there is no need to bring complex math into the explanation. Black holes do not exist simply because they lead to an infinite regress. In fact, the very basis of black holes, Einstein's general relativity, is fundamentally wrong for the same reason. It predicts infinite gravity when the radius r approaches 0. Which means, if Einstein was right, there should be a black hole inside every particle. It's pathetic, really. I hope this will put an end to Stephen Hawking's irresistible urge to share his flawed opinion with the rest of the world. Where would Hawking be without his non-existent black holes? Mapou

There have been recent headlines claiming that black holes could not form from stars. However, even if true, there seems to be good evidence that they exist: Finally, there are observations consistent with black holes, quite independent of any theories of their origin from stars. They tend to attract matter that forms an accretion disc around the equator. This matter falls inward and releases much gravitational potential energy. In fact, this is an extremely efficient mass-to-energy conversion process, turning 40% of the mass into energy, compared to only about 1% with thermonuclear fusion. This can be observed as a strong X-ray source. The process also results in powerful relativistic jets from the poles. This would explain X-ray binaries: a black hole sucks matter away from a companion star. There are also observations consistent with supermassive black holes at the centre of galaxies, including our own. A certain star (S2) orbits around something in the galactic centre at a distance of 17 light hours (about three times that of Pluto), and period of only 15 years (Pluto’s is 248 years). This is consistent with the gravitational pull of 4.1 million solar masses. Furthermore, if this object were not smaller still, the star would collide with it; it’s likely only to be 6.25 light-hours, not much more than Pluto’s orbit. But the only object known to theory that could compact over 4 million solar masses into such a small volume is a black hole. http://creation.com/black-holes-lilith Christian-apologetics.org

As long as wormholes still exist pop culture will be fine. Mung

Entropy of the Universe – Hugh Ross – May 2010 Excerpt: Egan and Lineweaver found that supermassive black holes are the largest contributor to the observable universe’s entropy. They showed that these supermassive black holes contribute about 30 times more entropy than what the previous research teams estimated. http://www.reasons.org/entropy-universe Roger Penrose – How Special Was The Big Bang? “But why was the big bang so precisely organized, whereas the big crunch (or the singularities in black holes) would be expected to be totally chaotic? It would appear that this question can be phrased in terms of the behaviour of the WEYL part of the space-time curvature at space-time singularities. What we appear to find is that there is a constraint WEYL = 0 (or something very like this) at initial space-time singularities-but not at final singularities-and this seems to be what confines the Creator’s choice to this very tiny region of phase space.” “Einstein’s equation predicts that, as the astronaut reaches the singularity (of the black-hole), the tidal forces grow infinitely strong, and their chaotic oscillations become infinitely rapid. The astronaut dies and the atoms which his body is made become infinitely and chaotically distorted and mixed-and then, at the moment when everything becomes infinite (the tidal strengths, the oscillation frequencies, the distortions, and the mixing), spacetime ceases to exist.” Kip S. Thorne – “Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein’s Outrageous Legacy” pg. 476 Needless to say, the implications of this ‘eternity of destruction’ should be fairly disturbing for those of us who are of the ‘spiritually minded’ persuasion! excerpted from: Special Relativity, General Relativity, Heaven and Hell https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_4cQ7MXq8bLkoFLYW0kq3Xq-Hkc3c7r-gTk0DYJQFSg/edit bornagain77

I am a black hole skeptic in that I don't believe they are black or a hole. Is it possible that whatever these things are, they could be a massive object that is made up of the heaviest or densest material in the universe. For example the heaviest elements are sinking deeper into the centre of earth due to gravity and pressure, could the same be happening in areas of the universe. logically_speaking

Actually there is more evidence for Black holes than just Hawking radiation, How Can Black Holes Be Detected? - video http://www.space.com/10257-black-holes-detected.html NASA's Black-Hole-Hunter Catches Its First 10 Supermassive Black Holes - Sep. 9, 2013 — http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130909154918.htm bornagain77