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Durston on Miller’s Mendacity

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Readers of these pages are familiar with the logical fallacy known as Miller’s Mendacity.  From our glossary:

Miller’s Mendacity is a particular type of strawman fallacy frequently employed by Darwinists. It invariably consists of the following two steps:

1. Erect the strawman: The Darwinist falsely declares that intelligent design is based on the following assertion: If something is improbable it must have been designed.

2. Demolish the strawman: The Darwinist then demonstrates an improbable event that was obviously not designed (such as dealing a particular hand of cards from a randomized deck), and declares “ID is demolished because I have just demonstrated an extremely improbable event that was obviously not designed.”

Miller’s Mendacity is named for Brown University biochemist Ken Miller and is based on his statements in an interview with the BBC:

BBC Commenter: In two days of testimony [at the Dover trial] Miller attempted to knock down the arguments for intelligent design one by one. Also on his [i.e., Miller’s] hit list, Dembski’s criticism of evolution, that it was simply too improbable.

Miller: One of the mathematical tricks employed by intelligent design involves taking the present day situation and calculating probabilities that the present would have appeared randomly from events in the past. And the best example I can give is to sit down with four friends, shuffle a deck of 52 cards, and deal them out and keep an exact record of the order in which the cards were dealt. We can then look back and say ‘my goodness, how improbable this is. We can play cards for the rest of our lives and we would never ever deal the cards out in this exact same fashion.’ You know what; that’s absolutely correct. Nonetheless, you dealt them out and nonetheless you got the hand that you did.

BBC Commentator: For Miller, Dembski’s math did not add up. The chances of life evolving just like the chance of getting a particular hand of cards could not be calculated backwards. By doing so the odds were unfairly stacked. Played that way, cards and life would always appear impossible.

In a letter to Panda’s Thumb Miller denied that his card comment was a response to Dembski’s work. He said, “all I was addressing was a general argument one hears from many ID supporters in which one takes something like a particular amino acid sequence, and then calculates the probability of the exact same sequence arising again through mere chance.” The problem with Miller’s response is that even if one takes it at face value he still appears mendacious, because no prominent ID theorist has ever argued “X is improbable; therefore X was designed.”

Over at ENV Kirk Durston presents his take on the error, which we commend to our readers.

 

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bornagain77:
Was given to you.
Is this it? http://theoryofid.blogspot.com/ https://sites.google.com/site/theoryofid/home/TheoryOfIntelligentDesign.pdf That's at least what a (cognitive science) intelligence based "scientific theory" looks like. I need that from you bornagain77, Barry, News and others who profess belief in the obviously true (Theory of Intelligent Design).GaryGaulin
April 7, 2016
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Gary, don't forget to remind folks to click on your name.RexTugwell
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Was given to you. Sorry you don't accept it. Adios. I'm done with your self imposed blindness.bornagain77
April 7, 2016
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Show me your scientifically testable (to be either true or FALSE) “Theory of Intelligent Design”.GaryGaulin
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“The National Academy of Sciences has objected that intelligent design is not falsifiable, and I think that’s just the opposite of the truth. Intelligent design is very open to falsification. I claim, for example, that the bacterial flagellum could not be produced by natural selection; it needed to be deliberately intelligently designed. Well, all a scientist has to do to prove me wrong is to take a bacterium without a flagellum, or knock out the genes for the flagellum in a bacterium, go into his lab and grow that bug for a long time and see if it produces anything resembling a flagellum. If that happened, intelligent design, as I understand it, would be knocked out of the water. I certainly don’t expect it to happen, but it’s easily falsified by a series of such experiments. Now let’s turn that around and ask, How do we falsify the contention that natural selection produced the bacterial flagellum? If that same scientist went into the lab and knocked out the bacterial flagellum genes, grew the bacterium for a long time, and nothing much happened, well, he’d say maybe we didn’t start with the right bacterium, maybe we didn’t wait long enough, maybe we need a bigger population, and it would be very much more difficult to falsify the Darwinian hypothesis. I think the very opposite is true. I think intelligent design is easily testable, easily falsifiable, although it has not been falsified, and Darwinism is very resistant to being falsified. They can always claim something was not right.” - Dr Michael Behe "Now, one can’t have it both ways. One can’t say both that ID is unfalsifiable (or untestable) and that there is evidence against it. Either it is unfalsifiable and floats serenely beyond experimental reproach, or it can be criticized on the basis of our observations and is therefore testable. The fact that critical reviewers advance scientific arguments against ID (whether successfully or not) shows that intelligent design is indeed falsifiable. In fact, my argument for intelligent design is open to direct experimental rebuttal. Here is a thought experiment that makes the point clear. In Darwin’s Black Box (Behe 1996) I claimed that the bacterial flagellum was irreducibly complex and so required deliberate intelligent design. The flip side of this claim is that the flagellum can’t be produced by natural selection acting on random mutation, or any other unintelligent process. To falsify such a claim, a scientist could go into the laboratory, place a bacterial species lacking a flagellum under some selective pressure (for mobility, say), grow it for ten thousand generations, and see if a flagellum--or any equally complex system--was produced. If that happened, my claims would be neatly disproven." Michael Behe - clipped from: Confirmation of intelligent design predictions http://reasonandscience.heavenforum.org/t1659-confirmation-of-intelligent-design-predictions The Law of Physicodynamic Incompleteness - David L. Abel Excerpt: "If decision-node programming selections are made randomly or by law rather than with purposeful intent, no non-trivial (sophisticated) function will spontaneously arise." If only one exception to this null hypothesis were published, the hypothesis would be falsified. Falsification would require an experiment devoid of behind-the-scenes steering. Any artificial selection hidden in the experimental design would disqualify the experimental falsification. After ten years of continual republication of the null hypothesis with appeals for falsification, no falsification has been provided. The time has come to extend this null hypothesis into a formal scientific prediction: "No non trivial algorithmic/computational utility will ever arise from chance and/or necessity alone." https://www.academia.edu/Documents/in/The_Law_of_Physicodynamic_Incompleteness The Origin of Information: How to Solve It - Perry Marshall Where did the information in DNA come from? This is one of the most important and valuable questions in the history of science. Cosmic Fingerprints has issued a challenge to the scientific community: “Show an example of Information that doesn’t come from a mind. All you need is one.” “Information” is defined as digital communication between an encoder and a decoder, using agreed upon symbols. To date, no one has shown an example of a naturally occurring encoding / decoding system, i.e. one that has demonstrably come into existence without a designer. A private equity investment group is offering a technology prize for this discovery (up to 3 million dollars). We will financially reward and publicize the first person who can solve this;,,, To solve this problem is far more than an object of abstract religious or philosophical discussion. It would demonstrate a mechanism for producing coding systems, thus opening up new channels of scientific discovery. Such a find would have sweeping implications for Artificial Intelligence research. http://cosmicfingerprints.com/solve/bornagain77
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It’s Easier to Falsify Intelligent Design than Darwinian Evolution – Michael Behe, PhD
Then show me your scientifically testable (to be either true or FALSE) "Theory of Intelligent Design".GaryGaulin
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It's Easier to Falsify Intelligent Design than Darwinian Evolution - Michael Behe, PhD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T1v_VLueGk "In so far as a scientific statement speaks about reality, it must be falsifiable; and in so far as it is not falsifiable, it does not speak about reality." Karl Popper - The Two Fundamental Problems of the Theory of Knowledge (2014 edition), Routledge http://izquotes.com/quote/147518 Theism compared to Materialism/Naturalism - an overview – video https://www.facebook.com/philip.cunningham.73/videos/vb.100000088262100/1139512636061668/?type=2&theaterbornagain77
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The argument from ignorance (or argumentum ad ignorantiam and negative proof) is a logical fallacy that claims the truth of a premise is based on the fact that it has not been proven false, or that a premise is false because it has not been proven true. This is often phrased as "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". If the only evidence for something's existence is a lack of evidence for it not existing, then the default position is one of mild skepticism and not credulity. This type of negative proof is common in proofs of God's existence or in pseudosciences where it is used as an attempt to shift the burden of proof onto the skeptic rather than the proponent of the idea. The burden of proof is on the individual proposing existence, not the one questioning existence. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignoranceGaryGaulin
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Darwinian Evolution is a Unfalsifiable Pseudo-Science - Mathematics – video (2016) https://www.facebook.com/philip.cunningham.73/videos/vb.100000088262100/1132659110080354/?type=2&theater Michael Behe - Observed (1 in 10^20) Edge of Evolution - video - Lecture delivered in April 2015 at Colorado School of Mines 25:56 minute quote - "This is not an argument anymore that Darwinism cannot make complex functional systems; it is an observation that it does not." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9svV8wNUqvAbornagain77
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Barry Arrington:
As you’ve been saying for some time now, the really interesting story here is the psychological story. Why do people profess belief in the obviously (to others) false?
Interesting question Barry. Since you do not seem to believe in having to provide testable evidence that a belief is true I need to ask you and News how you would know whether or not you profess belief in the obviously false?GaryGaulin
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In all honesty, I think that the probabilistic arguments are good but what they do not take into account is non-ergodicity of evolution, i.e. it might have been so that it did not need to traverse the entire vast space of possibilities. So with all due respect, this argument is not made of iron. The real killer is the source of the first coherent set of instructions for the integrated circuitry of minimal metabolic pathways and reproduction, including long term symbolic memory, in the proto-cell together with a processor that would interpret and execute them! There is no way whatsoever naturalism can get away with it. This semiotic complex of {data,processor} is irreducible and yet forms core of all known life (including viruses that critically depend on host cells and their reproduction cycle).EugeneS
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Any specific 15 card result has the same probability of occurring (almost zero) as any other specific 15 card result. The point is that only (4) specific 15-card results guarantees a win (or at least a tie) in three consecutive events, no matter what else happens. That means that the designer or cheater has already taken into account the various "classes of outcomes" and where they rank in the hierarchy. Thus, if any one player draws three royal flushes in a row, he (or someone) has obviously cheated. It is silly to use the fact that all other specified results are equally unlikely as a defense. In essence, Miller is making that same silly argument.StephenB
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About the mathematics . . . It is true that from a mathematical point of view every 5-card hand of poker is just as likely as any other; assuming a random distribution. That's considering the suit of each card. Let's just be really clear here: it is true that randomly picking five cards from a standard pack of 52 is just as likely to give A-spades, A-clubs, A-diamonds, A-hearts, 3-hearts AS 10-spades, J-hearts, 3-clubs, 7-diamonds, A-spades. The hierarchy of poker hands is determined by classes of outcomes: any two pair vs any three of a kind, etc. Certain 'kinds' of hands are more or less likely not any specific 5-card result. Each suit-specific 5-card hand is just as likely (i.e. close to zero) as any other suit-specific hand.ellazimm
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ID proponent: "You cheated." Miller: "No, I didn't. The probability that I would receive three consecutive royal flushes is exactly the same probability that you would receive precisely the same 15 cards that you received."StephenB
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Darwinists are truly in a panic. Quite entertaining, actually.Truth Will Set You Free
April 7, 2016
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A typo in the OP: Durston's first name is Kirk, not Kurt. Thanks. (Fixed. - News)EugeneS
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News, Indeed. It is getting to the point that refuting the nonsense is almost beside the point. No one believes it, least of all those who say they do. As you've been saying for some time now, the really interesting story here is the psychological story. Why do people profess belief in the obviously false?Barry Arrington
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Darwinism works exceptionally well as a secular religion because its main premise (that information arises from chaos) is obviously false. The willingness to believe a demonstrably false proposition, evident everywhere among media professionals, signals a willingness to believe many more falsehoods as required, to get on in the current environment. And the falsehoods to be believed are not in short supply. How about evolutionary psychology, crackpot cosmology, and apes entering the Stone Age, just to get started. More will be added later, of course.News
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