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Eugene Koonin: REALLY Big Numbers Solve the Problem of the Origin of Life — and Hence, There’s No Need for Design

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If you visit Eugene Koonin’s lab at the NCBI — that’s Dr. Koonin standing just to the right of the woman in the red sweater — brush up on your Russian. Many of the most prolific scientists in comparative genomics work in Koonin’s group, hail from Russia, and love the Big Questions, such as the origin of life.

In a new, open access paper, Koonin argues that the problem of the origin of life may under current scenarios be intractable:

Despite considerable experimental and theoretical effort, no compelling scenarios currently exist for the origin of replication and translation, the key processes that together comprise the core of biological systems and the apparent pre-requisite of biological evolution. The RNA World concept might offer the best chance for the resolution of this conundrum but so far cannot adequately account for the emergence of an efficient RNA replicase or the translation system.

Is design implicated? Hang on, not yet:

All this is not to suggest that OORT [origins of replication and translation] is a problem of “irreducible complexity” and that the systems of replication and translation could not emerge by means of biological evolution. It remains possible that a compelling evolutionary scenario is eventually developed and, perhaps, validated experimentally. However, it is clear that OORT is not just the hardest problem in all of evolutionary biology but one that is qualitatively distinct from the rest. For all other problems, the basis of biological evolution, genome replication, is in place but, in the case of OORT, the emergence of this mechanism itself is the explanandum. Thus, it is of interest to consider radically different scenarios for OORT.

Koonin’s solution? Open your Epicurus, and read along with me. Make the number of trials (i.e., chances) REALLY big. Developing what he calls the “many worlds in one” (MWO) hypothesis, Koonin argues that what looks unlikely — the de novo origin of self-replicating biological systems — is bound to happen:

The MWO version of the cosmological model of eternal inflation could suggest a way out of this conundrum because, in an infinite multiverse with a finite number of distinct macroscopic histories (each repeated an infinite number of times), emergence of even highly complex systems by chance is not just possible but inevitable.

Because such emergence is guaranteed mathematically (never mind the messy chemical details, folks, just focus on the large numbers — you’re bound to win the lottery if you buy enough tickets), there’s no need for the design hypothesis:

A final comment on “irreducible complexity” and “intelligent design”. By showing that highly complex systems, actually, can emerge by chance and, moreover, are inevitable, if extremely rare, in the universe, the present model sidesteps the issue of irreducibility and leaves no room whatsoever for any form of intelligent design.

As this paper and the reviewers’ comments are open access, here’s something fun to try. Download the whole fascinating exchange, and search on “ID” and “intelligent design.” This paper continues a trend I noted some time ago, namely, that scientists don’t listen to federal judges (thank goodness) or the pronunciamentos of national science organizations. Rather, they alight on any interesting question, kick it around, and let the results fall where they may.

And thus the future of open inquiry is assured.

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DaveScot, I'm pretty much with you on this one. However, I will put in the Dodgen caviat -- if a credible path from inanimate matter to DNA based life can be scientifically demonstrated, I am willing to throw in the "agency" towell. I may seriously reconsider Denton's "law" model, however.bFast
June 22, 2007
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The way you falsify “big numbers” is to take away the materialists access to infinity. For the anthropic principle, revealed by universal constants, this is somewhat difficult since the materialists allude to “untestable” multiverse.
I strongli think that this is a field in which an insanable contradiction exists within the materialistic field. Please follow the points. 1. They speculate about the actual existence of an unlimited universe (or multiverse) with an infinite amount of matter. This allow them to claim for negatively discard of any conceivable ID probabilistic argument. BUT 2. Philosophically the existence of the actual infinite CANNOT be tested because there's and there will be no possibility at all to observe, count, experiment, etc. an inifinite amount of objects of phenomena. In other words, ANY argument involving the existence of a whichever infinite IS NOT SCIENTIFIC AT ALL because the universe that we can say and we'll ever see is FINITE. SO 3. Anyone who is trying to show that ID arguments are unscientific by using the infinite can be charged of contradiction.kairos
June 22, 2007
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"Just add time and really big numbers". Reason, logic and the scientific method are thrown to the winds in desperation to fend off teleology. Just imply it is "scientific" - after all, a scientist is proclaiming it. No way to observationally confirm the existence of any of these other universes? No way to falsify the hypothesis? Not to worry, anything to fend off notions of ID. He carefully chooses the kind of infinite multiverse he wants, "....an infinite multiverse with a finite number of distinct macroscopic histories (each repeated an infinite number of times)". Any reason to suggest that this particular kind of partial infinity is the one? No, but it seems to lead where he wants to go. Where he wants to go is to anything that avoids teleology even with greatest strainings of credulity. Of course that must be the truth, since anything else would be unthinkable, strictly taboo. He points out that in this infinite multiverse even an OOL event way below Dembski's limit of submicroscopic improbability would happen. In fact it would happen an infinite number of times. But everything else would happen an infinite number of times. So all the uncountable events, "random" mutations, etc. that happened in evolution also had to happen an infinite number of times on an infinite number of other earths. So they were also inevitable and didn't require a designer, any more than the origin of life. But since all these incredible number of events in the history of life were inevitable, Darwinistic processes had nothing to do with evolution - it all just happened. No need for any explanation. This sort of idea foisted off as a valid hypothesis is a reductio ad absurdum of muddled philosophical thinking. I agree with Behe in Edge of Evolution that this is akin to abandoning reason altogether.magnan
June 22, 2007
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Paul or anyone else reading this thread, I ahve heard it said over and over again that we have seen evidence of MICRO-EVOLUTION but have not seen any evidence of MACRO-EVOLUTION. I would be interested in reading your response to this evidence presented by evolutionists : According to Campbell and Reece, the authors of an introductory biology textbook, macroevolution is defined as : "Change in allele frequencies at or ABOVE the species level." Origin of life theories are certainly related to macroevolution. They depend on macroevolution, but the opposite is not true ( macroevolution need not be related to origin of life ). Based on my understanding of Campbell and Reece, Even if it were shown that the Flying Spaghetti Monster was responsible for creating the first prokaryote, it would not negate macroevolution. Change in allele frequencies at or above the species level has been readily observed. They also showed a novel example about meiosis errors in a plant resulting in offspring with polyploidy. If two organisms cannot produce viable offspring, then they conclude that these two organisms belong to different species. The offspring with polyploidy cannot reproduce with other members of the parent species. Therefore, it is a different species. Hence, Macroevolution has occurred. This is but one example. The textbook I mentioned includes several more. I think someone actually wrote a paper that showed Random Mutation can create novel cell types, tissue types, organs, or body plans. SEE HERE : http://www.proteinscience.org/cgi/content/short/13/10/2651 I would be interested in hearing Paul's or anyone else's opinion on this one. THANKS.SeekAndFind
June 22, 2007
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Dave, The OOL guys might eventually come up with a self-replicating molecule or chemical system, but they'd still have to demonstrate that stochastic processes and selection could add information and integrated functional complexity.GilDodgen
June 22, 2007
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Gil I agree with the roosky that OOL is by far the biggest problem in evolution sans intelligent agency. If that could be credibly demonstrated I'm prepared to concede that the lesser problems which follow don't require intelligent agency either.DaveScot
June 22, 2007
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"In an infinite number of universes the presence of a designing intelligence is not just a possibility but an inevitability." I was thinking the same thing :) Also, even if you get rid of the relevance of the fine-tuning apparent in this universe - washing it out by hypothesizing the existence of an infinite array of universes - what then are the grand GRAND laws that are now imposed on this infinite array of universes? Allowing them to take on any possible 'shape'? Existing as they do along side all of the other universes?Tedsenough
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Russ ask. I’m not sure if this is a dumb question, but how would you falsify such a “big numbers” hypothesis? The way you falsify "big numbers" is to take away the materialists access to infinity. For the anthropic principle, revealed by universal constants, this is somewhat difficult since the materialists allude to "untestable" multiverse. The extreme uniqueness of the earth itself to host life suffers from our limits of observation in the overall universe, though statistical analysis does play in designs favor at this level. Yet once we reach the level of life here on earth the materialists is severely constrained in ever allding to "really big numbers" That is why Dembski's and Behe's work in ID created such a stir in scientific circles, since they effectively took away the materialists "blind chance of infinite numbers" by clearly defining the CSI of a irreducibly complex system. There is simply no way for materialists to allude to infinity at the level of molecular biology.bornagain77
June 22, 2007
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"the origin of replication and translation, the key processes that together comprise the core of biological systems and the apparent pre-requisite of biological evolution." Then: "All this is not to suggest that OORT [origins of replication and translation] is a problem of “irreducible complexity” and that the systems of replication and translation could not emerge by means of biological evolution." Huh? Before it was a pre-requisite (R&T) for biological evolution, now biological evolution is the means by which R&T can emerge?Tedsenough
June 22, 2007
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Oh goody, I espy a Russian petard positioned for a hoisting of its owner. In an infinite number of universes the presence of a designing intelligence is not just a possibility but an inevitability. :lol:DaveScot
June 22, 2007
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"So, even if the OOL guys were to explain the origin of life, they’d still have their work cut out for them, but they don’t seem to realize it." Of course they don't. That would be the science stopper of Darwinism. ;-)Borne
June 22, 2007
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Was Koonin educated in Soviet Russia? That would explain alot.christopheratlee
June 22, 2007
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Something I've noticed concerning origin of life researchers is that they almost universally assume that once self-replication was established, Darwinian mechanisms took over and explain all the rest of life's complexity, diversity, machinery and information content. Dawkins has commented: "Biology used to be a mystery. Darwin solved that." Of course, Darwin didn't "solve that," and as Michael Behe elucidates in The Edge of Evolution, Darwinian mechanisms don't explain very much of anything except the extremely trivial. So, even if the OOL guys were to explain the origin of life, they'd still have their work cut out for them, but they don't seem to realize it. The similarities between Darwinian aspirations concerning mechanisms and attempts to invent a perpetual-motion machine seem obvious. It was once believed that something (energy) could be gotten for nothing, but the conservation laws of physics won't permit it. Darwinists assume that once self-replication was established, something (biological complexity, diversity, machinery and information content) could be had for nothing -- just add time and REALLY BIG numbers. Good luck.GilDodgen
June 22, 2007
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Koonin, "It remains possible that a compelling evolutionary scenario is [will be] eventually developed and, perhaps, validated experimentally." Koonin's accent diminishes the truth of this statement. It is conceivable that one day we will be able to conceive of a viable just so story that could produce life. IE, we are a long way from this home!! We have an hypthesis (conjecture) -- the WMO -- that rescues us from the great satan, ID. As long as we can conjecture some alternative, ID should necessarily be flatly rejected. That is Koonin's position in a nutshell. This is the scientific community's position in a nutshell.bFast
June 22, 2007
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So amino acids are Sliders now? How did they build their wormhole generator? With little molecular wrenches?angryoldfatman
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I'm not sure if this is a dumb question, but how would you falsify such a "big numbers" hypothesis?russ
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Excuse me but is this really new? I've been at this debate for well over a decade and it always comes down to large number of trials (because one can imagine such a large number of trials, because ONE design is like soooo unacceptable) coupled with sheer dumb luck. Never does any multiverse proposer realize that a multiverse scenario is A) Metaphysical and B) does not exclude a deigner (or multiple designers). All things are deemed "inevitable". There is no longer any murder- it was inevitable. Arson- gone. SETI?- all signals are inevitable, pack it up and go home. Hey I like this "science"...Joseph
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