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I’m opening a thread for those who would like to report their impressions of seeing the movie Expelled as well the numbers of viewers and their reactions to the movie.

Here is my report:

Location: Memphis, TN Stage 13 Cinema, just north of Cordova Tennessee
2:00 PM Friday Showing

I expected to see only 3 people at the 2PM showing, but there were 60 people! I asked what people thought, they said they would recommend the movie to their friends. They braved bad weather to get here.

The ticket manager said she had a steady stream of positive comments from the movie goers.

The audience was laughing at Richard Dawkins. They seemed in awe of the cellular animation, and they gasped at the images of the Nazi death camps.

In the movie, Uta George, the director of the Hadamar Gas Chamber Memorial explicitly said that the Nazis drew inspiration from Darwin. Darwinism was associated with atheism, eugenics — along with various macabre images. ID was associated with freedom, morality, and heroism. That went over well with the audience….

Will Provine’s interview was very noteworthy. Provine is a good friend of Phil Johnson, and has shown himself to be honorable in treatment of pro-ID students even though Provine himself rejects ID. Some of his statements brought a chill. He said that life has no meaning, no free will, no morality. He said he may put a gun to his head one day because he faces the possibility of terminal illness. I was very sorry to hear this. Up until today, I was not sure that part of Will’s interview would air….

You’ll see Will at the end of the movie saying he applauds students who, after weighing the evidence, decide to become creationists. Thus, Will came across as the most honorable of the non-ID side. In contrast, Dawkins looked like a buffoon. When Berlinski called Dawkins a “reptile” the audience was in stitches laughing….

I also attended the later 4:50 showing, and about 70 people were there.

I asked people what they thought and how they heard about the movie. Much of the word spread through the churches and radio. The negative reviews such as USA Today were ignored by those buying tickets….

It is hard to say whether what is happening here in Memphis can be extrapolated anywhere else. So I hope some of you from other parts of the world will report. My thanks in advance to those providing reports….

Comments
here is another amusing bit of hypocritical reviewing: Expelled: This is propaganda, a political rant disguised as a serious commentary on stifled freedom of inquiry. Full Review | Comment 04/18/08 12:22 PM Claudia Puig USA Today Top Critic Farenheit 911: The documentary's scathing attack on the war in Iraq and George W. Bush's presidency is informative, provocative, frightening, compelling, funny, manipulative and, most of all, entertaining. Full Review | Comment 06/24/04 04:54 PM Claudia Puig USA Today Top Criticinterested
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this one is consistent: The prospect of a pro-Intelligent Design documentary sounded so batsh** crazy,it had to be awesome, watching intellectuals spin a story about how they're persecuted for their beliefs.Not to say I didn't give it a fair chance,but they made it really easy. Full Review | Comment 04/18/08 10:45 PM Fred Topel Can Magazine vs Moore has resorted to showing us stuff that The Daily Show covers all the time. Did you really need this film to tell you that war is bad? Full Review | Comment 06/23/04 11:12 PM Fred Topel About.cominterested
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this could be fun.....let's find scathing reviews on rotten tomatoes and then compare them to what the SAME reviewer said about Farenheit 911........here's one: The movie itself is an example of design by faith and emotion rather than intelligence, defined as rationality grounded in proof. Full Review | Comment 04/18/08 05:07 AM Nell Minow Chicago Sun-Times Top Critic An unabashedly partisan challenge both to the administration and to all who accept what they are told without questioning...If this be treason, make the most of it! Full Review | Comment 06/25/04 06:33 PM Nell Minow Movie Mom at Yahoo! Moviesinterested
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By the way, here is a link to Jack Kreb's impressions in Lawrence Kansas. Some Expelled News from Kansasscordova
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Apologies to the commenters in advance for the delays in posting your responses. The spam filter is set very high as UD is under intense spam attacks at this time. Thank you in advance for your patience.scordova
April 19, 2008
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Two major concerns have been alleviated at for the time being: 1. the movie would have only two or three people showing up to each showing 2. the movie would not be liked by those in attendance When they had the screening of Expelled at McLean Bible Church in Mclean Virginia, the reaction was lukewarm. ID and intellectual type issues have been a hard sell to evangelistic organizations. I warned Motive marketing that they would not exactly get the welcoming arms that the Darwinists have suggested they would. Evangelical churches have about 10-20% Darwinists like Francis Collins. Even a pro-ID pastor is not exactly eager to bring division to his congregation knowing he has upstanding citizens like Collins in his congregation...(by the way, it is rumored Caroline Crocker is scheduled to speak at Collin's church about the movie...yikes!) And myself, since there was not as much novelty about ID, was not as enamored with the movie as those new to the movement. And I hoped that my feelings would not be representative of how others would react. So, when I saw the good attendance and the enthusiastic reactions I was much relieved. The viral marketing has really only begun. People will be telling their friends and theater managers will see this movie translates into $$$ for them. I do not think many pastors wish to sponsor the movie officially for the reasons I mentioned, however, their congregations will. I have no doubt of that now that I've seen that people really like the movie... Finally, I have to address the usual garbage that Jack Krebs puts forward in his opening day impression at PT:
It seems to me that Expelled has blown the last vestiges of the ID movement’s attempt to pretend that they are just about science,
1. The ID movment is not all about science, and they never said so. That is a Darwinist Strawman. ID theory is not the same as the ID movement. The ID movement is about academic freedom and the rights of scientists, teachers, and students to have their legal and ethical rights restored to them which the Darwinists are depriving them of. The ID movement is about helping restore integrity to the institutions and processes of science and restoring dignity and value to human life which the Darwinsits have devalued as evidenced by Eugenics and the Nazi death camps. The ID movement is about allowing citizens (in places like the USA where their founding documents speak of a Creator) the right to pursue the study the works of that Creator. The Darwinists say the Creator does not exist. That is at variance with very foundations of the law of the land... 2. ID as a theory (not as a movement) is a scientific hypothesis that design can be identified. The laws of thermodynamics tells us that the universe had a beginning. Thermodynamics also tells us the physics have a begining(John Wheeler's argument, laws of physics are not from everlasting to everlasting). But a beginning of the universe and the laws of physics have theological impications. Thus the laws of thermodynamics, though purely scientific, have theological implications. The same is true of ID. And if ID can be successfully framed in terms of a 4th law of thermodynamics, then it deserves a place as a scientific theory, even though it has tremendous theological implications. As the 2nd law of thermodynamcis has theological implications, so does the 4th law... So Jack is resorting to a strawman argument by distorting the meaning of what ID proponents have put on the table.scordova
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I was concerned that the Nazi connection would be overplayed. It was not. The central theme was the Berlin Wall. I thought it worked quite well. The reviews have been unfair and out of touch. Here is my shameless plug.bevets
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I saw it a few hours ago, Boulder, CO, 4:45pm session. About 30 people. I was surprised by the ending drawing the lines between Hitler and Darwin. I thought it was unnecessary, perhaps. And then, perhaps it's time to really slap the Darwinists about a bit. I took a Catholic girl to watch the movie, she liked it too. A few chuckles, which I sort of lead :)Gods iPod
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10:20am showing at Loews Jersey Gardens near Newark, NJ. Six people for this early bird first showing. However, my parents in Scottsdale, AZ said the theater was full at the 12:30 pm showing, probably because of heavy promotion in churches there. The area where I saw the film is mostly lower to lower middle class and recent immigrant communities, which probably isn't the best demographic for this type of film, IMHO. Great movie, but my skeptical friend slept through half of it (he's 70, and a regular napper).russ
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I saw the first showing today. There were about 30 people in the theater, most of whom seemed to enjoy it quite a bit. I quite liked it. It was an interesting combination of whacky and deadly serious. At one point I was afraid that it would remain very goofballish and a bit shallow, but I was surprised by how heavy it became for a stretch (and necessarily so). I highly recommend it. I find it amusing that it is just a nine at rottentomatoes. 18 out of 20 reviewers seem constitutionally afraid of sticking their necks out and expressing the slightest approval for anything coming from the hated "creationists". I guess they want to hold on to their careers (and prejudices) or something. These are no doubt the same folks who wholeheartedly approve of propagandistic schlock from Morgan Spurlock or Michael Moore. But no one gets in any trouble for cheering that stuff.Matteo
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Thank you all for the initial reports. The 7:10 showing in Memphis was sold out!!!scordova
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Blogpulse for Expelled Stein already shows a 1000% increase. Blogpulse for Expelled shows a similar 500% increase over the last month.DLH
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12:05pm Hurst, Texas First showing, maybe a dozen people, mostly middle-aged couples. There were audible chuckles during the Dawkins interviews as well as Berlinki's 'reptile' comment (one of them was mine). The Provine interview was somewhat odd and sad at the same time. I was impressed that the interviews seemed equally weighted to each side. Much has been said about the Darwin/Nazi connection in the movie, but it seemed contextually appropriate and handled respectfully. This ought to be merely the first of many well crafted excursions into the mainstream with ID. With such a small crowd, I was struck to hear sustained applause, that's rare.CatSlinger
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For those of you in the Chicago area, I'm running an event Monday at 5:45 PM at the Regal Cinemas Lincolnshire 20 with Dr. Paul Nelson, who appears in the film. The event is sponsored by the Truth Seekers club I run at Stevenson High School. We have a contract with the theater to show "Expelled," and then Dr. Nelson will run a Q&A for 1-hour afterwards. If you're nearby and you want to bring someone you think would have some tough questions for Dr. Nelson, then you're welcome to come. Buy tickets online at https://blackboard1.district125.k12.il.us/webapps/portal/frameset.jsp?tab_id=_8_1 Look for "Ben Stein Movie" link on the left. Nealnroys
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There aren't any local showings near me, otherwise I would check it out. I tried looking at rottentomatoes.com to see the reviews. So far it's getting a 9 on the T meter. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/expelled_no_intelligence_allowed/Fross
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12:20pm Arbor - Great Hills, Austin 70 people Some laughter, not a lot. Some groaning at the gratuitous God bashing, not a lot. Loud applause lasting about 1 minute from most of the audience at the conclusion.DaveScot
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