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Feminized men and the problem of social unrest

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There are few things more disgusting than a morally weak man who will pay any price to avoid making enemies. He is so worried about how he is perceived that he cannot be trusted to make sound judgments in any moral conflict. Almost always, he takes a knee when he should be standing firm; almost always, he gives up ground that he should be holding.

If only he would realize that a pound of early resistance is worth a ton of counter revolutionary warfare. Of course, he doesn’t get the point because his main concern is to remain popular with the people who are supposed to matter.

Consider a contemporary social problem. Violent mobs are destroying parts of cities, tearing down statues, looting at will, and injuring (sometimes killing) innocent people. Yet no one is doing anything about it. Where are the community leaders who are supposed to be preserving order, especially those who call themselves political conservatives?

These girlish men are so terrified that someone will accuse them of being a racist — or a murderer — that they refuse to put an end to these outrages. At times, they even ask their policemen to stand down, even when the motives of the lawbreakers are political and have nothing to do with any just grievance. Members and leaders of these mobs have made it clear that their ultimate purpose is to drive Donald Trump out of office. They are all self-identified “Marxists.”

As indicated, lawlessness usually manifests itself in stages and this problem is no different. First, it was the social pressure applied by the thought police, followed by the physical threats courtesy of violence-inciting politicians (Thank you, Maxine Waters), leading to the physical violence perpetrated by the mobs (Thank you, Black Lives Matter).

It begins with “I can’t endure your point of view, please find a safe space for me,” morphs into “if you disagree with me, just shut up,” expands into “if you don’t shut up, I will hurt you,” and ends with “perhaps these fists pounding into your face will make my point.” Goodbye to civil discourse — goodbye to honest dialogue — goodbye to reason and evidence-based debate.

A real man, when he is being smeared and slandered, will take charge early, hold his ground, and insist on his God-given right to speak freely. He turns the tables and asks the trouble-makers to explain themselves and their rationale. Having reframed the issue, he is now on the offense

But the feminized man remains on defense, explains himself unrestrainedly, and apologizes to the barbarians for “offending” them, setting the stage for phase 2. Barbarians are experts at detecting the weakness associated with unprincipled blathering. Because most leaders are feminized men, the barbarians are winning.

The barbarians I can endure, though with great difficulty. But please God, spare me from the pusillanimous, pandering, peace-at-any-cost, girly men.

34 Replies to “Feminized men and the problem of social unrest

  1. 1
    Ed George says:

    SB

    These girlish men are so terrified that someone will accuse them of being a racist

    If I thought you were using “girly man” in the tongue-in-cheek way that Arnie did on SNL, I would laugh. But…, you are obviously implying that women are quivering, inferior beings. Do you enjoy being single?

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    ET says:

    LoL! @ Acartia Eddie- Nice to see that you are still struggling with English. Just because YOU inferred something does NOT mean StephenB implied it. You must be one desperate troll to put words in someone else’s mouth and then attack that strawman.

    Nicely done, loser

  3. 3
    Seversky says:

    Somebody’s been watching too much John Wayne – “Never apologize, mister, it’s a sign of weakness!”

    What happens when the manly man is in the wrong but refuses to apologize or even admit being in the wrong because he thinks it’s a sign of weakness? You think that is macho and honorable?

    Interesting you equate traits such as pusillanimity and weakness with feminization. I have known females who would be more than happy to disabuse you of such notions.

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    StephenB says:

    Ed George,
    —“If I thought you were using “girly man” in the tongue-in-cheek way that Arnie did on SNL, I would laugh. But…, you are obviously implying that women are quivering, inferior beings. Do you enjoy being single?”

    You misunderstand. Women, like men, can be capable of both fighting (valor, aggressiveness, persistence, etc), and loving (compassion, gentleness, inclusiveness etc.) and this is a good thing. However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues. This makes him a moral failure.

    For women, the same principle applies in reverse. A woman who practices the manly virtues at the expense of the feminine virtues is also a moral failure. In our perverse culture, there are too many men who are afraid to be men and too many women who are afraid to be women.

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    StephenB says:

    Ed George @1,
    — If I thought you were using “girly man” in the tongue-in-cheek way that Arnie did on SNL, I would laugh. But…, you are obviously implying that women are quivering, inferior beings. Do you enjoy being single?”

    You misunderstand. Women, like men, can be capable of both fighting (valor, aggressiveness, persistence, etc), and loving (compassion, gentleness, inclusiveness etc.) and this is a good thing. However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues. This makes him a moral failure.

    For women, the same principle applies in reverse. A woman who practices the manly virtues at the expense of the feminine virtues is also a moral failure. In our perverse culture, there are too many men who are afraid to be men and too many women who are afraid to be women.

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    bornagain77 says:

    “In our perverse culture, there are too many men who are afraid to be men and too many women who are afraid to be women.” ,,, and apparently, according to the recent Supreme Court ruling, plenty of men who prefer to be women and women who prefer to be men.

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    StephenB says:

    Seversky

    —“Somebody’s been watching too much John Wayne – “Never apologize, mister, it’s a sign of weakness!”

    Who said anything like that? Not me. Please try again.

    —“What happens when the manly man is in the wrong but refuses to apologize or even admit being in the wrong because he thinks it’s a sign of weakness? You think that is macho and honorable?”

    Do I really need to explain that the purpose of an apology is to express sorrow for doing something wrong, not to avoid a moral conflict. You are much too smart to be missing that point.

    —“Interesting you equate traits such as pusillanimity and weakness with feminization. I have known females who would be more than happy to disabuse you of such notions.”

    No, I don’t. I equate it with an overabundance of feminism in a man.

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    StephenB says:

    Seversky

    —?What happens when the manly man is in the wrong but refuses to apologize or even admit being in the wrong because he thinks it’s a sign of weakness? You think that is macho and honorable??

    No, The purpose of an apology is to express sorrow for doing something wrong, not to placate your enemy by abandoning your convictions.

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    News says:

    May I be permitted to say a word on behalf of xx’s? Most xx’s who have never found any reason to question their sex assignment DEPEND on men to do things we’d rather not. I don’t WANT to deal with the crazy ass with a grudge against City Hall wielding a gun. I just want to get kids and old people out of the way and let a guy deal with him. For various reasons that have to do with biology, the guy is probably way better able to deal with him anyhow. I’d be better at keeping everyone calm. How did it get to the point that people doubt this kind of thing?

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    Ed George says:

    SB

    However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues. This makes him a moral failure.

    So, according to you, women are moral failures. Are you really sure you want to keep digging this hole?

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    ET says:

    Acartia Eddie:

    So, according to you, women are moral failures.

    That doesn’t follow from anything he posted. What is your issue with lying?

  12. 12
    Blastus says:

    C. S. Lewis wrote in an oft quoted passage of “men without chests”. https://www.cslewisinstitute.org/Men_without_Chests

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    EDTA says:

    It is those who forsake their God-given role and attempt to assume the opposite who are being criticized here. I thought that was clear.

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    AaronS1978 says:

    @ Ed

    “For women, the same principle applies in reverse. A woman who practices the manly virtues at the expense of the feminine virtues is also a moral failure. In our perverse culture, there are too many men who are afraid to be men and too many women who are afraid to be women.”

    He didn’t, that followed exactly the thing that you cut and paste

    I’m pretty sure he’s part of the same crowd I am women are different but equal

    Hence why I transgender woman can set records in a all women’s bicycle race in France

    There is simply biological differences and not acknowledging those biological differences one way or another makes you a moral failure

    And that goes for both sexes

    Women arent weak, I can’t have a baby that’s impossible for me and I’m not capable of it
    And I never will be

    We are both required to create life
    We both play a role equally important
    We are both different
    But we are all human
    And that makes us equal

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    EDTA says:

    Sev,
    >” I have known females who would be more than happy to disabuse you of such notions.”

    I know you know us well enough to know that we won’t accept anecdotal evidence to overturn a general claim. Yes, there are manly women out there who would gladly beat up a man. I’ve met them too. But in general, women aren’t possessed of the degree of aggressiveness that men are. Nor are women on average stronger physically.

    But in the Left’s blind headlong rush to create a utopia, they forgot that there could be actual differences between the sexes–differences we ignore at our own peril.

    Consider this a little more abstractly: If two equal groups begin with one on top, it isn’t unreasonable to assume that they could switch places. With institutional/political guards in place, the switch could become permanent. But if there are fundamental asymmetries, then any move towards equality or outright switching will take continuous effort on the part of the less-powerful group and/or continuous permission on the part of the stronger. I.e., the effort and/or permission will be needed indefinitely.

    Which situation better explains what we actually see?

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    News says:

    From the xx perspective: The overwhelming majority of women do not want to beat up men. Such an idea plays no role in their interests in life. What they want is peace, order, and prosperity.

    If a fire breaks out, there is a fire department one can call.

    If a bear is sighted on the outskirts of town, there are wildlife services one can call.

    A person who goes downtown to do legitimate business is completely safe, at least in principle.

    We pay taxes, but so? We are free to discuss the bill at election time.

    For sure, none of these revolutionaries has come up with a better system.

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    StephenB says:

    SB: However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues. This makes him a moral failure.

    Ed George

    —-“So, according to you, women are moral failures. Are you really sure you want to keep digging this hole?”

    Please explain how you drew that incredible conclusion. Show all your work from start to finish. I want to know every step in your reasoning process so that I can help you to understand your confusion.

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    polistra says:

    You sound just like Trump. A world-destroying psychopath is a Real Man. Anything less than a universe-consuming mass murderer is a Very Weak Loser With Small Hands.

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    EDTA says:

    >” A world-destroying psychopath is a Real Man. Anything less than a universe-consuming mass murderer is a Very Weak Loser With Small Hands.”

    Kind of extreme, but I understand why people cast things as extremes…it’s easier (to a point) to do it. But It leads to a lot of mud slinging along the way.

    Actually, we’re overlapping bell curves to be more precise, with the median man being more aggressive than the median woman.

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    Ed George says:

    SB

    Please explain how you drew that incredible conclusion. Show all your work from start to finish. I want to know every step in your reasoning process so that I can help you to understand your confusion.

    First, I think you have to explain how a man having feminine virtues makes him a moral failure, and how a woman having masculine virtues makes her a moral failure. If human morals are objective, as I have repeatedly been informed, shouldn’t they be the same for men and women?

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    ET says:

    Acartia Eddie and the big choke:

    First, I think you have to explain how a man having feminine virtues makes him a moral failure, and how a woman having masculine virtues makes her a moral failure.

    YOU have to explain how you reached that inference from what he has posted.

    You keep erecting strawmen, Acartia.

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    Marfin says:

    Ed George , I think we need to accept that men and women are equal but not the same and traits that both have that differ from each other can be used for good or evil .There is clear scientific studies that state that one of the reasons women get paid less is that they are too agreeable and not aggressive enough to demand what they deserve , not all women but women in general.Now is agreeableness a good or bad trait depends on the circumstances so its not good or bad in and of itself.
    Now the idea that men have this more feminine trait and not stood up for what they know to be wrong is a fair point as with the whole transgender thing if a biological man for 40 years claims to be a woman then what difference does it make to me, well the problem is if you acknowledge that this is real, a man can be a woman ,then when your 6 year old boy announces in school that he is a girl and the liberal teacher tells you this but you say thats just a phase he is going through , then you get reported to the authorities for denying your child the right to be the person they say they are, then not standing up to the lie that men can be women in the first place is a big problem.
    So standing for what right , for whats true needs to be done no matter what peer pressure is brought down upon us , black live do matter , looting, rioting, saying the police are racist and need to be de-funded is wrong, any reasonable person can see this, but man be afraid if you say it out loud or post it on social media.

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    JVL says:

    Marfin: There is clear scientific studies that state that one of the reasons women get paid less is that they are too agreeable and not aggressive enough to demand what they deserve , not all women but women in general.

    So, if they want to get paid like men they have to act more like men and become moral failures?

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    StephenB says:

    Polistra

    —“You sound just like Trump. A world-destroying psychopath is a Real Man. Anything less than a universe-consuming mass murderer is a Very Weak Loser With Small Hands.”

    You sound like someone who believes that men are “toxic.” I once asked a feminized man what he would do if someone was raping his wife. His answer: “I would try to talk him out of it.” Do you understand why that was the wrong answer?

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    StephenB says:

    SB: Please explain how you drew that incredible conclusion. Show all your work from start to finish. I want to know every step in your reasoning process so that I can help you to understand your confusion.

    Ed George

    —“First, I think you have to explain how a man having feminine virtues makes him a moral failure, and how a woman having masculine virtues makes her a moral failure.?

    I didn’t say that a man having feminine virtues is a moral failure. Indeed, a man who has no feminine virtues at all is not even a civilized human being. At the same time,, a woman who has no masculine virtues at all would be far too passive and dainty. The point is that a man should have more masculine virtues than feminine virtues and vice versa for the woman. The high or low level of the virtue is also a factor. Clearly, you do not understand what is being discussed.

    —“If human morals are objective, as I have repeatedly been informed, shouldn’t they be the same for men and women?”

    Of course.

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    EDTA says:

    Marfin,
    “.There is clear scientific studies that state that one of the reasons women get paid less is that they are too agreeable and not aggressive enough to demand what they deserve”

    That sounds like another innate asymmetry between men and women. Hmm…

    JVL,

    You too may be getting near to realizing what is going on here. I’m sure a woman who is being more assertive and then getting paid the same as a man would not look like a moral failure to anybody. However, she will have to expend energy continually in order to maintain parity in salary. Every year, the same extra assertivness to ensure she doesn’t fall behind. This is telling.

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    daveS says:

    StephenB,

    If this is too personal, please ignore it. But getting back to EG’s question, are you married?

    I ask because I think when we met, my (now) wife and I both had fairly strong opinions about the roles of women and men in society, and in both our cases, these opinions have been revised significantly over the years.

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    bornagain77 says:

    sarcasm on,

    Oh my gosh, Trump, (that “world-destroying psychopath” 🙂 ) is at it again, He is so misogynistic that he has banned biological boys, and is only letting biological girls compete against biological girls.

    Trump DOJ Backs Idaho Law Limiting Girls’ Sports to Biological Girls
    https://www.christianheadlines.com/contributors/michael-foust/trump-doj-backs-idaho-law-limiting-girls-sports-to-girls.html?

    I bet that Neanderthal Trump still opens the door for his wife for crying out loud!

    Oh the humanity of it! How long will we have to bear such antics by this president!

    sarcasm off,

    Trump 2020,,, Trump 2024,,, Trump 2028,,, 🙂

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    Ed George says:

    SB

    I didn’t say that a man having feminine virtues is a moral failure.

    It sure seems like you did.

    However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues. This makes him a moral failure.

    Maybe it was just a poor choice of words. We are all guilty of that at times.

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    Retired Physicist says:

    Kevin Drum:

    As we debate the defunding/reimagining/reforming of our police forces, it’s worth taking a look at what the world looks like today compared to the way it still seems to look to many police officers. Here are the trends in arrest rates among young offenders since the crime peak of 1992:

    (Chart)

    Among the highest crime age groups of 15-17 and 18-20, arrest rates are down by about two-thirds. Two-thirds! I wonder how many people have truly internalized this? Cops still seem to think of themselves as a thin blue line protecting a society under siege from threatening hordes of criminals. But this isn’t true. Young people today are simply not as dangerous as they used to be, thanks to a childhood mostly free of lead poisoning.

    This is a permanent change and it’s true of everybody: men and women; Black, white, and Latino; urban and rural. We just flatly don’t live in a society that’s anywhere near as dangerous as it used to be. When will policing change to recognize this?

    crime has been going down for 27 years. If you look at areas where leaded gasoline was banned, the crime rate starts falling 20 years later. Lead is extremely toxic to the growing brain. Embryos aren’t getting the brain damage they used to get. Things have gotten much better. The sky is not falling.

    https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/06/raw-data-arrest-rates-for-violent-crime/

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    StephenB says:

    SB: I didn’t say that a man having feminine virtues is a moral failure.

    EG: “It sure seems like you did.”

    It is important to pay attention to nuances.

    I said, “However, a man who cannot or will not fight for the truth has allowed the feminine virtues to override the masculine virtues.

    –EG: This makes him a moral failure.?”

    Yes. He is a moral failure if he allows his feminine desire for peace or approval to *override* his manly obligation to protect innocent people from barbarians.

    EG:

    —Maybe it was just a poor choice of words. We are all guilty of that at times.”

    No, it wasn’t a poor choice of words on my part. It was a poor exercise in reading comprehension on your part. Nuances matter.

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    ET says:

    Acartia Eddie:

    It sure seems like you did.

    Perhaps to you, a known insipid troll on an agenda of obfuscation.

    Maybe it was just a poor choice of words.

    On your part. But you cannot help yourself.

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    ET says:

    It can always get better, RP. People in handcuffs should not be getting killed by police. That just spurs ambushes and riots.

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    Marfin says:

    JVL Not sure when men being moral failure comes in , both men and women are moral failures and moral successes , they have differing traits which can lend themselves to good or bad depending on circumstances. Stubbornness make be good when refusing to budge when taking a moral stand but bad when refusing to budge just to get your own way.
    Retired physicist- Who ever did the study on violence and crime decreasing amongst the young obviously has not lived in Dublin, London, Glasgow. some of the reasons reported crime might be down is , hopelessness and apathy as getting convictions nowadays in nigh impossible , and even when convicted the sentences are so short its hardly worth considering.
    Its only when New York introduced its tough 3 strikes policy that its Crimea rate fell not through lack of lead posioning

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