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FBOver on Biologos, Francis Beckwith has posted a third and a fourth instalment of his “Intelligent Design and Me” series.  He has dedicated these instalments to some of his critics, naming some UD people specifically, and also discussing the views of Jay Richards of the Discovery Institute.

I’m grateful that Dr. Beckwith has seen fit to reply.  I must confess that I had almost written him off as a “drive-by shooter”, but now I must say “better late than never”, and thank him for his effort to get back to us.

First, as one of the UD people mentioned by Dr. Beckwith, I should apologize for misreporting, in my earlier column, some of the chronological details of Dr. Beckwith’s religious and intellectual life.  Dr. Beckwith has corrected me on these in his new article.  I can assure him that there was no conscious attempt to misrepresent anything, and I am glad he has reminded us that his adoption of Thomism preceded his return to Rome by many years.  This makes the important point that Thomism is a theological approach rather than a religious confession, and is open to Christians other than Roman Catholics.

I won’t comment on Dr. Beckwith’s new articles point by point, but will focus only on two main ideas which I think need discussion.

A.  Dr. Beckwith tells us that Thomas Aquinas did not have an argument from design in the style of William Paley, but an argument from the existence of final causes.  I grant that there is no Paley-like argument in the famous “Five Ways”.  But does it follow that arguments in the style of Paley are incompatible with the argument of Aquinas?  Is there anything in Aquinas’s writing which would lead us to believe that he would have rejected Paley-like arguments?

I will not pose as an expert on Aquinas.  We do know, however, that Aquinas was a very thorough student of Aristotle, and that his writings about nature are very heavily influenced by Aristotle’s conceptions.  We know also that Aristotle himself was a good observational biologist (as even Darwin confessed), which is quite understandable given that Aristotle’s father was a physician.  Aristotle was very much aware of the “adaptation of means to ends” in the bodies of plants and animals, and very much aware of what we now call “integrated complexity” in living systems.  He at least at one point appears (though the meaning of the passage is debatable) to heap scorn on a very Darwinian-sounding hypothesis of Empedocles.

More important, Aristotle constantly makes use, in his descriptions of nature, of the analogy of the artisan or craftsman.  True, he does not understand God to be literally an artisan.  Nonetheless, the fact that he so often recurs to the artisan analogy suggests that natural things, and especially living things, are very much like the products of craftsmanship in key respects.  One of the major similarities is of course that neither the products of craft nor those of nature occur by “chance”.  This is not Paley, but it is not incompatible with Paley, either.  If Aquinas absorbed Aristotle’s teaching about nature, which I believe he did, is it inconceivable that he took the artisan analogy with some seriousness?  Can we be certain that Aquinas would have rejected Paley-like arguments as bad philosophy and bad theology?  Need all modern Thomists reject Paley-like arguments?

B.  Dr. Beckwith complains that ID confuses categories by offering “intelligent design” as a scientific theory, and expecting it to defeat “naturalism”, which is a philosophical position.  If I understand Dr. Beckwith correctly, Thomism opposes naturalism, not on the level of natural science, but on the level of the philosophy of nature.  Thus, Thomism avoids category confusion, and leaves modern natural science free to its own methods and investigations, while steadfastly upholding a teleological view of nature on the metaphysical level.

In order to respond properly to this, I must make clear my own notion of intelligent design.  And let me say that I have no authority to speak for Uncommon Descent, or for The Discovery Institute, or for “ID” as a movement.  I am simply going to state what I take to be the essence of intelligent design, based on my intensive reading of the major theoretical works of its leading proponents and associates, and my intensive reading of its critics and its rejoinders to its critics, over the past several years.

First, I concede that my notion of the essence of ID is a filtered and idealized notion, stripped of its cultural associations and given a consistency that it does not always present.  It incorporates elements from Behe, Meyer, Dembski, Denton and others, and attempts to give these ideas a rough unity, but does not claim that it can reconcile itself with every individual statement these writers have ever made, let alone every statement about design or evolution that a fundamentalist pastor in Georgia or Oklahoma might have made.

I see ID as an attempt to construct an argument for the design of living nature, based on the empirical facts of living nature.  The most striking fact about living nature is its high degree of integrated complexity.  In a cell, physiological system, or organism, individual molecular, cellular or organic systems, each extraordinarily complex, interact harmoniously with other individual systems.  The levels of complexity, interaction, efficiency, etc. are far beyond what the best human engineers have been able to achieve in inorganic systems. 

We have no experience of such complex integrated systems being built up by chance, or by any process largely dominated by purely contingent events.  Yes, crystals and snowflakes can form naturally into elaborate geometrical patterns, but crystals and snowflakes do not eat, breathe, digest, walk, fly, mate, think, laugh, cry or sacrifice themselves for a political or religious idea.  Their mathematical structures are neither machinelike nor lifelike; they do not display the adaption of means to ends that both machines and organisms do. 

Insofar as we are able to calculate the odds against complex organic systems forming by chance, or by any evolutionary process largely driven by chance, we come up with numbers so large as to be beyond human imagination. 

When we take all of this into account, and when we ask the question:  “Could complex integrated organic systems have arisen without any input, direct or indirect, from intelligence or something in the universe that resembles intelligence?”, it would appear that the most rational answer, i.e., the one most in accord with evidence and logic, is:  “Based on our current understanding of nature, no.”  And with this negative answer, the positive suggestion of intelligent design is implied.

Now, note that I have spoken only of “design”, not of “miracle”, “intervention”, “supernatural causes”, filling in “gaps” in naturalistic explanation, etc.  In my view, ID, in its purest form, has nothing to do with these things.  In my view, ID is a theory of design detection, applied to nature, especially to biological nature.  It detects design, not how the design was implemented.  And it detects present patterns, not past events which might account for those patterns.  In other words, ID is (or at least in my view should be) an a-historical theory of design, not a historical theory of “origins”. 

Is this nonsense?  Am I ignoring the obvious fact that many ID proponents, major and minor, have insisted that ID is a theory of origins?  And one that involves divine activity?

Not at all.  It is inevitable that human beings will ask origins questions, i.e., “How did this design get into nature?”  And it is almost inevitable that some design theorists will conclude that certain designs could not have found their way into nature without the direct manipulation of nature by God.  But neither an affirmation of a particular historical narrative nor an insistence upon divine interventions is essential to ID theory as I understand it.

So if Nelson believes that direct creation was necessary and that macroevolution did not occur, and if Behe accepts macroevolution and is open-minded about whether or not it needed to be executed or supplemented by divine intervention, and if Denton accepts macroevolution and utterly rejects intervention, this is not an inconsistency in ID theory as such; it is a difference of opinion about second-tier questions among ID proponents.  All of them are agreed that neo-Darwinian processes, which lean heavily upon chance (the purportedly non-chance character of natural selection notwithstanding), are not a credible explanation of the empirically verifiable facts of nature.  Chance and selection may have played a role, but without the co-ordinating effects of design, they cannot give a rational accounting for the existence of life and life-forms as we know them.

Now, I come back to Dr. Beckwith’s objection.  I don’t think that ID proper uses science to defeat “naturalism”, even if ID proponents sometimes slip into that language.  I think that ID proper uses science to defeat “chance”.  The Paley-like arguments of ID do not refute naturalism as such; rather, they refute only that form of naturalism which is intensely dependent upon chance, upon blessed combinations of mutations which are (to use neo-Darwinian language) “random with respect to the outcome”.  ID is completely compatible with naturalism of other sorts.  For example, it is compatible with a naturalism in which the whole course of evolution is laid out by physical and biochemical necessities programmed into the universe from the moment of Creation. 

Thus, I think it is wrong to oppose ID to “naturalism”.  I think it is wrong not only when the foes of ID do this, but even when the friends of ID do it.  ID is, or should be, neutral on the question of “naturalism”, if by “naturalism” is meant only “the Designer implements his design through wholly natural means, without having to make special interventions”.  ID has no axe to grind against naturalism in that sense.  Of course, if by “naturalism” is meant, “there is nothing in the universe but nature, and nature does not include God”, then naturalism is just materialism and atheism, and automatically excludes a Designer.  Obviously ID is opposed to naturalism in that sense.  But in the former sense, there is nothing in ID that rules out wholly naturalistic macroevolution.  The design can be conceived of as built into the universe, to unfold or evolve over time. 

Note that a wholly naturalistic version of ID, just as much as any interventionist version, is compatible with Paleyan arguments.  However, it does not involve the notion that God assembled each species bone by bone and feather by feather, as the clockmaker image suggests.  Rather, what living things have in common with clocks is the adaptation of means to ends.  This does not require that they were actually, historically speaking, built as clocks are built.  I doubt that even Paley ever meant that, and certainly I don’t think that is what Behe, Denton and Sternberg envision when they talk about design within an evolutionary process.

So I throw the question back to Dr. Beckwith:  If ID can in principle accept macroevolution as a historical process;  if ID can go further than this, and even contemplate macroevolution as a wholly natural (though intelligently pre-planned) process; if ID does not require that each species or even each body plan be built up miraculously, via supernatural interventions, feather by feather or bone by bone; if ID can conceive of evolution as the unfolding of a latent design rather than the constant imposition of an extrinsic design —  is ID still necessarily incompatible with the view of final causation held by Thomas Aquinas or by modern Thomists?  Is it only the miracles, the interventionism and the literal understanding of the clockmaker metaphor that are unacceptable to Thomism?  Or is the idea of design detection itself, even in the context of a seamless naturalism, antithetical to Thomist thought?  Is it simply wrong, from a Thomist point of view, for a Christian to think that the details of God’s creation might point decisively against chance and decisively in favor of design?

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Mr Beckwith, You seem to be saying that your Gradmother should see design as an evident property of nature, but if an systematic observer looks closely, the design which was so evident from across the room suddenly goes away. It is this tortured logic, over and over again, that ID proponents are curious of.Upright BiPed
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It depends on how you interpret “readily perceived”. If you interpret it as being completely obvious to anyone even if they don’t spend much time thinking about God’s creation then yea I suppose you might be right. But I sincerely don’t believe it means that it is necessarily easy or simple. I believe that it is what it says it is, it’s readily perceived if one spends the time to try to understand. Of course, one has to apply that reason that God gave you in order to perceive some order, but one does not need to understand all of the mathematics in order to understand what the ID argument is. Furthermore, I don’t think Paul, or the other disciples, ever meant to say that things should be easy by any means.
So much for the perspicuity of Scripture. :-) Seriously, "readily perceived" is not inferential reasoning. Once you have to provide evidence for your belief, the belief is inferred. If it's readily perceived, evidence is not required. Setting this aside, it seems as anachronistic to find contemporary ID in Scripture as it is for a Texas Baptist to find "grape juice" at the wedding of Cana.fbeckwith
May 24, 2010
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Regardless, doesn't this quibbling over "readily perceived" just reduce to word games? I Timothy 6:3-5 " 3If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, 4he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 5and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain." I'm curious what is the Greek word used in that passage from Romans for "readily"?Phaedros
May 24, 2010
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fbeckwith- "But “readily perceived” is not the ID project, which relies on the result of a long protracted argument requiring a high-level mathematics that only five people can follow. Immediate, non-inferential, understanding of intrinsic order that can be understood by my Grandma is not inferential, probabilitistic, understanding of the arrangement of parts extrinsically imposed upon it. " It depends on how you interpret "readily perceived". If you interpret it as being completely obvious to anyone even if they don't spend much time thinking about God's creation then yea I suppose you might be right. But I sincerely don't believe it means that it is necessarily easy or simple. I believe that it is what it says it is, it's readily perceived if one spends the time to try to understand. Of course, one has to apply that reason that God gave you in order to perceive some order, but one does not need to understand all of the mathematics in order to understand what the ID argument is. Furthermore, I don't think Paul, or the other disciples, ever meant to say that things should be easy by any means.Phaedros
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StephenB: The problem is with your questions. To refer to something called "all physical entities" lacks clarity. Do you mean organisms, artifacts, kidney stones? That makes a huge difference. When Thomas writes of Adam and Eve, that tells us very little about the philosophy of nature and whether ID is consistent with it. Remember, when God animates the dirt that becomes Adam and Eve, from a Thomist perspective, a non-substantial heep is transformed into a substantial whole with its own intrinsic purposes and ordering. Ultimately, then, the creation of Adam and Eve, and what it means philosophically, is triggered by what we know by special revelation. But the philosophical part is a result of our reflections on the content of special revelation. The coherency of these accounts are the proper subjects of philosophy, and ultimately, that has a bearing on how we think about our philosophy of nature. There's nothing in Thomas' account of the creation of Adam and Eve that detracts from his philosophy of nature and would lead one to entertain the plausibility of the mechanistic account presupposed by the ID movement. You write: "According to Romans 1:20 and Psalm 10, God’s handiwork is evident in nature, which would indicate that the associated design patterns can be readily perceived." I agree. But "readily perceived" is not the ID project, which relies on the result of a long protracted argument requiring a high-level mathematics that only five people can follow. Immediate, non-inferential, understanding of intrinsic order that can be understood by my Grandma is not inferential, probabilitistic, understanding of the arrangement of parts extrinsically imposed upon it. You write: "Why does Beckwith discount these Biblical teachings?" It seems to me that one can turn the question back on you: Why does Stephen take passages that appeal to what is "readily perceived" and employ them to support a design inference that is by its nature inferential and not "readily perceived." You write: "If Aquinas’ teaching on Divine causality is incompatible with a design inference, why is it that Beckwith cannot find even one direct quote to support that view?" The same reason why I can't find a quote in Thomas arguing against Martin Luther. It's difficult to find critiques of Enlightenment mechanism before the Enlightenment. You write: "If Thomism rules out ID, why is it that so many other Thomists, such as Fr. Robert Spitzer, Fr. Thomas Dubay, Bishop Donald Weurl, Fr. John Corapi, Scott Hahn, Jay Richards, Benjamin Wiker, George Weigel and countless others also accept ID?" I don't know. You'll have to ask them. Not privy to the "countless" you don't mention, a quick review of those listed reveals no actual scholar of Thomas Aquinas. (And I am not sure it's fair to list people who have never actually addressed the Thomist-ID question in their works in any great detail. An argument from silence is still silence). (For the record, I don't consider myself a scholar of Aquinas). The names that really count would be Gilson, McInerny, Clarke, O'Callahan, and Hibbs. Nevertheless, if counting noses impresses you, you should abandon ID, since very few in the general academic world accept it. Hence, when it comes to counting noses, be careful which ones you pick. :-)fbeckwith
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Prof. Cudworth, Good characterization of ID. Anyway these Thomist claims smack of an in-house, theological argument with little pertinence beyond its particular confines. Nevertheless I am reminded of another field where Noam Chomsky became ever more esoteric, elusive and dense—was it worth the effort to try to keep up? Most of us moved on, though many outside the field felt that anything so opaque must be equally profound. If you’re tired of TE and craving clarity I think you will enjoy Johnson and Reynolds’ Against All Gods: What’s Right and Wrong About the New Atheism.Rude
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In the past, I have asked Francis Beckwith four very direct questions: [A] If Aquinas believed that God created all physical entities through secondary causes, how is it that he also believed that God created the bodies of Adam and Eve in finished form? No answer. [B] If Aquinas' teaching on Divine causality is incompatible with a design inference, why is it that Beckwith cannot find even one direct quote to support that view? No answer. If Thomism rules out ID, why is it that so many other Thomists, such as Fr. Robert Spitzer, Fr. Thomas Dubay, Bishop Donald Weurl, Fr. John Corapi, Scott Hahn, Jay Richards, Benjamin Wiker, George Weigel and countless others also accept ID? No answer. [D] According to Romans 1:20 and Psalm 10, God's handiwork is evident in nature, which would indicate that the associated design patterns can be readily perceived. Why does Beckwith discount these Biblical teachings? No answer.StephenB
May 24, 2010
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Mr Cudworth, Thank you, I was unaware if there was an ID advocate who actually held all those positions simultaneously, and how they thought the ID research program of design detection should therefore be structured. Obviously, a cosmic fine tuning advocate would espouse a different program than an interventionist advocate.Nakashima
May 24, 2010
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Nakashima-San: RE: I think there are several regular posters here in the Big Tent who would be quite surprised to hear that ID is cool with naturally occurring macro-evolution, change in body plans, etc. I think you may need to refocus on the cited remark, where you may have overlooked the emphasised:
If ID can in principle accept macroevolution as a historical process [i.e. as natural history of significant and perhaps universal common descent . . . even YEC's hold to significant variation and specialisation for niches within kinds that are often roughly at the taxonomic level of families]; if ID can go further than this, and even contemplate macroevolution as a wholly natural (though intelligently pre-planned) process [that is, front-loaded, unfolding on an inbuilt original design, using mechanical necessity and/or controlled stochastic processes as components of a plan]; if ID does not require that each species or even each body plan be built up miraculously, via supernatural interventions, feather by feather or bone by bone; if ID can conceive of evolution as the unfolding of a latent design [ditto] rather than the constant imposition of an extrinsic design — is ID still necessarily incompatible with the view of final causation [= "A thing's final cause is its aim or purpose"] held by Thomas Aquinas or by modern Thomists?
In short, the focal objection of design thought is to the claim that UNDIRECTED chance and necessity in action across time acting on matter and energy in happenstsance initial configurations, can credibly account for origins from hydrogen to humans. In that context, it contends that on empirical investigation, we find abundant reason to hold the highly confident, reliable induction that certain observable -- and often, measurable -- features of objects, processes, and phenomena are characteristic, distinct signs of intelligent design. So, we have every reason to assert that the presence of such signs points to the reality of design, even when we have not observed the causal process directly. (Notice teh atemporality of the inference to design: detecting the fact as opposed to the method, timing and agent involved; which are interesting but onward questions.] And, once we see such signs, we can recognise them in certain key features of life and in the fine tuning of the cosmos. As to how the markers in question were put down, Design Theory and wider design thought, are far more flexible. For, proverbially, "there's more than one way to skin a cat[-fish]." Such points then gain additional force once we see that a good part of the basis for the commonly promoted view that "evolution" was materialistic, is actually Lewontinian subtle imposition of a priori materialism by the methodological back door. So, as the raging debate on the credibility of signs of intelligence palpably begins to wane [never mind the bitter-enders], let us begin to reflect on what we can do to reconstruct the natural history and methods of design from further signs on earth and in the cosmos at large. GEM of TKIkairosfocus
May 24, 2010
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Nakashima: It is no surprise to the veteran posters here, who have been studying ID in depth for several years, in some cases long before this site existed, that there are forms of ID which accept macroevolution (Behe's) and forms which accept naturalistic macroevolution (Denton's, and possibly Sternberg's, though I won't swear to the latter). This does not mean, of course, that all the posters here would *agree with* such forms of ID. But that is neither here nor there, concerning the theoretical point that I am making. The crucial thing in this column is to find out if *any* form of ID could meet the standards of the philosophy of nature of Thomism, as those standards are defined by Francis Beckwith. I await his answer with bated breath.Thomas Cudworth
May 23, 2010
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Thomas Good exploration of the issues. Recommend distinguishing between an "Open universe" or "Open naturalism" that allows for input by an intelligent designer and a "Closed universe or "Closed naturalism" which absolutely excludes any input by an intelligent designer.DLH
May 23, 2010
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Mr Cudworth, If ID can in principle accept macroevolution as a historical process; if ID can go further than this, and even contemplate macroevolution as a wholly natural (though intelligently pre-planned) process; if ID does not require that each species or even each body plan be built up miraculously, via supernatural interventions, feather by feather or bone by bone; if ID can conceive of evolution as the unfolding of a latent design rather than the constant imposition of an extrinsic design — if ID can be and do all that please tell us here at UD about it! I think there are several regular posters here in the Big Tent who would be quite surprised to hear that ID is cool with naturally occuring macro-evolution, change in body plans, etc.Nakashima
May 23, 2010
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Mr Cudworth Well argued. Thought-provoking, and also it underscores why it may be wise to speak descriptively of evolutionary materialism rather than naturalism. GEM of TKIkairosfocus
May 23, 2010
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I think some of the comments made in Aquinas name about ID are baseless. If Aquinas was anything it was a deeply honest intellect and an incredible investigator. To think Thomas Aquinas would have left the modern evidence of design rattling around in DNA without seizing upon its significance is just...it sells him short of the legitamacy he earned in history.Upright BiPed
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Dr. Cudworth- From what I've seen of the Thomists' arguments on this blog it does not seem to me that they are really all that interested in what Aquinas may or may not have thought of Intelligent Design and are more interested in preserving the status quo. They may feel they have a good niche in the status quo and thus don't want it to be shaken up too much. As for me, there is absolutely no reason to believe that Aquinas would have been opposed to finding empirical evidence of design, and thus of teleology and something indicative of a final cause, in nature. I would have thought a Thomist would have been more open to the general revelation found in nature. You know...that idea Aquinas had of two types of revelation.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation#Systematic_theology "Thomas Aquinas believed in two types of revelation from God, general revelation and special revelation. General revelation occurs through observation of the created order. Such observations can logically lead to important conclusions, such as the existence of God."Phaedros
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