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genetic-id, an instance of design detection? (topic revisited)

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(In an effort to help my IDEA comrades at Cornell I revisit the issue of Genetic-ID. My previous post on the issue caused some confusion so I’m reposting it with some clarifications. I post the topic as something I recommend their group discuss and explore.)

The corporation known as Genetic-ID (ID as in IDentification, not ID as in Intelligent Design) is able to distinguish a Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) from a “naturally occurring” organism. At www.genetic-id.com they claim:

Genetic ID can reliably detect ALL commercialized genetically modified organisms.

I claim that detecting man-made artifacts (like a GMO) is a valid instance of applying the Explanatory Filter.

The Explanatory Filter is used all the time (implicitly):

The key step in formulating Intelligent Design as a scientific theory is to delineate a method for detecting design. Such a method exists, and in fact, we use it implicitly all the time. The method takes the form of a three-stage Explanatory Filter.

I want to emphasize, the Explanatory Filter (EF) is used ALL the time. When ID critics say the EF has never been used to detect anything, they misrepresent what the EF is, because the EF is used ALL the time.

The Explanatory Filter faithfully represents our ordinary practice of sorting through things we alternately attribute to law, chance, or design. In particular, the filter describes

how copyright and patent offices identify theft of intellectual property
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Entire industries would be dead in the water without the Explanatory Filter. Much is riding on it. Using the filter, our courts have sent people to the electric chair.

(bolding mine)

When we detect design in a physical artifact, we detect the Complex Specified Information (CSI) the artifact evidences. That means we see that a physical artifact conforms to an independent blueprint.

In the Bill’s book, No Free Lunch (NFL), the concept of CSI if formalized. CSI is detected when the information from a physical artifact (physical information) conforms to an independent blueprint or conception (conceptual information). CSI is defined as:

The coincidence of conceptual and physical information where the conceptual information is both identifiable independently of the physical information and also complex.

It is important to note CSI is defined by two pieces of information not just one

CSI is consistent with the basic idea behind information, which is the reduction of possibilities from a reference class of possibilities. But whereas the traditional understanding of information is unary, conceiving of information as a single reduction of possibilities, complex specified information is a binary form of information. Complex specified information , and specified information more generally, depends on a dual reduction of possibilities, namely a conceptual reduction (i.e., conceptual information) combined with a physical reduction (i.e., physical information ).

Genetic-ID uses PCR (polymerase chain reaction) to detect whether an organism has physical characteristics (physical information) which match a known blueprint (conceptual information) for a GMO. This is a relatively simple case of design detection since the pattern matching method is exact and highly specific. Genetic-ID’s technique is a somewhat trivial example of design detection, but I put it on the table to help introduce the concept of the Explanatory Filter in detecting designs at the molecular level.

But how about less specific pattern matches to detect GMO’s? Do you think we could detect a GMO such as this:

Data stored in multiplying bacteria

The scientists took the words of the song It’s a Small World and translated it into a code based on the four “letters” of DNA. They then created artificial DNA strands recording different parts of the song. These DNA messages, each about 150 bases long, were inserted into bacteria such as E. coli and Deinococcus radiodurans.

Or how about this kind of GMO, a terminator/traitor which does not have a published specific architecture : Terminate the Terminator.

Terminator technology (sometimes called TPS-Technology Protection System or GURTs-Genetic Use Restriction Technologies) refers to plants that are genetically engineered to produce sterile seeds. If commercialized, the technology will prevent farmers from saving seed from their harvest for planting the following season. These “suicide seeds” will force farmers to return to the seed corporations every year and will make extinct the 12,000-year tradition of farmers saving, adapting and exchanging seed in order to advance biodiversity and increase food security.

Extending these ideas, can we in principle detect nano-molecular designs such as a nano-molecular computer? If we find a physical molecular artifact conforming to the blueprints of a computer, should we infer design?

With that question in mind, I point to the fact that biological systems are computers, and self-replicating computers on top of that! This fact was not lost upon Albert Voie who tied the problem of the origin-of-life to the fact that the physical artifacts of biology conform to a known blueprint, namely, a self-replicating computer. I commented on Voie’s landmark outline of the origin-of-life problem here.

In as much as biology conforms to the blueprints of a computer, are we justified in inferring design? And finally, are not the claims of Darwinian evolution ultimately claims that blindwatchmakers can create “Gentically Modified Organisms” (so to speak) from pre-existing organisms? What then do we make of Darwinian evolution’s claims?

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If I understand ID, correctly, then a signature would be an example of an extremely low probability sequence. Although I don't know how one would calculate it, the low probability would be determined by the likelyhood that there would be naturally selective processes present which would select that specific sequence. If, for example, you could show that certain proteins are created from DNA sequences which correspond to, as in one example above, a musical code. Then, perhaps there would be reason to suspect evolution of "accidentally" creating something which we might only have expected from a modern designer. Since evolution would act on the protein fitness, only. It wouldn't be hard to demonstrate the existence of some such code, if it were true. However, we're only just now scratching the surface in being able to understand how natural selection can act on genes. Without positive evidence of another ancient actor, besides evolution, the only answer to scordova's last question remains that ID might simply be detecting evolution. It's not a conclusion that is immutable, but changing it requires more than simply demonstrating that some things are complex and that we can *only now* make these structures directly, ourselves. Of course the explanatory filter works in a situation where we already know of the existance of a designer. That's too easy.curtrozeboom
May 11, 2006
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Chris -- It seems to me that comparing effects against one another is a form of design detection; comparative detection. Finding previously known artificial patterns amid natural patterns is indeed design detection. The method employed may not be what we typically think of, but it is pattern-finding, which is a basic premise of ID. Our ability to do this is an axiomatic postulate of ID research in general (e.g. comparing the effects of human intelligence to the effects of any possible intelligence). Once ID has a better grasp on recognizing which parts of the universe can be reliably detected or fruitfully researched as designed, (possibly through design constraints, retrodictive ceilings, or something of the like) I see this comparative approach being used as a "hypothetical imperative" more frequently since it doesn't require a protracted probabilistic calculation.JosephCCampana
May 11, 2006
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Doesn't the Explanatory Filter work by calculating the odds of natural causation, and then concluding design if the odds are too small? It seems that this company works the other way round by seeing if they can detect a signature that they know is a product of a genetic engineering process. Presumably they have a databse of PCR primers that correspond to known genetically modified organisms.Chris Hyland
May 11, 2006
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Well, Salvador, I can hear the objections already. They go something like this: Genetic-ID is not ID detection nor is it a use of the EF because all Genetic-ID does is match a known pattern to a pattern in DNA, that's all. Some might even claim that the patterns are not even independent, therefore it's not ID. Or that the Genetic-ID was known in advance, therefore it's not ID. In any event, the objections will no doubt incorporate the claim that Genetic-ID does not rule out either chance or necessity, nor the interworking of chance and necessity, all Genetic_ID does is look for a pattern match, therefore this is not the EF nor is it ID. Of course, the critics will do everything they can ignore why the pattern-matching is taking place, or what can be inferred from a match. Some will even go so far to claim that the only thing that can be inferred from a match is that a match was found. Others, or maybe even the same people, will claim that the only why of the pattern-matching is the fact of the pattern-matching, or that the why is because that's what Genetic-ID does. Some will try to divert the argument using the red-herring that Genetic-ID also matches natural patterns, and not just engineered patterns. Of course, what they will avoid is what you point out through the Dembski quote, and that is what is actually going on intuitively. Why match patterns at all? What would the purpose be of trying to find a match for a specific pattern if organisms regularly produce that pattern as a matter of course? What would the significance be of locating a pattern in the DNA if that pattern can easily get there "by chance?" How long are these GMO sequences? How long do they need to be in order for us to rule out chance and necessity as possible explanations for their appearance in a DNA sample? All good questions. Let's see if we get any answers.Mung
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