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Yes, it was always there but recently, as the editors become ever more self-righteous (= Us vs. the Unwashed), it has become more open and that sure isn’t an improvement. Two items noted in passing:

Big Climate:

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is an important organization with a primary purpose to assess the scientific literature on climate in order to inform policy…

Regrettably, the IPCC WG2 has strayed far from its purpose to assess and evaluate the scientific literature, and has positioned itself much more as a cheerleader for emissions reductions and produced a report that supports such advocacy. The IPCC exhorts: “impacts will continue to increase if drastic cuts in greenhouse gas emissions are further delayed – affecting the lives of today’s children tomorrow and those of their children much more than ours … Any further delay in concerted global action will miss a brief and rapidly closing window to secure a liveable future.”

The focus on emissions reductions is a major new orientation for WG2, which previously was focused exclusively on impacts, adaptation and vulnerability. The new focus on mitigation is explicit, with the IPCC WG2 noting (1-31) that its focus “expands significantly from previous reports” and now includes “the benefits of climate change mitigation and emissions reductions.” This new emphasis on mitigation colors the entire report, which in places reads as if adaptation is secondary to mitigation or even impossible. The IPCC oddly presents non-sequiturs tethering adaptation to mitigation, “Successful adaptation requires urgent, more ambitious and accelerated action and, at the same time, rapid and deep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions.”

Roger Pielke, Jr., “A Rapidly Closing Window to Secure a Liveable Future” at The Honest Broker Newsletter/Substack (March 2, 2022)

The relentless drum-banging will probably have the opposite effect of the one desired, especially when (as is sure to happen) some emission reduction strategies do much more harm than good and the boosters are running for cover, misrepresenting those outcomes in the name of “Trust the Science.”

And then there are the ridiculous efforts in popular science media to snuff out any awareness of the possibility that the virus that causes COVID-19 escaped from the Wuhan lab doing research on making viruses more powerful. How awful of any of us to suggest such a thing! Here’s an intro to a podcast on the topic:

We have featured the work of science writer Matt Ridley on several occasions over the years. Now he is the author (with Alina Chan) of the new book Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19. Brendan O’Neill has recorded a podcast with Ridley to discuss how the Covid-19 virus might have leaked from a lab in Wuhan and how scientists tried to suppress the lab-leak origin theory. Spiked has posted the podcast here. I have embedded it below.

The New York Times continues to flog the alleged natural origin of the plague. Most recently, the Times has promoted “new research” pointing to the live animal market in Wuhan as the origin: “Analyzing a wide range of data, including virus genes, maps of market stalls and the social media activity of early Covid-19 patients across Wuhan, the scientists concluded that the coronavirus was very likely present in live mammals sold at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in late 2019 and suggested that the virus spilled over into people working or shopping there on two separate occasions.” However, “some gaps” in the evidence still remain. “The new [unpublished] papers did not, for example, identify an animal at the market that spread the virus to humans.”

Scott Johnson, “The case for the lab-leak theory” at Powerline Blog (March 4, 2022)

More re Viral

Science writer Matt Ridley thinks science is reverting to a cult. Maybe his next book should be about that.

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Silver Asiatic, Nicely stated. With regards to the singularity, one can ask with more insight the brilliant polymath Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz's famous question, "Why is there something rather than nothing?" -QQuerius
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JVL Excellent questions.
What’s to stop you from going back on and on, one step after another, will that being already be there?
What we would have is the impossibility of traversing an infinite regress. If the physical universe went on and on forever, never reaching an initial cause or first origin - then everything that came along "after" would have taken an infinite amount of time to appear. So there would have to be an infinite number of days before today arrived. But time going across an infinite span like that would never reach today. If there was never a beginning, there could be no starting point. So, not only would we have no cause for the whole infinite string of physical events (we'd see box-cars on a train track moving forward with no engine to pull them), but we couldn't add new days to that infinite string (like tomorrow) since it would take an infinity (which never is completed) to get here.
How do you know that? Is that not just an assumption on your part? What physics do they have to follow?
We know this because the singularity created the physical universe. Physics is a measure of the physical world. Prior to the singularity, there could be no physical world since the physical universe came into existence at that time. So, what preceded the singularity could not be physical. The cause of the material world has to be immaterial (because matter could not be the creator of matter).
But what about your necessary being? Is their past finite? If yes then what created them? If not then is the past really finite?
The necessary being cannot be dependent on anything else for its existence. If it did, then it would be possible to not exist (since what it depends on might not exist). The necessary being has to contain within itself everything required for existence - so, it is the fullness of being. It is not changed by anything external and so not living within time.Silver Asiatic
March 20, 2022
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Q “There was no “before” the Big Bang!” Correct and I use that term , gotta think of a better way. Perhaps “the universe exists therefore something has always existed “ one candidate ( a flawed one IMO )is the universe itself has always existed. Vividvividbleau
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Scamp “SC “that is based on an extrapolation from our knowledge of the physical universe.” You have it assed backwards. Our knowledge of the physical universe depend on the application of reason, logic etc. Hey we can clear this up very easily please give me the physical dimensions of let’s say the law of non contradiction. What does it weigh , what is its mass, etc ? Vividvividbleau
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JVL @528,
Okay, but if you went back 15 billion years (before our universe was created based on current estimates) would that necessary being already exist? What if you went back 20 billion years? Or 200 billion years?
There was no "before" the Big Bang! There was no space, no time, no atoms, no electrons, no protons, no neutrons, no quarks, no leptons, no bosons, no gluons, no photons, no energy, no forces, no probabilities, no stars, no black holes, no gravity, no laws of physics . . . Assuming a transcendent being of some kind exists, that being must necessarily exist outside of space and time. For such a being, existence is not divided into past, present, and future, but rather a timeless existence. That being might choose to be called "I AM." -QQuerius
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Scamp VB: There are lots of unsupported speculations that are not illogical. “And they all have the same thing In common They are based on assumptions and extrapolations from things we have knowledge about. For example, without modern knowledge of the cosmos and Newtonian physics it would be logical to conclude that the earth was the centre of the universe.” Why you bring up something that that I certainly agree with as on objection to my disagreement with your claim that all unsupported speculations are illogical has me mystified. Try again and please stay on topic. “We don’t know that it “began”. Well you brought it up not me Scamp “But we don’t known what the Big Bang was, how it was caused, if anything existed before that,” Actually I do know that if the Big Bang occurred that something existed before that. VB. “Nothing can cause nothing , nothing has no ontological existence, no casual power whatsoever.” SC “that is based on an extrapolation from our knowledge of the physical universe. But we have no knowledge of “nothing”. We can’t even envision what it would be or what it could entail” I know what it could entail it would entail “nothing” Furthermore the LNC is not a physical thing or perhaps you can tell me it’s physical dimensions. If something exists something must have always existed, you seem to hold to the absurd claim that something can exist before it exists which is crazy talk and a Charlie horse to the ears. Vividvividbleau
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Kairosfocus: We therefore need a world/reality root that is finitely remote and of non contingent possible character, i.e. a necessary being, capable of causing worlds. Okay, but if you went back 15 billion years (before our universe was created based on current estimates) would that necessary being already exist? What if you went back 20 billion years? Or 200 billion years? What's to stop you from going back on and on, one step after another, will that being already be there? whatever comes before the singularity needs not follow the same physics How do you know that? Is that not just an assumption on your part? What physics do they have to follow? We know the past to be finite and that the physical cosmos had a beginning. But what about your necessary being? Is their past finite? If yes then what created them? If not then is the past really finite?JVL
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Sc, you have been adequately answered. KF PPS, for example we do know there was a beginning to the causal-thermodynamic temporal order, for many reasons. Our cosmos credibly traces to a singularity. It has not run down into heat death and the numbers of white dwarfs as cooling down stellar remnants that will take a very long time to cool tell a story. Likewise, even on a beyond the singularity, the heat death issue is very present, and there is a logic of being constraint. For, a past without beginning implies that for every - k beyond the singularity there are onward, -(k+1), -(k+2) . . . in effect going on yet again without limit. The descent through - k to 0 and then up to now requires actual succession, not a mathematical model, and the succession would be transfinite to now. But a transfinite succession of finite stages -- years for convenience, cannot be completed. We know the past to be finite and that the physical cosmos had a beginning.kairosfocus
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Scamp,
I probably should have said that it would be logical to conclude that the sun, moon and stars orbited around earth.
No, because there's no preferred frame of reference. Sure, one can use a frame of reference with the earth as the center of the solar system, and we do when we talk about "sunrise" and "sunset." There is no "before" T=0. T=0 is when space-time began. We can't observe historical events or do experiments on them beyond measuring the Cosmic Background Radiation, stellar spectra and red shift, periodic fluctuations such as in binary stars and pulsars, gravitational lensing, etc. From this data, theories are developed. New data modifies, strengthens or weakens theories, or even supplants them. -QQuerius
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Querius: LOL. The earth IS the center of the universe. And so is every other location in the universe.
I will take your word for it. I probably should have said that it would be logical to conclude that the sun, moon and stars orbited around earth.
No, they came later. It’s believed that the space-time began at a single point (T=0) that inflated rapidly at first and was initially filled with a quark-gluon plasma (T=10^-10 to 10^-6 seconds).
Is this supported by experimentation or just speculation? Regardless, we don’t know what happened at or before T=0. And we don’t know what happened for the first tiny fraction of time after T=0.Scamp
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Scamp,
For example, without modern knowledge of the cosmos and Newtonian physics it would be logical to conclude that the earth was the centre of the universe.
LOL. The earth IS the center of the universe. And so is every other location in the universe.
We don’t know that it “began”. We just know that approximately 14 billion years ago the universe consisted of protons and neutrons in a very small volume.
No, they came later. It's believed that the space-time began at a single point (T=0) that inflated rapidly at first and was initially filled with a quark-gluon plasma (T=10^-10 to 10^-6 seconds). -QQuerius
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William J Murray @515,
And since information is conserved, we need an external source of that information.
I’d like to see you or anyone explain the logic of this claim.
1. Look up the Law of Conservation of Information. 2. Explain where information came from in the first place. -QQuerius
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KF: Sc, you are simply doubling down at this point. The record is above. KF
No, I am simply repeating a warranted conclusion based on thousands of observations.Scamp
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VB: There are lots of unsupported speculations that are not illogical.
And they all have the same thing In common They are based on assumptions and extrapolations from things we have knowledge about. For example, without modern knowledge of the cosmos and Newtonian physics it would be logical to conclude that the earth was the centre of the universe.
What is illogical is that which began to exist came from nothing.
We don’t know that it “began”. We just know that approximately 14 billion years ago the universe consisted of protons and neutrons in a very small volume. Anything before that is pure speculation.
Nothing can cause nothing , nothing has no ontological existence, no casual power whatsoever.
that is based on an extrapolation from our knowledge of the physical universe. But we have no knowledge of “nothing”. We can’t even envision what it would be or what it could entail.Scamp
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Sev, that sort of regress is tantamount to reductio ad absurdum. KFkairosfocus
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Sc, you are simply doubling down at this point. The record is above. KFkairosfocus
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:KF That is a classic case of setting up and knocking over a strawman given what I have been at pains to do, and in context it is laced with ad hom too.
No, it is nothing more than a warranted conclusion based on the observation of the hundreds of thousands of words you have posted here. Far more warranted, I might add, than the conclusions you draw about the motivations of everyone who has the audacity to disagree with you.Scamp
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Kairosfocus/511
Sev, that is a recipe for infinite regress of doubts and disputes, and thus for selective hyperskepticism.
Yes, it is. No one said it was going to be easy but that doesn't mean we should grasp the first straw that comes along promising a spurious certainty.
Instead, as we are finite, fallible, struggling and too often ill willed, we need to recognise that we all have faith points at core of our world views which are subject to comparative difficulties on factual adequacy, coherence and explanatory power.
We all choose anchor points for our beliefs although just how firm they are is open to question.
Where, a relatively few self evident first facts and principles help us test the quality of our thought, but we can never compose a full worldview just from those.
I start from a small set of premises: 1) I exist. 2) I would like to continue my existence for as long as it is both possible and tolerable. 3) I presume other people and other animals exist. 4) I presume those other people and animals would also like to continue their existences for as long as they are both possible and tolerable. Everything else follows from them.
And right now it is unwarranted confidence in radically secular ideas dressed up in lab coats that are leading to deep, deep trouble. KF
An exaggerated confidence in science is as unwarranted as the same in religions or political ideologies. What we are well-advised to be wary of, however, is where these theologies and ideologies try to undermine science in order to advance the causes of their own unwarranted certainties.Seversky
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Es58/
How many 1000’s of iou 1 complex explanation, which increase by bounds with each new discovery, and multiplies the complexity of The very explanation they were trying to provide, by in from the “scientific community”, payable sometime between here and eternity, usually much closer to The latter, does one accept and still call oneself a “skeptic” (as opposed to one operating on blind faith)?
Why would you expect that science should know everything now? This Universe in which we find ourselves is unimaginably vast and has been around for around 13.8 bn years. It doesn't come with a handy user's guide so science is having to work it out on the fly. Modern science has only been on the job for a few hundred years at best. I think we can afford to be patient.Seversky
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And since information is conserved, we need an external source of that information.
I'd like to see you or anyone explain the logic of this claim.William J Murray
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Seversky,
Consciousness would seem to be a property of certain arrangements of matter and energy. . . . We are also struggling to say what consciousness is.
Then, we should be able to detect consciousness in billions and billions of random combinations of particles and energy. But particles and energy don’t observe/measure themselves, otherwise we would observe random wavefunction collapses. For example, the double-slit experiment would sometimes go from a diffraction pattern to double bars by itself. Only conscious observation has been demonstrated to collapse the wavefunction (and in the quantum Zeno effect). These affect the information of what’s being observed.
If it’s a property of matter then presumably quarks come into it somewhere but exactly how is still beyond us.
Notice that the assertion above is entirely a statement of faith.
We don’t know that space-time originated in the Big Bang. All we can really say is that observational data points back to a time some 13.8 bn years ago or thereabouts when the Universe was much smaller and denser.
Yes, we do. Matter didn’t "explode" from a compressed state into existing space-time. Space-time has been observed to be expanding, and that at an accelerating rate. By calculating the rate in reverse, we come a 13.8 billion year approximation for the age of the universe.
The argument that kf and I have put forward is that, since there is something there must always have been something, the reason being that, if there had ever been truly nothing, there would still be nothing because you can’t get something out of nothing.
Yes, I agree. And that something, called “reality,” is fundamentally not particles or waves, but information. And since information is conserved, we need an external source of that information.
In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God and the Logos was God . . .
-QQuerius
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Hi510 SeverskyMarch 19, 2022 at 8:20 pm Skepticism, it seems to me, is very little different from Hume’s dictum that a wise person proportions their belief to the evidence How many 1000's of iou 1 complex explanation, which increase by bounds with each new discovery, and multiplies the complexity of The very explanation they were trying to provide, by in from the "scientific community", payable sometime between here and eternity, usually much closer to The latter, does one accept and still call oneself a "skeptic" (as opposed to one operating on blind faith)?es58
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Querius/505
1. A being. Presumably you mean a conscious, sentient being outside of space-time. If consciousness is instead a property of matter and its arrangement, you have the problem of identifying a new property in quarks that imbue consciousness and sentience that’s detectable when in sufficient quantity and arrangement.
Consciousness would seem to be a property of certain arrangements of matter and energy. We see it associated with physic animal brains but not with rocks or trees, for example. We are also struggling to say what consciousness is. If it's a property of matter then presumably quarks come into it somewhere but exactly how is still beyond us.
2. A being existing infinitely in the past. The problem is that space-time originated with the big bang: there was no space or time before the big bang, so there’s no “before.” Speculating that some being exists in a different space-time merely kicks the can down the road.
We don't know that space-time originated in the Big Bang. All we can really say is that observational data points back to a time some 13.8 bn years ago or thereabouts when the Universe was much smaller and denser. Originally, it was thought that this pointed towards everything being compressed into a primordial singularity of infinite density and mass but it now appears that this assumption is being questioned. The argument that kf and I have put forward is that, since there is something there must always have been something, the reason being that, if there had ever been truly nothing, there would still be nothing because you can't get something out of nothing. I think that what we can say with a high degree of confidence is that, while we know a lot more than we used to, there is still an awful lot that we are missing.Seversky
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Sev, that is a recipe for infinite regress of doubts and disputes, and thus for selective hyperskepticism. Instead, as we are finite, fallible, struggling and too often ill willed, we need to recognise that we all have faith points at core of our world views which are subject to comparative difficulties on factual adequacy, coherence and explanatory power. Where, a relatively few self evident first facts and principles help us test the quality of our thought, but we can never compose a full worldview just from those. And right now it is unwarranted confidence in radically secular ideas dressed up in lab coats that are leading to deep, deep trouble. KFkairosfocus
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Skepticism, it seems to me, is very little different from Hume's dictum that a wise person proportions their belief to the evidence. If someone tells me the have fairies at the bottom of their garden but all they can offer as proof is a grainy photograph that could very easily have been faked then I am under no obligation to believe that claim. It may still be true but unless and until better evidence comes along it is more likely to be false. The reality is that there are very few things of which we can be certain. In the majority of cases, in my view, it's more accurate to say that we have varying degrees of confidence in things. It is unwarranted certainty in religious beliefs or political ideologies that causes so much mischief.Seversky
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Sc, BTW, look at what you wrote above, in 475:
KF has made no secret that he believes that the Christian God is the origin of everything. And there is nothing wrong with that. Because of his beliefs, he jumps on the idea of a necessary being, as it is consistent with the beliefs he already has.
That is a classic case of setting up and knocking over a strawman given what I have been at pains to do, and in context it is laced with ad hom too. So, we know that not only will you do something like that but in short order +24 comments is it, you will rhetorically suggest you have not. Sad, but to be taken into the reckoning. KFkairosfocus
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Kairosfocus @506, Yes. And this is where quantum mechanics kicks in. It's currently believed that the fundamental reality we experience is not particles and energy, but information. The conscious observation of information in the form of mathematical probability waves results in their collapse into particles and energy. Where does this information originate? -QQuerius
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JVL, being does not imply person though it can include such, in the relevant sense, 0, 1, 2, . . . are beings. Be-ing is about existence. Some are personal, others are not, e.g. a rock or the number 2. But as I noted, there is no distinct possible world where 2 is not framework, just distinction to have a particular possible world is enough to show that. KFkairosfocus
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Sc [& attn JVL], whatever comes before the singularity needs not follow the same physics -- hence the fine tuning discussion and the concept of possible other physical domains -- but core logic of being including key matters of structure and quantity truly are framework to any possible world. Where, a PW is a sufficiently complete description of how this or another world is, was or could be. One of the points of that logic is, that utter non being -- the true nothing -- can have no causal powers so were such the case it would forever obtain, i.e. there would never be a world. That a world is, implies something else, the reality/world root always was, a necessary being. That it is credible our cosmos began to exist, perhaps 13.75 BYA, implies a causal antecedent. Where, the issue then is to characterise that root and something like our being morally governed is relevant. And being is used very broadly here, it is not synonymous with physicality. KFkairosfocus
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JVL @496,
Why does it have to be a ‘being’? And, if that being did not have a ’cause’ or origin then it must have always been around, i.e. infinitely far in the past, yes? Because there was never a ‘time’ it was not around.
There are several problems with your statements: 1. A being. Presumably you mean a conscious, sentient being outside of space-time. If consciousness is instead a property of matter and its arrangement, you have the problem of identifying a new property in quarks that imbue consciousness and sentience that’s detectable when in sufficient quantity and arrangement. 2. A being existing infinitely in the past. The problem is that space-time originated with the big bang: there was no space or time before the big bang, so there’s no “before.” Speculating that some being exists in a different space-time merely kicks the can down the road. -QQuerius
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