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Human evolution: Oldest hand-crafted flute so far is 35,000 years old

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The pieces of the ancient flute

comprise a 22-centimetre instrument with five holes and a notched end. Conard said the flute is 35,000 years old.

“It’s unambiguously the oldest instrument in the world,” said Conard. His findings were published online Wednesday by the journal Nature.

Other archeologists agreed with Conard’s assessment.

Well, that’s reassuring.

The Hohle Fels flute is more complete and appears slightly older than bone and ivory fragments from seven other flutes recovered in southern German caves and documented by Conard and his colleagues in recent years.

Now, here’s the interesting part:

Roebroeks said it’s difficult to say how cognitively and socially advanced these people were. But the physical trappings of their lives — including musical instruments, personal decorations and figurative art — match the objects we associate with modern human behaviour, he said.

“It shows that from the moment that modern humans enter Europe … it is as modern in terms of material culture as it can get,” Roebroeks said.

That’s the thing about the evolution of human culture. It never actually seems to happen. Someone just makes a flute and starts playing it, and soon every tribe has a flute.

A bit like the history of mathematics, I suppose. Someone just invents an idea like the Pythagorean theorem or zero, and everyone just picks up from there.

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nullasalus @ 10
Did she deny cultural evolution takes place?
You got me. Why do you think I asked all those questions?
Hell, did she really say much of anything?
No. I am pretty clear on that much, at least. As best I can tell: a. Denyse doesn't think much of archaeology, or maybe just the current crop of archaeologists or maybe just specialists in Paleolithic musical instruments (see the "Well, that's reassuring" remark). Or something. b. There's an interesting part. Maybe it's so interesting because it has something to do Denyse's interest in dualism, but I'm just guessing. c. Cultural evolution is just one damn invention after another. Maybe. c. And its kinda like math, which is just one damn theorem after another. I think.dbthomas
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ARGH! I get to comment so rarely and here I wasted it on a vague, offhand comment like "That’s the thing about the evolution of human culture. It never actually seems to happen." DOUBLE ARGH!!! (Note: I don't get a chance to comment very often because of my work schedule...and of course World of Warcraft. Truth be told though, I usually try to post more meaningful comments than I did this time. Oh well...I already hit Submit Comment. Maybe I'll have better self control when I post again in a few weeks).KRiS_Censored
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Denyse, I wish you'd be a bit more straightforward when making your points. You seem to do a lot of insinuation without making your position clear. What are you suggesting here??BGOG
July 16, 2009
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Does anyone else find it damn amusing that all Denyse has to do is quote an article and make a vague, offhand comment to stir up various people who are -certain- she was attacking something? Did she deny cultural evolution takes place? Hell, did she really say much of anything? I swear to God, all the lady would have to do is post a Marmaduke comic where the mutt has unearthed a skeleton, attach the comment "Interesting.", and suddenly there'd be people here chomping at the bit, frantically defending the findings of archaeology and demanding she explain her clearly implied derogatory remarks about Australopithecus.nullasalus
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Something of a problem for creationists - a flute that is 6 times older than the Earth (according to them). Perhaps one of them would like to comment. Paul Nelson? Anybody? Bueller?Gaz
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#7 Absolutely. Can someone (maybe even Denyse herself) explain Denyse's point? Is she denying that human culture has evolved?Mark Frank
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<illogic>It seems pretty clear to me. Before 35,000 years ago there were no flutes, therefore there was no such thing as music or culture. Then 35,000 years ago lo and behold there's a flute, which indicates that all of humanity suddenly has music and culture. We do not see the gradual transition between the two that would be expected by cultural evolution and therefore no such transition actually happened. No one had music or culture and then suddenly everyone had them. See? Proof that music and culture are the result of a higher intelligence.</illogic>KRiS_Censored
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That’s the thing about the evolution of human culture. It never actually seems to happen.
Seriously? Do you think it just sprang forth fully-formed from the forehead of Adam or something? Or are we supposed to infer that some sort of distinction between cultural macroevolution vs. cultural microevolution is being made here? How 'bout language? Should we also add that to the list of things that "seem" not to evolve? Oh, and this:
A bit like the history of mathematics, I suppose. Someone just invents an idea like the Pythagorean theorem or zero, and everyone just picks up from there.
? Sounds like change over time to me. And since mathematics is most certainly a part of culture and these ideas actually took a fair amount of time to diffuse before inspiring further advances...I guess cultural evolution does happen after all.dbthomas
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Diffaxial, you are assuming the flute wasn't designed and played by a 14 year old bored with the hunting trip his/her father took him/her on. Funny thing, that historical archeology is.IRQ Conflict
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Here Tajimas, Why all the whining? Surely your keyboard has the letters OGLE on it? http://www.google.ca/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Oldest+flute&meta=&btnG=Google+SearchIRQ Conflict
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That’s the thing about the evolution of human culture. It never actually seems to happen.
Which is tantamount to saying that you observe no difference between this 35,000 year old flute and the (inferred) tradition of which it is part and the instruments of the Berlin Philharmonic and the musical tradition represented by that orchestra. What these researchers are observing is that all the hallmarks of a capacity for culture are observed at least 35,000 years ago - including the transmission of cultural innovation. The cultures themselves have obviously evolved since that time. And before, as well: "Conard said it’s likely that early modern humans — and perhaps Neanderthals, too — were making music before 35,000 years ago. But the Hohle Fels flute and the others found across Europe strengthen evidence, he added, that modern humans in Europe were establishing cultural behaviour similar to our own." "Were establishing" denotes cultural innovation and change - cultural evolution.Diffaxial
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How did they dated the time when the holes were made into the ivory? Did they found a bit of saliva on the musique instrument? Or did they dated the ivory assuming that the animal was killed the same year than the making of the flute?Kyrilluk
July 15, 2009
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Sorry, it's a letter, not an article.Tajimas D
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Ugh. Why are you linking to the Edmonton Sun? The Sun is a rag. At least the Journal has a bit of tact, but The Sun? It's just an AP story, you could have linked to anywhere. FWIW, the actual peer-reviewed article is here: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature08169.htmlTajimas D
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