Karl Giberson and Jesus both love Darwin, and you should too

If Karl *really* wants to know WWJD if he should return on our watch, he should read Revelation. And then he might discover what Jesus will drive.

As pointed out in another thread, the book of revelation was written to seven churches in asia some 2000 years ago. It expressly claims to be of relevance to them and depict events which were soon to take place. If we're still waiting for it to come to pass, I think it would be safe to discard it as a false prophecy. Mung

What I really love about Giberson is the assumptions he makes about Jesus--principally that he is just an average Joe like you and me. Now imagine for a moment that instead of Jesus he had said, oh, Gengis Khan, or Augustus Caesar, and he was asking what sort of car these men would drive. Drive?!! That would be beneath their dignity. You might as well ask what sort of shovel they would choose to dig ditches. Okay, now let's suppose that we change "evolution" to, oh I don't know, phlogiston or philosopher's stone, and we were to ask, "if Einstein were here today, what sort of philosopher's stone would he believe in?" Believe?!! What has belief got to do with it? You "believe" in things when you don't control them, but stuff that's yours isn't stuff you "believe in" any more than you believe in your goldfish. Giberson's mistake, other than a physicist trying to sound knowledgeable about biology ;) is not that he throws the Bible under the bus, but that he's thrown Jesus under the bus, but not before making him drive it to the Darwinfest. If Karl *really* wants to know WWJD if he should return on our watch, he should read Revelation. And then he might discover what Jesus will drive. Robert Sheldon

"Who would Jesus vote for? What car would he drive?" Is this for real? Jesus wouldn't vote for anyone, and he wouldn't drive a car. How would he get around? Magically, I suppose. Finally, would he be a Darwinist? I doubt he would adhere to any "ism." The trick here is not supposing that Jesus is on your side; rather, making certain that you're on his. I'm not suggesting that you try to get anywhere without your car. ;) CannuckianYankee

This guy is unbelievable! I find it difficult to see how anyone can honestly believe that kind of stuff! Sonfaro wrote: ”Karl Giberson and Jesus both love Darwin…” That’s not really saying much. Jesus loved everybody. GOOD ONE! tjguy

Science is not a sinister enterprise aimed at destroying faith. It’s an honest exploration of the wonderful world that God created. Who is arguing that "science" is a sinister enterprise aimed at destroying faith? Other than, perhaps, atheists? I'm not aware of any Christians, even YECs, who make that charge. Now, they may argue that certain scientists are trying to use science or even scientific theories to attack faith. That has the difficulty of being verifiably true. nullasalus

-"Karl Giberson and Jesus both love Darwin..." That's not really saying much. Jesus loved everybody. - Sonfaro Sonfaro

Jesus was no evolutionist; He was the Creator: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. – John 1:1-3 And it was Jesus who also said: But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.' – Mark 10:6 How can Giberson calls himself a Christian if he doesn’t believe the Bible? He should call himself anything but. I think he not only throws the Bible under the bus, he also passes it through the shredder and then throws a lighted match at the shreds. Giberson seems to forget that the writers of the New Testament were apostles, like John, that walked with Jesus or close associates of those who did. So, what they wrote is true or else they were totally deluded. If you are a Christian you believe that what they wrote is true. Giberson is trying to have it both ways in an utter contradiction. aedgar