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I watched the video of atheist Sam Harris trying to prove that science can form a basis for morality (posted by Dr. Dembski below), and it got me to thinking.  Everyone knows the moral law. It is, as Budziszewski writes, that which we can’t not know. Therefore, like everyone else, Mr. Harris knows that his moral impulses are not arbitrary, that they are grounded on something both necessary and objective. But his atheistic metaphysical premises lead to the inescapable conclusion that just the opposite is true, because if his premises are correct, he is compelled to believe that his moral impulses are contingent and subjective, that they are mere accidental byproducts of the interaction of chance and mechanical law.

If one’s premises lead to a conclusion that one knows to be untrue, one has a choice. One can either reject those premises and try to find better ones more congruent with the facts, or one can cling to those premises in the teeth of the facts. If one chooses the latter option, it will become necessary to tell lies to oneself in an effort to reduce the dissonance that must inevitably result from that choice. Here we see Mr. Harris tenaciously clinging to premises that have been falsified by his own experience and telling himself (and everyone else who will listen) whoppers to reduce his dissonance. Let’s consider the obvious lies Mr. Harris tells himself.

Harris’ lies all revolve around the is/ought dichotomy, so let me set some background. In 1739 David Hume first described the is-ought dichotomy in A Treatise of Human Nature. In a nutshell Hume said that prescriptive statements cannot be derived from descriptive statements. In other words, a description of the way a thing “is” cannot form the basis for a statement about how that thing “ought” to be, and for nearly three hundred years Hume’s is/ought dichotomy has been almost universally recognized as true by those who think about such matters.

 The is/ought dichotomy has important implications for science and it limits. Science is concerned with descriptions of how the world “is.” Therefore, most people acknowledge that science has nothing to say about how the world “ought” to be.

But not Harris. No, he says: “It is often thought that there is no description of the way the world is that can tell us how the world ought to be. But I think this is quite clearly untrue.” Note that he says the “is/ought” dichotomy is not “probably untrue,” or “perhaps untrue,” it is “plainly untrue.”

WOW! Stop the presses! Sam Harris has overturned three hundred years of settled metaphysics in only two sentences.

But of course he has not. An assertion is not an argument. (I know, all you Monty Python fans are asserting, “Yes it is!”) The burden of demonstration is on Harris to support his statement with logic, and to his credit he gives it a go. But, as we shall see, he falls woefully short.

Harris’ argument is not new or original. It is a version of “utilitarianism,” which posits that an action’s morality is determined by its “utility,” and its “utility” is in turn determined by whether the action results in a net increase in happiness or pleasure among sentient beings. In other words, an action that increases net happiness is “good” and one that decreases net happiness is “bad.” Harris substitutes the term “human flourishing” for “happiness,” but in all other respects his argument is the same.

Utilitarianism has a kind of first blush plausibility, but one does not have to think about it very long before it comes off the rails in at least two important respects. First, we know for a certain fact that some acts ought to be suppressed no matter how pleasurable they may be for the person who commits them. For example, utilitarianism would lead to the conclusion that if it can be demonstrated that a pedophile’s pleasure from molesting children is greater than the suffering he causes, then, for that pedophile, molesting children should be considered “good.” Any system that might possibly lead to such a conclusion is obviously worthless.

Secondly, and at a more fundamental level, we see that Harris has not really solved the is/ought problem at all. Let’s look at his argument again. His says the methods of science can be used to show us how to increase human flourishing, and when they are used in this way net happiness is increased, and that is “good.” Problem solved.

 But is it? No, Harris has made the exact same error Hume recognized nearly three hundred years ago. Hume wrote that he was often surprised to find that writers would talk about the world as it “is” and from there switch to statements about how the world “ought” to be without trying to connect the former with the latter. Hume observed:

This change is imperceptible; but is however, of the last consequence. For as this ought, or ought not, expresses some new relation or affirmation, ’tis necessary that it shou’d be observ’d and explain’d; and at the same time that a reason should be given; for what seems altogether inconceivable, how this new relation can be a deduction from others, which are entirely different from it.

In the exact same way Harris has smuggled an “ought” into his argument through use of an “unspoken premise.” Harris’s argument can be broken down as follows:

 1. Science can show us that which can increase human flourishing.

2. Therefore, science can show us what is “good.”

But wait a minute. Isn’t there an unspoken premise that precedes premise 1? Yes there is. If we express the unspoken premise, Harris’ argument turns into the following:

 1. We ought to increase human flourishing.

2. Science can show us that which can increase human flourishing.

 3. Therefore, science can show us what is “good.”

Can Harris’ unspoken premise (i.e., the new premise 1) be demonstrated scientifically? No, it cannot be. Harris’ unspoken premise runs headlong into Phillip Johnson’s famous “grand sez who.” Who says that human flourishing ought to be increased?

The Sudanese government has committed or at least allowed genocide in the Darfur region. Apparently those in charge in Sudan believe it is “good” to decrease human flourishing among millions. I (and doubtless you) say they are wrong. But can “science” arbitrate between the Sudanese government leaders’ opinion and ours? No. Unless there is an objective moral standard that transcends both the Sudanese leaders’ opinion and our opinion, there can be only “those with power” and “those without power.”

Fortunately, there is such a standard, and that standard says, “Thou shall not kill.” Therefore, we can know for a certain fact that the genocide in Darfur is evil, no matter who may disagree with us.

Not so Sam Harris. He says, genocide decreases human flourishing and is therefore wrong. The Sudanese leaders say, “why should we care about the flourishing of our enemies?” To which Sam Harris says . . . [crickets] . . .

Comments
Eric080,
There is a difference though between a voluntary act that involves yourself and/or consenting people (like eating a bowl of Fruity Pebbles over Honey Nut Cheerios, liking red shirts versus blue shirts, or even something like BDSM or homosexuality) and one that treads on other peoples’ toes. Morality is designed as a resolution to those types of conflicts.
Morality is designed to resolve what type of cereal you should eat and what color shirt you wear? I mean, I appreciate your honesty, because subjective morality is exactly this, and nothing more.Clive Hayden
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composer,
Empathy relies on morality, it doesn’t create it. Maybe, maybe not. But as Barry Arrington notes in the post, “An assertion is not an argument.”
But common sense is.Clive Hayden
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Mustela,
You are supporting Barry Arrington’s claim that “Everyone knows the moral law.” Since you are a member of the set “everyone”, that implies that you know the moral law. Please demonstrate your knowledge by articulating, in your own words, the moral law that everyone knows.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/lewis/abolition4.htmClive Hayden
March 31, 2010
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---Aleta: "“How about you just summarize: is it moral for our nation to be over in Afghanistan inflicting collateral death and suffering on non-combatants and deliberately trying to kill others; and if a young person were asked to go, would they or would they not be justified in thinking it would be immoral to do so." ---"What’s your answer to that question, and why. If [you] believe there is an objective and transcendent moral law which answers this question, then tell us what it is and explain how it applies to the situation." First, understand that abortion is, always and everywhere unjust while war, under some rare circumstancees, can be just. Based on the NATURAL MORAL LAW, the conditions necessary for a just war are as follows: The damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain; all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective; there must be serious prospects of success; the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. In my judgment, the war in Afghanistan does not meet these criteria and based on that judgment, I would classify it as an unjust war. However, it is a debatable issue and someone might be able to provide good reasons for believing that it does meet that test. One cannot make a blanket statement that all wars are unjust in the same way that all abortions are unjust. Without the natural moral law, however, there is no guide whatsoever for judging whether a nation is unjustly waging war, as in the case of reckless aggression, or unjustly avoiding it, when it would be necesssary for the just purpose of avoiding slavery. These are often difficult decisions to make, which is precisely why we need the moral law--as a dependable standard for informing our response to all the hard questions. Without it, we have no guide at all, except for personal reasons, such as greed, hatred, bigotry, selfishness, irrational ambition, and, in the reverse case, cowardice.StephenB
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Before going any further, it is also time to distinguish between descriptive and normative ethics [BTW, from this point forward I will use "ethics" inclusively to mean either "ethics" or "morals", as the two terms mostly differ in derivation, rather than meaning]: DESCRIPTIVE ETHICS "Descriptive ethics" are descriptive statements of what people in various cultures, situations, societies, etc. say are the "good" or "right" things to do. For example, one might observe the behavior of the Nazis and conclude that their ethics were grounded on the absolute superiority of the Aryan race, which in their view not only justified their actions, it made such things as the mass murder of the genetically "defective", gypsies, homosexuals, Jews, and mentally ill necessary. Given the observed history of the Nazis and their racial doctrines, this would indeed be a valid generalization about their morals/ethics, but only in the descriptive sense. NORMATIVE ETHICS "Normative ethics" are normative (i.e. "law-like") statements of what people ought to do, regardless of their particular cultures, situations, societies, etc. In other words, descriptive ethics are necessarily "relative" (i.e. situation-dependent), whereas normative ethics are necessarily "absolute" (i.e. situation-independent). And, as several commentators in this thread have pointed out (stephenB perhaps the most forcefully, but s/he has not been alone in this effort), there is a fundamental logical contradiction between descriptive/relativistic and normative/absolute ethics: the former can be shown to demonstrably violate what any rational person would consider to be valid ethical prescriptions. That is, asserting that "a good person is required to murder people who are genetically "defective", gypsies, homosexuals, Jews, and mentally ill" is absolutely wrong. We all know this; indeed, even the Nazis knew this, which is why they eventually had to resort to killing technologies that would remove them from direct responsibility for their actions). So, what remains for us to determine is how to formulate our ethics in such a way that they will not only not justify the actions of the Nazis, but will require us to stop anyone from doing what they did.Allen_MacNeill
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Also, Stephen, I'm not evading your questions: I'm disagreeing with you, and stating what I do believe.Aleta
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SteveB:
Sure, he can appeal all he wants. But the point is that none of these things is binding. . .
So? That's the way the world is. A so-called objective moral code is binding how? Here's an experiment: Imagine that I have an objective morality in which women are not considered capable of making their own decisions. This is obvious to me. You have an objective morality in which women are considered capable of making their own decisions. Try to convince me to abandon my objective morality for yours without appealing to contingent factors.composer
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First, it will help in the discussion that follows to distinguish between the terms "validity" and "justification". VALIDITY "Validity" usually refers to the outcome of a logical operation, such as the construction of a deductive syllogism or the testing of an hypothesis via the hypothetico-deductive (i.e. "scientific") method. • In deductive reasoning, a conclusion is "valid" if it follows logically from its major and minor premises. • In inductive reasoning (and its variants, abductive reasoning and consilience), a conclusion is "valid" if it is not falsified by the preponderance of the data ("preponderance" being defined somewhat differently in the different branches of the natural sciences; in biology it is typically greater than 95% of the observed cases/data). JUSTIFICATION "Justification" refers to the method by which ethical/moral prescriptions are determined to be valid. • In the empirical sciences, determining if an hypothesis (i.e. a generalization about what some observable phenomenon) is) is "valid" involves either simple description (i.e. "natural history") or experimentation (i.e. "controlled manipulation of independent variables"). • In meta-ethics, determining if an ethic (i.e. a statement about what a person/people ought to do) is "valid" involves examining either the internal logic of that ethical prescription or the effects of putting that ethical prescription into practice. Which brings us to the principle difficulty with Sam Harris' piece. He does indeed commit what G. E. Moore called the "naturalistic fallacy": he derives an "is" statement from an "ought" statement, which is a violation of one of the most basic principles of meta-ethics. As Hume, Moore, Rawls, and virtually all other ethicists have argued, one cannot justify an ethic by showing that it is derived from a statement about the way the world is, regardless of how empirically "valid" that "is" statement might be. In the context of this thread, this means that no amount of arguing that humans are "social animals" or that we are "innately altruistic" or that "our sociality predisposes us to act ethically/morally" can be used to justify an ethical prescription. Even if those descriptive statements about humans are valid (and I believe they are, at least superficially and in some, but not all, contexts), they cannot tell us what we ought to do. Empirical generalizations about human behavior can only tell us what we have a tendency to do, not what we ought to do. If we are indeed altruistic and cooperative (and there is a great deal of ethological evidence supporting this generalization), the most one can say about the application of these tendencies to what we ought to do is, if being altruistic and cooperative is what we ought to do, then doing so will not be as difficult as it would be if we were innately selfish and competitive.Allen_MacNeill
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Eric080; You are, of course, free to live a life based on the maxim of might-makes-right if you so choose.William J. Murray
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At this point it seems you are evading my question. Is the was in Afghanistan morally just? On what criteria and upon what evidence? What absolute moral values answers this question?Aleta
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--efren ts: "You really need to pay closer attention. That was a quote from Aleta, not my words." Yes, they were, but you will both evade the question, so the distinction isn't important.StephenB
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the person who disagrees with you can appeal to your interests, sympathies, shared personal history, values, and so forth to convince you that his or her view is worth sharing.
Sure, he can appeal all he wants. But the point is that none of these things is binding, which all moral arguments require. Even—or especially—from the perspective of his own world view, most Sam-style naturalists argue that religious ideology has evolved presumably because it provided evolutionary advantages to our ancestors at some point in the distant past—just like any other characteristic we might have. Given this, if natural selection has seen fit to preserve in me a set of values, interests and sympathies that is different than his, who is he to tell me that mine are “wrong?” The identical thoughtless, mechanistic process that gave me mine, gave him his. Again, without a standard to which we can both refer, such rights and wrongs are meaningless. Harris frequently preaches enough oughts & shoulds and rights & wrongs to embarrass a southern baptist, while his world view provides no basis for such sermonizing. Even in a perfect world, all science can do it explain what is. It is powerless to explain what ought to be. And the fact that he cannot live consistently within the confines of his own presuppositions is a very serious weakness to his whole point of view.SteveB
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As the saying goes, even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. Harris is right when he says that religion is bad. Of course, his solution to the problem is wrong, but that doesn't detract from the soundness of his premise. http://www.thenakedgospel.com/part-2-religion-is-a-headacheriddick
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Sorry to come into this discussion so late (I've been fighting a bad cold). However, despite coming into this rather late, I think there is still quite a bit I can contribute to this debate. Indeed, having read through all of the comments so far, I find it fascinating that no one has yet presented even the briefest outline of the two dominant theories of ethical justification (usually referred to as "meta-ethics"), nor mentioned the two predominant theories of ethics formulated within those meta-ethical systems of justification, nor cited any of the proponents of these traditions (with the exception of David Hume and utilitarianism). Before going into them, I would first like to state that I have spent almost four decades studying and investigating the intersection between science and ethics (or "morals" if you lean more toward Latin than Greek). As a result of this experience it seems to me that referencing and exploring some of these dominant ethical traditions might help bring some clarity to this discussion. As an introduction to such a presentation, I would like to first respond to a few of the comments made so far: In comment #73 Clive Hayden wrote:
"Morality is always the premise, not the conclusion; it has no contingency."
In comment #104 stephenB wrote:
"...it is impossible to make a moral choice without a moral standard based on objective truth, under which circumstances you can only make a preferred choice based on your own selfish instincts..."
In comment #124 stephenB wrote:
"Moral relativism always degenerates into tyranny—every time—without exception. Without the objective moral law as the ultimate arbiter between disputed claims for rights, power always makes the decision."
And in comment #134 William J. Murray wrote:
"Might-makes-right is immoral; it’s the opposite of the very idea of rights and morals. Rights and morals are supposed to prevent us from descending into might-makes-right tyranny and abuse, not facilitate that evil."
Long-time readers of these threads might initially be shocked by this, but I fully and emphatically agree with all of these comments. Furthermore, I would elaborate on that agreement by stating that both a logical and empirical analysis of the dominant theories of ethics, their meta-ethical justifications, and their empirical effects supports my assessment. Finally, I personally have come to these conclusions from a starting position that was diametrically opposed to my current understanding. That is, I once believed that: 1) there is/are no "transcendent ethical/moral law(s)"; 2) morality (if such a thing even exists) is entirely dependent on context (i.e. "relative" not "absolute"); 3) that a thorough understanding of human biology and evolution can (indeed, should, or even must) provide us with everything we need to know to formulate a valid code of ethical/moral behavior; and 4) that given the foregoing, the only valid ethical code would be one that is rooted in and ultimately derived from empirical reality, context-dependent/relativistic, and directly derived from our empirical knowledge of biology and evolution. I now completely reject all four of these assertions, and do so not only as a result of my much longer experience as an observer of nature (including "human nature") but also as a person who has taken a great deal of time and care to study the various ethical traditions and the observable effects those traditions have had on the behavior of people who profess them. This will take a while, so I'm going to split it up into several comments. Here goes...Allen_MacNeill
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Eric080 asks William: prove to me that “might makes right” is immoral. Do you care to defend this Eric080? Nazi Concentration Camps (Nuremberg Trial Film) WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2074187239501225850# ,,,The file entitled "Nazi Concentration Camps" was entered as evidence at the 1945 Nuremberg Trials of Hermann Göring, Rudolf Hess, and 22 other Nazi officials at the end of World War II. It presented a stark picture of the atrocities of the Holocaust and ensured than no one would ever doubt the meaning of the charge "crimes against humanity."bornagain77
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William, I don't know how to tell you this.....YET AGAIN....prove to me that "might makes right" is immoral. Objectively test it. Just do it. I'm here. I'll wait. Take your time. REGARDLESS of what you feel, it does not make it objectively so. It is an opinion.Eric080
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SteveB [135], Interesting comment. Point #1 is true whether or not there's objective morality. You're still free to reject another's views. Point #2 is false, in that the person who disagrees with you can appeal to your interests, sympathies, shared personal history, values, and so forth to convince you that his or her view is worth sharing. Moreover, the objectivist who claims to have an objective morality -- but whose objective morality differs from yours -- will make precisely the same (non-objective) appeals. What else can they do?composer
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Composer: The previous comment (135) was in response to 132... a couple comments got in while I was still writing.SteveB
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OK. let’s assume for the sake of argument that we agree on the value of human flourishing. As it stands, Sam and I have very different perspectives on how best to accomplish this end. Given the fact that there’s “nothing objective” about his moral views, it would follow that: 1) I am completely free to reject his opinions about how to bring about human flourishing should I choose to do so, and 2) He (or any other “nothing objective” proponent) has no basis to criticize me for doing so.SteveB
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Eric 130 states: "Steve, power makes the decisions anyway. Always has and always will. You don’t think God’s might “makes right”? It kind of does by definition." Who said anything about god? I said that moral law must either be objective and transcendent, or they are ultimately based on might makes right. IOW, whether or not there is a god involved, without an appeal to a transcendent and objective moral law, all other arguments are just window-dressing around "might makes right" to make it more palatable. Might-makes-right is immoral; it's the opposite of the very idea of rights and morals. Rights and morals are supposed to prevent us from descending into might-makes-right tyranny and abuse, not facilitate that evil.William J. Murray
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SteveB, you ask:
What is “social and collective” but the sum of multiple personal opinions?
Well, I think it would be more than that: it would be the sum of personal opinions, collectively enforced habits, daily rituals, political and material interests, loves and hatreds, perceptual biases, ideological assumptions, etc. But I don't see why that's a deal-breaker, any more than the converse:
What is “objective” but the idealization of a particular socially derived morality?
Riddle me that.composer
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SteveB, Harris does assume that people ought to increase human flourishing -- he's not making a syllogism but an enthymeme. However, I don't see how he appeals to objective morality. It may be an appeal to a sense of self-interest combined with an evolved sense of empathy. That is, the assumption might be put as "reader, you probably agree that we ought to increase human flourishing." Nothing objective about that.composer
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Composer: OK. There are now two issues on the table: The first is the more significant, and is still unanswered; Harris can't make his argument without an appeal to universal morality--something he clearly does. Most of the folks on your side of the aisle agree with Harris' argument while simultaneously rejecting the means by which he makes it. I guess I see this as a problem: you can't have it both ways. Second,
Morality, in my view, is social, collective: we make arguments for particular moralities, but unlike arguments about taste, those arguments don’t appeal only to personal idiosyncracies
What is "social and collective" but the sum of multiple personal opinions? (I'm pretty sure you'd readily agree that a group of people who come together to agree on a particular moral question doesn't necessarily make them "right"). All that does is take us from "I like chocolate and you like strawberry" to "We like chocolate but you like strawberry." If you were a strawberry fan, would that be enough to convince you to change your position? I'm guessing probably not.SteveB
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Steve, power makes the decisions anyway. Always has and always will. You don't think God's might "makes right"? It kind of does by definition.Eric080
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STephenB:
Does that care and compassion extend to unborn babies?
You really need to pay closer attention. That was a quote from Aleta, not my words. You should ask him/her. And you would be smart to do so because I would just sing Monty Python to you.efren ts
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Yes, and to men, women, and children in Afghanistan. Are you going to answer my question about the war? From above: "How about you just summarize: is it moral for our nation to be over in Afghanistan inflicting collateral death and suffering on non-combatants and deliberately trying to kill others; and if a young person were asked to go, would they or would they not be justified in thinking it would be immoral to do so. What’s your answer to that question, and why. If [you] believe there is an objective and transcendent moral law which answers this question, then tell us what it is and explain how it applies to the situation. At the very least, tell us whether you think that war is just, or not. Where do you stand on that?Aleta
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"Without the objective moral law as the ultimate arbiter between disputed claims for rights, power always makes the decision." Bring back the divine right of kings! Now that was objective morality, given by God through the ages.composer
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SteveB [123], I believe that moral judgments are based neither in some preexisting objective morality nor in mere opinion (the upshot, I think, of your "red pepper" comparison). Morality, in my view, is social, collective: we make arguments for particular moralities, but unlike arguments about taste, those arguments don't appeal only to personal idiosyncracies.composer
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--efen ts: "And no, my choices are not based on my own “selfish instincts.” I am much more than selfish instincts, and my sense of morality encompasses my full humanity, which includes, among other things, care and compassion for others." Does that care and compassion extend to unborn babies?StephenB
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---William J. Murray: ..."Without transcendant, objective moral law, all other versions of morality boil down to the same thing; might makes right." That is exactly right. Moral relativism always degenerates into tyranny---every time---without exception. Without the objective moral law as the ultimate arbiter between disputed claims for rights, power always makes the decision.StephenB
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