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Neuroscience: Are more pop culture mags “getting” the problem with atheist materialism?

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Time Magazine addresses the problem that neuroscientists who think the mind is real often discuss (John Cloud, October 13, 2009):

How people react to a medication depends in large part on how they think about it.

Exactly why the placebo and nocebo responses arise is a puzzle, but a fascinating article in Wired magazine noted earlier this year that the positive placebo response to drugs has increased during clinical trials over the past few years. The article speculated that drug advertising – which exploded after 1997, when the Food and Drug Administration began allowing direct-to-consumer ads – has led us to expect more from drugs. Those expectations, in turn, have made us feel better just for popping a pill. (Placebo responses can also occur simply when you book appointments with doctors[*] or psychotherapists[**].)

No surprise, really. If your problem is,

– *Why should I pay $159.95 plus tax for a medication? Dunno. Maybe some consumer research would pay off.

But if the question is

– **”Why am I still living with The Mad Idiot?”, well, why are you? In most jurisdictions there would be a peaceful way to end the relationship. If not, please hold a revolution soon.

Anyway, sitting in a psychotherapist’s office helps you, because it establishes that you take your own welfare seriously. In an intelligently designed universe, that is the first step on the road to recovery.

8 Replies to “Neuroscience: Are more pop culture mags “getting” the problem with atheist materialism?

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    anonym says:

    “The placebo is a trickster,” says Ted Kaptchuk, a placebo expert at Harvard Medical School.

    George P. Hansen, call your office.

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    DATCG says:

    The placebo effect comes in handy for the new democrat healtcare plan, especially for the elderly in America. According to Obama advisor Robert Reich, the plan is to “let you die.”

    Obama advisor, Robert Reich’s Solution, let older people die

    I’m reposting this from below in your previous healtcare question. So that people might see the truth about government “death panels” and decisions by the bureaucratic elitist.

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    Anthony09 says:

    The placebo effect has nothing to do with mind-brain separation (as if that were even a coherent proposition). The placebo effect is easily accounted for in an entirely materialist biology.

  4. 4
    Nakashima says:

    I have thought that the placebo effect is a subtype of general observer effects and reactivity. i would expect the topic to be of interest whether you think the mind is independent of the brain or is a function of the brain.

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    Seversky says:

    DATCG @ 2

    I’m reposting this from below in your previous healtcare question. So that people might see the truth about government “death panels” and decisions by the bureaucratic elitist.

    What? You think there are no “death panels” now? Just because the decisions are taken in the plush offices of an insurance company by corporate fat-cats, you think that is acceptable?

    People are being allowed to die now, either because the insurance companies decide they will not fund treatment or because the hapless patient suddenly finds they under-insured or because they have no insurance at all because it is too expensive.

    What you do not seem to see is that, ironically, in the American healthcare industry, you are actually supporting a Darwinist approach of “survival of the fittest” or, more accurately, survival of the richest.

    If you think that is right, if you think that is morally defensible then that is your choice. Just don’t complain about evolution and morality again.

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    Seversky @ 5

    What you do not seem to see is that, ironically, in the American healthcare industry, you are actually supporting a Darwinist approach of “survival of the fittest” or, more accurately, survival of the richest.

    If we throw the silly Sky Daddy nonsense out the window (as we should) and consider the empirical evidence that every human is not equal, how do we measure their worth?

    By the usefulness of their work to the society.

    And the only measurement we have of this usefulness is money.

    So the rich should get the best medical care, because equality is a lie foisted onto us by the weak via the delusion of a slave morality – a morality which is holding us back as a species.

    If you think that is right, if you think that is morally defensible then that is your choice. Just don’t complain about evolution and morality again.

    I agree.

    The government (i.e., the powerful) should take control of all means of production in regards to medical goods and services.

    This will result, like it always has in centrally planned economies, in shortages of those goods and services.

    Finally, the medical sector of society will collapse and we will progress past the need for medicine. Medicine is inherently evil because it allows the weak to live and steal vital resources from the strong. Like Darwin wrote:

    We civilised men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. […] Thus the weak members of civilised societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.

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    hummus man says:

    Angryoldfatman:

    consider the empirical evidence that every human is not equal, how do we measure their worth?

    By the usefulness of their work to the society.

    And the only measurement we have of this usefulness is money.

    So the rich should get the best medical care, because equality is a lie foisted onto us by the weak

    Rebuttal in four words:

    Paris. Hilton. Mother. Theresa.

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    Graham says:

    To hummus man @7

    I think #6 was sarcasm.

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