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Charles Townes

Charles Townes was the co-inventor of the laser and winner of the 1964 Nobel Prize in physics. Jason Rennie of the SciPhi Show had an absolutely marvelous interview with Townes recently. This interview had many quotable gems from Townes.

Here is the link:

Charles Townes

Do you have CD player or other optical device which uses a laser? You can credit Townes for that!

40th anniversary of the laser

Science Daily — SAN FRANCISCO — As part of its participation in the world’s largest technical conference on lasers and electro-optics, here this week, Lucent Technologies is celebrating the 40th anniversary of the publication of the scientific paper that described the concept and design for one of the century’s greatest inventions – the laser

Lasers today are used in communications, medicine, manufacturing, consumer electronics, scientific research and other areas. Telephone conversations, video, Internet traffic and other data are transmitted as beams of laser light through glass fibers, and the capacity of optical networks doubles every 18 months

There is a parallel interview with PZ Myers on the SciPhi show here. This is what PZ said of Townes in Townes and the Templeton Prize:

PZ writes:

Pious frauds are a dime a dozen, but pious frauds who have won a Nobel prize [i.e. Charles Townes]? They’re worth a million and a half dollars.

PZ calls Townes a fraud?

PZ appears to suffer from physics envy. Townes outshines PZ as a scientist and PZ doesn’t hold a candle to him. For that matter Townes towers over PZ, Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Charles Darwin combined. I guess it must get under PZ’s skin that Townes is a greater scientist than PZ. Not just greater, far greater.

PS
[The quote in the title was from Charles Townes on evolution, intelligent design, and the meaning of life ]

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I actually got to shake Townes hand when I graduated from Berkeley in 98. I wasn't a Christian then and didn't know he was either. Some of the quotes written above are incredibly insightful on the faith committment that it takes to be a scientist. In fact, because the christian/jewish world view emphatically did not worship nature ,and in fact took the mythology out of nature, scientists knew for sure that they could study it without the wrath of nature herself exacting capricous revenge. That is why modern science was born out of the late medeval/Renescance in Europe, where the christian worldview was dominant.DrDan
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A breath of fresh air.mike1962
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The esssential role of faith in religion is so well known that it is usually taken as characteristic of religion, and as distinguishing religion from science. But faith is essential to science too, although we do not so generally recognize the basic need and nature of faith in science. Faith is necessary for the scientist to even get started, and deep faith necessary for him to carry out his tougher tasks. Why? Because he must be personally committed to the belief that there is order in the universe and that the human mind--in fact his own mind--has a good chance of understanding this order. Without this belief, there would be little point in intense effort to try to understand a presumably disorderly or incomprehensible world. Such a world would take us back ot the days of superstition, when man thought capricious forces maniupulated his universe. In fact, it is just this faith in an orderly universe, understandable ot man, which allowed the basic change from an age of supersitioun to an age of science, and has made possible our scientific progress. Charles Townes Making Waves p 161
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The necessity of faith in science is reminiscent of the description of religous faith attributed to Constantine: "I believe so that I may know." But such faith is now so deeply rooted in the scientist that most of us never even stop to think that it is there at all. Charles Townes Making Waves p 162
an atheist but good physicist firend who knew of my religious faith, facetiously asked me, "Did God ever really help you in the laboratory?" And I said, "Yes, I think so." Charles Townes Making Waves p 197
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