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Origin of life: Researchers claim life could have existed 4.4 billion years ago, before Earth cooled.

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So why are these University of Colorado at Boulder people – and New Scientist – determined to prove that God must have created life?

Look, I don’t care, but consider this:

Just when claims for Akilia, as evidence of life at 3.82 billion years ago have not held up, some researchers are even more ambitious than that.

As reported in New Scientist, Oleg Abramov and Steve Mojzsis of the University of Colorado in Boulder suggest that life could have existed on earth as early as 4.4 billion years ago:

… hardy life-forms could have survived if they were buried underground.

They were using a computer model and they assumed that these primeval life forms were extremophiles (simple, extremely hardy life forms).

… heat from the impacts would not have penetrated very deeply into the underlying solid crust. The layer heated to the sterilisation point, about 110 ̊C, would be only about 300 metres thick. High-temperature ‘extremophile’ microbes, like those in the hot springs of Yellowstone National Park, would have survived at greater depths, down to their limit of about 4 km.

Mojzsis argues that the Late Heavy Bombardment of Earth by asteroids “pruned, rather than frustrated, life.”

That conclusion is reasonable, says Kevin Zahnle of NASA’s Ames Research Center in California.

It certainly is, if you are looking for an argument that God created the first life on Earth. I wonder if either he or New Scientist have thought this one out ….

Abramov and Mojzsis will present their research to the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Texas on March 23. Here’s the .pdf.

In fairness, I must warn you that I consider New Scientist the National Enquirer of popular science magazines, and I am also wary of computer models in these situations. So I would just wait and see.

See also: Podcast: Chemist Charles Garner on chemical evolution; Why the Huygens probe – sadly – probably won’t tell us much; Mars red but not dead?; NASA says, could be life on Mars, could be rocks; Origin of life: What can the Saturnian moon Titan tell us?; Origin of life: Alien origin taken seriously? Ghost of Francis Crick smiles wanly; Origin of life: A meatier theory? Or just another theory?; Origin of life: There must be life out there vs. there can’t be life out there; Origin of life: Oldest Earth rocks may show signs of life, in which case … ; Origin of life: Positive evidence of intelligent design?; Origin of life: But is being greedy enough?; Origin of life: Ah, that “just so happens” intermediate series of chemical steps; Why should the search for Darwin’s “warm little puddle” be publicly funded?

Also just up at Colliding Universes:

Quantum theory: Finally facing up to its threat to special relativity

Physics: A peek behind the veil of reality earns physicist Templeton Prize

Origin of life: Doubt cast on oldest trace of life – not so old, new research says

Comments
Alan Fox:
One thing that really weakens the case for ID most obviously for me is the Orwellian way the moderation on ID blogs is conducted.
As compared to the insults and mud-slinging to be found on sites such as AtBC? Yeah those tactics show that the ToE is a top-notch "theory". Add that to the FACT that neither Alan nor any other anti-IDist can support their claims. Top-notch indeed.
Four years ago I predicted the demise of ID as any kind of possible route for scientific research within five years.
And you have been proven wrong time and again. The more we know the better ID appears as the explanation. The "Waiting for Two Mutations" paper that tried to refute Behe is a perfect example of the scientific data which shows your position is nonsense. So all Alan is left with is bald declarations.Joseph
March 21, 2009
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Well, I am sure many here will miss Alan Fox. It is his own choice to leave, of course. Regarding our Comments policy, here it is: Comments Clive Hayden is specifically responsible for checking discussions now and then, in case a disruptive person sits down at your virtual table and starts making a scene. One useful approach is not to say things on the blog that one would not say in a public meeting. This IS in fact a public meeting.O'Leary
March 21, 2009
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Arthur: I am sorry that you are going away, you seem to be a fine guy with whom to discuss. But I can't say I share your views about what happens here. Obviously, it's a blog, and anything can happen, and there is certainly much passion in both fields about this subject. In the past, the moderation policy here has been IMO too hard, and I have never agreed with that, but things have changed much, and the new moderation policy seems quite fair to me (not perfect, obviously, but who is looking for perfection on a blog?) I would never judge darwinian evolution from what happens on some darwinist blogs. I can judge the single persons sometimes, but if I judge a theory I do that for its contents, and not for the personality of its followers. Everybody, especially darwinists, seems to depict the war between darwinian evolution and ID as though it were a war between supporters of two different football teams. I like to think that there is something more important at stake: the confrontation between two very different scientific theories, and different approaches to science and scientific knowledge. It is an important debate, and I am sorry that you think differently. You say: "Lack of integrity, lack of honesty merely highlights the lack of content." I don't agree with your judgement about integrity and honesty: lack of them can be easily found on both fields, but I have some ideas about where they abound more. But that's not the point. The point is that there is no lack of content. That's absolutely false. There are a lot of contents, and I have had extremely interesting discussions with some darwinists, here and elsewhere. I can accept that you don't agree with those contents, but not that you deny their existence. I don't think I have been just chatting about trivial things here, for a few years, and the same is true for many other IDers and for many serious darwinists who have had the patience and goodwill to participate. I think I owed you this brief comment for the serious attitude that you have shown in our extremely brief interaction. I wish you all the best.gpuccio
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Off topic. I have been following the fortunes of the Intelligent Design movement for a few years now, more for the sociological interest than anything, as the arguments and claims, especially that ID is science, or that it has the potential do produce useful insights, seem, frankly unconvincing. One thing that really weakens the case for ID most obviously for me is the Orwellian way the moderation on ID blogs is conducted. Lack of integrity, lack of honesty merely highlights the lack of content. If you think isolating yourselves in an echo chamber is the way to advance the cause of ID, so be it. Four years ago I predicted the demise of ID as any kind of possible route for scientific research within five years. I don't expect, from what I have witnessed here lately, to be proved wrong. I shall be wasting no more time here. My apologies to gpuccio for not continuing with the discussion on oxytocin and FCSI. If he or anyone would like to have further contact, you can reach me at alanfox@free.frArthur Smith
March 21, 2009
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The holy "consensus" is really starting to resemble a Hindu creation myth.tribune7
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