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Part III: Pass me a Corona!

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There are numerous article out there right now indicating that the fatality ratio of this corona virus looks to be in the same range as that of a seasonal flu. Dr. Fauci keeps saying that he thinks this virus will be a seasonal flu. But, of course.

Now, there’s a study by an Israeli scientist who tells us that this virus has its own pattern and that this patterns works itself out over a set period of time, lockdown or no. He marvels at the fear factor at work. It’s like a seasonal flu. He asks: was this exponential growth? His answer: no. (Was I not mocked for not understanding that we were dealing with exponential growth——–while I was looking at a chart that was going up linearly!)

Frankly, I’m tired of this nonsense. I live in California. Six weeks of this virus: about 800 deaths. We all mourn those who die; but 800 deaths is next to nothing. In the meantime I have to wear a facemask to buy detergent, can’t go to the library or the beach. Easter Sunday didn’t happen in so many ways. Why isn’t life back to normal right now? Why? A Democratic governor. We’re witnessing the politicization of science before our eyes by people who can’t function rationally. Alas.

And, how did we get here? Bureaucratic mismanagement, as usual. Our friend, Neil Ferguson, has published models over the years that did exactly what his latest one did: completely miss the mark by orders of magnitude. This isn’t the first time. Why did anybody who knows anything pay any attention to him?

I might not respond very much. This is being so depressingly mismanaged.

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The number of confirmed COVID-19 cases rocketed up in western Kansas this week from infection clusters involving at least six private businesses, state health officials said. Kansas Department of Health and Environment Secretary Lee Norman during Gov. Laura Kelly’s daily news conference on Thursday noted that there are now 35 patient clusters, up from 26 on Wednesday, and that the category of private businesses has seen the most growth. There are now 13 clusters in private business statewide. Norman declined to say whether the clusters involved meat packing plants “until we get our investigation team in and sort through it.”rhampton7
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The North Dakota National Guard tested hundreds of people on Thursday, April 16, at LM Wind Power, a General Electric-owned company where at least nine people had tested positive for the disease, which is caused by a novel coronavirus that’s swept across the country. “While this is still under investigation and we don’t have the final results, we know that this is a very serious event,” Steven Weiser, the president of Altru Health System, said at a virtual city press conference in which he pleaded with residents to stay home, avoid touching their face, wash their hands and self-isolate, if possible, especially if they or a member of their family is considered an “essential” worker. “The potential impact we now face has the ability to overwhelm our health care workers and our health system .... This is a big deal. We need you to take this seriously and respond appropriately.” Guard members and other healthcare workers tested 425 people, 15 of which have already come back positive, Weiser said. About 880 people work at LM, mostly in shifts of 100 to 150. In total, they, plus their families, mean that about 2,500 people were in potentially direct contact with the virus. Test results typically come back from the North Dakota Department of Health lab in Bismarck within 24 to 28 hours.rhampton7
April 17, 2020
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An outbreak of COVID-19 has forced the Ogle County Health Department to order the closure of Hormel’s Rochelle Foods plant in Rochelle, IL. As of Friday, 24 cases have been linked to the facility: 19 in Ogle County, three in Whiteside County and two in Winnebago County. Rochelle City Manager Jeff Fiegenschuh said that the plant employs 800 people and over 900 if you count contractors. He also spoke to what will follow if the plant chooses not to comply with the closure order. "They don't have a choice," Fiegenschuh said. "If they don't comply, the county will seek a court order."rhampton7
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The ConAgra plant in Marshall, Missouri, is temporarily closing after a number of employees were diagnosed with COVID-19. A company spokesperson said that 20 employees are sick with coronavirus and that the closure is necessary to maintain cleanliness at the facility. “The health and safety of our employees is our top priority. In our facility in Marshall, Missouri, we have been using social distancing techniques, screening temperatures and increased sanitization in common areas to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Unfortunately, approximately 20 employees have been diagnosed with COVID-19 so we have made the decision to suspend operations at the facility until April 27,” said company spokesman Dan Hare.rhampton7
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“Why is it that the theists are the most dogmatic and least able to compromise? Is that why they see us the same way? That’s the way they view the world: it’s all black and white, you’re with us or against us.” Well it’s not all theists, in fairness, I know a few published and well-respected evolutionary biologists who are theists. But people who are intellectually insecure, and have a reason to be, often like to reduce the world to black and white, because it makes them feel like they know things, and reduces their anxiety.Jim Thibodeau
April 17, 2020
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More than a dozen Iowa elected officials on Friday implored Tyson Fresh Meats to close their Waterloo, IA pork processing plant, saying the coronavirus is spreading among workers and is endangering both employees and the surrounding community. The Waterloo area officials also accused Gov. Kim Reynolds of misleading Iowans on the seriousness of the outbreak among the nearly 3,000 workers at the plant and for failure to take more aggressive action. Reynolds said at her daily news conference Friday that the state’s goal is to avoid closing the plant, which can process 19,000 pigs a day. She said the state is working with Tyson to test employees at facilities in Columbus Junction and Waterloo, and to trace their connections to others to identify community spread. Reynolds said 2,700 tests were sent to the Waterloo plant and they will be processed at a state laboratory over the weekend.rhampton7
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@105 Bornagain77
I, for one, appreciate her (Denyse's) time and talent very much.
Me too. And her collaborations/ articles at Mindmatters and Evolution News are fantastic. :)Truthfreedom
April 17, 2020
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@JVL
Seriously though: why bring up hideous and awful topics which we all agree on?
Justify (not assert) why incest and necrophilia are 'hideous' and 'awful'. Was not everything part of the 'cultural context and relative'? What you find 'awful', other people might find it 'fantastic'. Hitler found 'fantastic' killing millions of jews. So good that he labelled it 'the final solution'. And Stalin killing millions of his citizens. And Pol Pot. And Mao... Nothing 'hideous' for them.Truthfreedom
April 17, 2020
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@JVL
Why is it that the theists are the most dogmatic and least able to compromise.
A stupid assertion with no proof. Typical, you commit all the logical fallacies available. And who are you to dictate what is Denyse's role? And to dictate what we should agree on or not? Heil JVL!Truthfreedom
April 17, 2020
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@JVL According to you, having sex with your relatives and dead people is ok. You can not offer any logical explanation as to why it is not. Following your mantra, as long as it 'consensual and between adults', it is fine. With your siblings too I suppose. 'Consensual and between adults'. Silly logic to support homosexuality leads to silly outcomes. Speaking of silly, you are a grown-up who admits darwinism is a stupid fairy-tale but you like ridiculous fairy-tales, so who cares. Ah. And according to you, killing your children 'enhances your reproductive success' is a 'scientific' explanation. A woman with 0 children who gets pregnant and kills her child is 'improving' her reproductive success! Now se has 0 children! Very succesful! :) Now cry while you eat your birdseed. And do not fart too much, please. Your attempts at logic are enough.Truthfreedom
April 17, 2020
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JVL @ 99, >Why is it that the theists are the most dogmatic and least able to compromise?...It might even work except they can’t even agree amongst themselves over certain issues. I think it's because we have an absolute standard coming from a higher being to concern ourselves with. The problems begin when we presume to know too much, and get dogmatic about it. That is unfortunate, but hard to avoid, especially when we believe in- and care about truth.EDTA
April 17, 2020
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Bornagain77: . it is not News job to keep you personally informed on Covid related news. She is retired from journalism and donates her time and talents to UD. I, for one, appreciate her time and talent very much. Fair point, I apologise.JVL
April 17, 2020
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JVL. it is not News job to keep you personally informed on Covid related news. She is retired from journalism and donates her time and talents to UD. I, for one, appreciate her time and talent very much. If you are dissatisfied with News. I suggest you find another site to visit.bornagain77
April 17, 2020
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The military is seeing a large increase in service members infected with coronavirus. 403 new troops were diagnosed with COVID-19 in one day. A majority of those cases came from the Army. That brings the total of infected service members to just under 3,000. On top of that, 817 military civilians, 653 dependents and 336 contractors have gotten the disease. The grand total of Defense Department related cases is about 4,700. To date there have been 19 fatalities.rhampton7
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Burgers’ Smokehouse of California, MO now has six employees who have tested positive for COVID-19. According to a news release, Burgers’ Smokehouse is closed until Monday, April 20. Heather said a large portion of the town works at the meat plant. If the shutdown were to continue past April 20, she said the town would take a big hit. “We take our responsibility as part of the nation’s critical infrastructure seriously and will make every prudent effort to remain in operation during this ongoing crisis,” Burger said. “However, we feel it is important to shut down for a few days in order to further prepare our facility for the safe return of our people on Monday.”rhampton7
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The United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW) Local 663 announced that there were 19 cases of the coronavirus at the JBS USA pork plant in Worthington, MN and it is calling on JBS to "slow production speeds to allow for more social distancing on the line to keep workers safe." At a media briefing on Wednesday, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said that he wants to test every worker at the state's food processing plants for the coronavirus as soon as possible, given how crucial they are for the food supply.rhampton7
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Rhampton7: Cheers for doing what News/O'Leary should be doing: keeping us informed.JVL
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Four employees of a Tyson Foods poultry plant in Georgia have died after becoming infected with the coronavirus, the company has confirmed. A spokesperson for the food giant said Friday that three of the employees worked inside the chicken processing plant in the town of Camilla, while the fourth person was employed in a supporting role on the same site. Tyson Foods did say how many workers there have tested positive for COVID-19, and the plant currently remains open.rhampton7
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Ed George: I have read most of TF’s comments and I can’t distinguish them from a person talking to themselves in a mirror. I wonder if he's filming himself responding, dreaming of intellectual victories! Seriously though: why bring up hideous and awful topics which we all agree on? What's the point? Does he really want to argue about why we agree? Why not take such things as given and let us work towards solving problems instead of driving more and more wedges between us? Why is it that the theists are the most dogmatic and least able to compromise? Is that why they see us the same way? That's the way they view the world: it's all black and white, you're with us or against us. It might even work except they can't even agree amongst themselves over certain issues.JVL
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BAE Systems has temporarily shut down part of its operations due to a coronavirus outbreak, a company spokesperson confirmed Friday afternoon. At least five employees of the West Manchester Township, PA plant tested positive for COVID-19, according to BAE spokesperson Alicia Gray. All five employees who tested positive worked in the same area. Gray could not confirm if any of the employees were hospitalized. The York County facility manufactures a mix of combat and amphibious vehicles for the U.S. military.rhampton7
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Metro Health officials confirmed at least 90 COVID-19 cases at the Tyson Foods plant in Goodlettsville are continuing to monitor and investigate a cluster. A Tyson representative refused to share specifics about any employee's health. The company claimed they notify anyone who has been in close contact with the infected person and asks them to go home and self-quarantine. Tyson said they are restricting access to their facilities and implementing temperature checks of team members before they walk through the door. In some cases, they claim to be slowing production lines to practice social distancing.rhampton7
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JVL
Gotta love someone who asks for answers and then doesn’t believe them. Why don’t they just talk to themselves in a mirror?
I have read most of TF's comments and I can't distinguish them from a person talking to themselves in a mirror.Ed George
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Truthfreedom: ??????? Nice you didn't answer any of the questions posed to you. Nicely done! I must learn that trick. So according to you people can not find homosexuality weird because ‘it exists in nature’ and ‘consensual sex between adults is ok’. Why do you find it so objectionable? Is it hurting you in some way? Can you show me with some dolls how it hurts you? Why not consensual sex between adults who are blood related then? Incest exists in ‘nature’. And people can consent to it. If you choose to have sex with your father I promise not to tell anyone. Really. Now enter: appeal to the law (a logical fallacy) and ‘I do not like it’ (non-argument). What are your arguments then? Somehow you keep not saying. Curious. Maybe you don't have any objections . . . that makes sense based on your responses. Ah, and according to you, sex with dead people is not immoral, I never said did i? You're just making stuff up now. Anyway, don't let me distract you from your obsession. it’s just anti-hygienic. How cute. What if I told you I wear protective garments? Fine then? If you choose to do so I promise not to tell. Unless you take pictures. Have you taken pictures then? Naughty boy!! So you are admitting that darwinism is a fairy-tale and that you know it and have no problem believing non-sense. hahahahahahahahahahahahah You're not much of a psychic but you might have a career as a comedian. You said you would not take them. You are lying again. Gotta love someone who asks for answers and then doesn't believe them. Why don't they just talk to themselves in a mirror?JVL
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JVL
At the moment, where I live, the therapies being disputed are not available so it’s not something I would have to decide upon.
You said you would not take them. You are lying again.Truthfreedom
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@ JVL
Oh well, I guess I’ll just have to learn to live with that.
So you are admitting that darwinism is a fairy-tale and that you know it and have no problem believing non-sense.Truthfreedom
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@JVL
I've got as much right as you do I suppose. How do you judge?
So according to you people can not find homosexuality weird because 'it exists in nature' and 'consensual sex between adults is ok'. Why not consensual sex between adults who are blood related then? Incest exists in 'nature'. And people can consent to it. Now enter: appeal to the law (a logical fallacy) and 'I do not like it' (non-argument). Ah, and according to you, sex with dead people is not immoral, it's just anti-hygienic. How cute. What if I told you I wear protective garments? Fine then?Truthfreedom
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Ed George: TruthFreedom seems to have a hard-on for me. I don’t remember what he said yesterday yet he remembers what I said in January. Just be careful late at night if you're out walking the dog. And try not to be dead since we know Truthfreedom is really interested in necrophilia. Seriously, he brings it up a lot when no one else has mentioned it. I would never use it as a discussion point but he does, a lot.JVL
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JVL
You seem upset, do you want to talk about it? When you’ve finished trawling through the whole thread looking for possible contradictions between two different people that is (and Ed didn’t endorse a point of view, he just noted it). Don’t let me interrupt you.
Joe Gallien, ET, TruthFreedom seems to have a hard-on for me. I don't remember what he said yesterday yet he remembers what I said in January.Ed George
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The U.S. government has grown worried that millions of doses of hydroxychloroquine donated to the U.S. by Bayer for emergency use may have been produced at facilities that didn't meet the FDA's quality standards, sources told Reuters. After a 2015 inspection of Bayer's own Karachi plant, Pakistani regulators cited the facility for "gross failure" in its manufacturing processes for the drug, Reuters said. Another Resochin plant in India, run by Ipca Laboratories, has not been evaluated by the FDA, but the drugmaker has run afoul of the agency in inspections of other Indian plants that turn out chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine and their active ingredients. In late March, the FDA said it would lift a five-year ban on products from Ipca's Indian plants so the drugmaker could ship hydroxychloroquine sulphate and chloroquine phosphate APls along with hydroxychloroquine sulphate tablets to the U.S. That 2015 ban covered products from three Ipca manufacturing facilities because of rampant data manipulation. The FDA also cited a “cascade of failure” at one of the three plants, in Silvassa, India.rhampton7
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@Ed CA did have cases before FL. But when national cases hit 14k CA locked down. FL waited til 275k cases and spring breakers had spread back all over the country to close.Jim Thibodeau
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