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PZ Myers sneaks into press teleconference … !

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I was in a press conference this afternoon for the Expelled documentary (about scientists who are persecuted for questioning Darwinism and other materialist evolution theories). Ben Stein, the film’s lead, producer Mark Mathis, and others were there.

Mathis confirmed that he kicked PZ Myers out of the film to make a point (Myers endorses the destruction of the careers of those who question Darwinism, yet he was really upset about getting booted from a film).

And … Myers apparently somehow got into the press conference itself! – “under false pretences” according to the moderator. He was told to be quiet, and he rung off (to the best of my knowledge). He told the media to phone HIM instead. Greg, at Hollywood Jesus live blogged the affair and is promising updates.

For more, go here.

Pretty clever operator, the man who said,

The only appropriate response should involve some form of righteous fury, much butt-kicking, and the public firing of some teachers, many school board members, and vast numbers of sleazy, far-right politicians … I say, screw the polite words and careful rhetoric. It’s time for scientists to break out the steel-toed boots and brass knuckles, and get out there and hammer on the lunatics and idiots.

Strangely, while he was in the telemeeting, Myers insisted that Darwinism had nothing to do with Nazi Germany. Of course, historically, Darwin was an enormous influence on the Nazis because his Descent of Man appeared to put racism on a scientific footing. That does not mean (and the Expelled guys made clear that they did not think it means) that today’s Darwinists have anything to do with Nazism. But it is a historical fact that Darwin was one of the Nazis’ heroes, as historian Richard Weikart painstakingly shows.

Note: I update the Expelled story at this page, to keep it all in one place. So if you are interested in my coverage, it is all there by date.

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Here is an audio of the fiasco: http://www.skepchick.org/pzexpelled.mp3 PZ's laugh toward the beginning has a ring of dementia to it, IMHO...lol I found it at: http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=1190FtK
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Aesahaettr @ 15: But as far as the conference call is concerned, if PZ were as unstable as you make him out to be, I hardly think he’d have refrained from interrupting for as long as he did. But then he did, with premeditation, dial-in on the interactive conf call number, so no he didn't restrain himself at all. He wanted, from the onset, the opportunity to interrupt, and it would seem he acted out rather quickly. Irrefutably he misrepresented himself to the conf call moderator as a "media partner". It is reasonable to question the mental stability of an educated professional who repeatedly violates norms of professional and social conduct, misrepresents himself, and espouses physical, financial and character harm against those of opposing scientific viewpoints, without remorse, apology, or regard for the consequences. He appears to be stalking now, and his behavior seems willfully negligent.Charles
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Ben Stein has been quoted repeatedly as saying that his basic premise forthis film is "No Darwin, no Hitler." Besides being a particularly egregious example of Godwin's Law, this assertion ignores simple empirical fact. Consider that Darwin's theory was most readily and completely adopted by scientists in England, followed by the United States, Russia, and Germany. If Stein's assertion is valid, then Naziism of the kind promulgated by Hitler should have arisen in all of those countries, most notably in England. But it didn't. This canard is of the same quality as the Benjamin Wiker's "big lie" that "Darwinism" is to blame for virtually all of modern society's ills. Yes, and that explains why the prisons are stuffed with evolutionary biologists, whereas the prison population of Christians, Muslims, and other believers in a faith that is usually characterized on this blog as directly contradicting evolutionary biology are nowhere to be found in the overflowing prisons of America.Allen_MacNeill
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PS, perhaps you'd care to share some of your suspicions? Maybe I could shed more light on them than a cursory glance at a fraction of my writing. But then again, this may not be the best place for that. I don't want to get off topic.Aesahaettr
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No, DD, I call this being amused: Expelled! But as far as the conference call is concerned, if PZ were as unstable as you make him out to be, I hardly think he'd have refrained from interrupting for as long as he did.Aesahaettr
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PS:Aesahaettr After glancing at your hate filled website. You have confirmed everything I have suspected about how the Darwinists (like PZ!) view people of faith.DeepDesign
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# 10 "Myers apparently somehow got into the press conference itself!" "under false pretences" according to the moderator. He was told to be quiet, and he rung off (to the best of my knowledge). He told the media to phone HIM instead." - POST DARWINIST You call this being amused. It sounds to me like PZ was hysterical.DeepDesign
March 28, 2008
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Myers endorses the destruction of the careers of those who question Darwinism, yet he was really upset about getting booted from a film
Why do you keep repeating this lie? It's quite evident that PZ was NOT upset about being thrown out of the screening. He clearly found the whole affair amusing, more than anything.Aesahaettr
March 28, 2008
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I guess you could say he's more to be pittied than scorned. Sadly though, he is trying to ruin everything for us. Also, when they act like this, it just reinforces to me just how lacking the evidence is for their theory.DeepDesign
March 28, 2008
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"So just don’t be suprised by what they might say or do, the Darwinists." Not much of what they say or do suprises me anymore. But, I must say that this latest antic of PZ's is a bit odd. Here he tried to tell everyone that he didn't gatecrash the movie, and then he turns around and pulls a stunt like this? The guy has issues. It kind of makes you wonder what they think of him at the University of MN.FtK
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I just do not get why Dawkins was interviewed after a showing, and yet the kicked PZ out of the same thing. I would be mad alsogore
March 28, 2008
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FtK, like I said. It's gonna get nasty. Obviously Darwinists are going to do and say alot of things about Expelled to try and drive the film into the ground. I don't know if you were paying attention to the conversation between Dave Scott and I, but apparently the fossil record does not support the Darwinism. Once the American public becomes aware of this (this is why they don't want ID taught in schools), there power and prestige go bye bye. So just don't be suprised by what they might say or do, the Darwinists. There going to go after the ID community like the dirtiest political campaign you can imagine.DeepDesign
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This does not reflect well on the state of PZ Myer's mental health.DeepDesign
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"Darwinism had nothing to do with Nazi Germany" No, that "superior" arian race thing had nothing to do with darwinism, nothing at all.bFast
March 28, 2008
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So, are we going to see any PZ apologists talking about how the guy didn't interrupt the proceedings, but there were no posted rules about being quiet when other people are speaking and following the moderator's rules? ;)nullasalus
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Strangely, while he was in the telemeeting, Myers insisted that Darwinism had nothing to do with Nazi Germany HE READS THIS BLOG!!! Hiya PZ.tribune7
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I think the man has truly lost it. I guess it was to be expected that many in the scientific community would go off the deep end over this flick. Just pray he doesn't actually use his steel-toed boots and brass knuckles on us.....FtK
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