RetroVirus Turned Hero: “We Once Thought it Was Junk”

_{Cornelius Hunter

January 27, 2013

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You won’t believe this one. According to evolutionists, millions of years ago a retrovirus infected our ancestors’ genome causing disease, but then through the usual random events, which is to say the usual unknown events, it somehow turned hero and now appears to be highly active and playing a crucial role in stem cells. As one evolutionist admits: Read more

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It's like junk that you move around while cleaning house but never toss in the trash.Mung_{January 27, 2013
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According to Laurence Moran, "It's a special kind of junk" (http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2012/09/endogenous-retroviruses-and-junk-dna.html) Seriously? Either it is junk (which is defined as something of no use to anyone), or it is functional and serves a purpose.Barb_{January 27, 2013
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OT: Ignorance Isn't Bliss: What Every College Student Should Know About Religion - Mary Poplin at Reed - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gUogbTKbVgbornagain77_{January 27, 2013
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...but then through the usual random events, which is to say the usual unknown events...
But if it's random [for the uninitiated: read unguided] we can absolve G-d of any causal role. Right Gregory?Mung_{January 27, 2013
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More 'In speculation I place my hope and dedication ' from Darwinists!JoeMorreale1187_{January 27, 2013
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Here are some more (inconsistencies) of ERVs that don't fit into the naturalistic evolutionary assumption of common descent: PTERV1 in chimpanzee, African great apes and old World monkeys but not in humans and asian apes (orangutan, siamang, and gibbon). http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050328174826.htm The Human Lineage Was Somehow “Purged” - Cornelius Hunter - April 2012 Excerpt: Another such feature is the lack of endemic infectious retroviruses in humans. The problem is that these viruses are present in the other primates, and so according to evolutionists these viruses must be present in their common ancestor which, again according to evolution, would be an ancestor of humans as well.,, In other words, when evolution spontaneously created humans our DNA must have been “purged.” We got a do-over! Hilarious. http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2012/04/unbelievableevolution-in-complete-free.html More Counterpoints on ERVs - JonathanM - May 2011 Excerpt: 'In the absence of a feasible naturalistic mechanism to account for how evolution from a common ancestor could have occurred, how can we be so sure that it did occur? In such a case, one ought to reasonably expect there to be some quite spectacular evidence for common ancestry. Unfortunately for Darwinists, however, the evidence for common ancestry is paper thin on the ground.' http://www.evolutionnews.org/2011/05/more_points_on_ervs046761.html Excellent article for addressing the ERV argument for human evolution. http://evolutiondismantled.com/ervs Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) http://www.detectingdesign.com/pseudogenes.html#Endogenous Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVS) A Case for Common Descent or A Case for Incorrect Presupposition? http://www.whoisyourcreator.com/endogenous_retroviruses.html Evolution or Creation - WHAT'S ERVs GOT TO DO WITH IT? - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zK81Zti9BMbornagain77_{January 27, 2013
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Dr. Sternberg used much the same line of evidence to refute the "ERV's are junk" mantra of Darwinists a few years ago: Refutation Of Endogenous Retrovirus - ERVs - Richard Sternberg, PhD Evolutionary Biology - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4094119 Sternberg, R. v. & J. A. Shapiro (2005). How repeated retroelements format genome function. Cytogenet. Genome Res. 110: 108-116. Endogenous retroviruses regulate periimplantation placental growth and differentiation - 2006 http://www.pnas.org/content/103/39/14390.abstract. Also of note: Transposable Elements Reveal a Stem Cell Specific Class of Long Noncoding RNAs - (Nov. 26, 2012) Excerpt: The study published by Rinn and Kelley finds a striking affinity for a class of hopping genes known as endogenous retroviruses, or ERVs, to land in lincRNAs. The study finds that ERVs are not only enriched in lincRNAs, but also often sit at the start of the gene in an orientation to promote transcription. Perhaps more intriguingly, lincRNAs containing an ERV family known as HERVH correlated with expression in stem cells relative to dozens of other tested tissues and cells. According to Rinn, "This strongly suggests that ERV transposition in the genome may have given rise to stem cell-specific lincRNAs. The observation that HERVHs landed at the start of dozens of lincRNAs was almost chilling; that this appears to impart a stem cell-specific expression pattern was simply stunning!" http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121125192838.htm Darwinists have also held that ERV's are proof of common ancestry, yet,, Retroviruses and Common Descent: And Why I Don’t Buy It - September 2011 Excerpt: If it is the case, as has been suggested by some, that these HERVs are an integral part of the functional genome, then one might expect to discover species-specific commonality and discontinuity. And this is indeed the case. https://uncommondescent.com/evolution/retroviruses-and-common-descent-and-why-i-dont-buy-it/bornagain77_{January 27, 2013
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Dr. Sternberg used much the same line of evidence to refute the "ERV's are junk" mantra of Darwinists a few years ago: Refutation Of Endogenous Retrovirus - ERVs - Richard Sternberg, PhD Evolutionary Biology - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4094119 Sternberg, R. v. & J. A. Shapiro (2005). How repeated retroelements format genome function. Cytogenet. Genome Res. 110: 108-116. Endogenous retroviruses regulate periimplantation placental growth and differentiation - 2006 http://www.pnas.org/content/103/39/14390.abstract. Also of note: Transposable Elements Reveal a Stem Cell Specific Class of Long Noncoding RNAs - (Nov. 26, 2012) Excerpt: The study published by Rinn and Kelley finds a striking affinity for a class of hopping genes known as endogenous retroviruses, or ERVs, to land in lincRNAs. The study finds that ERVs are not only enriched in lincRNAs, but also often sit at the start of the gene in an orientation to promote transcription. Perhaps more intriguingly, lincRNAs containing an ERV family known as HERVH correlated with expression in stem cells relative to dozens of other tested tissues and cells. According to Rinn, "This strongly suggests that ERV transposition in the genome may have given rise to stem cell-specific lincRNAs. The observation that HERVHs landed at the start of dozens of lincRNAs was almost chilling; that this appears to impart a stem cell-specific expression pattern was simply stunning!" http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121125192838.htm Darwinists have also held that ERV's are proof of common ancestry, yet,, Retroviruses and Common Descent: And Why I Don’t Buy It - September 2011 Excerpt: If it is the case, as has been suggested by some, that these HERVs are an integral part of the functional genome, then one might expect to discover species-specific commonality and discontinuity. And this is indeed the case. https://uncommondescent.com/evolution/retroviruses-and-common-descent-and-why-i-dont-buy-it/ Some (inconsistencies) ERVs that don't fit into the naturalistic evolutionary assumption of common descent: PTERV1 in chimpanzee, African great apes and old World monkeys but not in humans and asian apes (orangutan, siamang, and gibbon). http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050328174826.htm The Human Lineage Was Somehow “Purged” - Cornelius Hunter - April 2012 Excerpt: Another such feature is the lack of endemic infectious retroviruses in humans. The problem is that these viruses are present in the other primates, and so according to evolutionists these viruses must be present in their common ancestor which, again according to evolution, would be an ancestor of humans as well.,, In other words, when evolution spontaneously created humans our DNA must have been “purged.” We got a do-over! Hilarious. http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2012/04/unbelievableevolution-in-complete-free.html More Counterpoints on ERVs - JonathanM - May 2011 Excerpt: 'In the absence of a feasible naturalistic mechanism to account for how evolution from a common ancestor could have occurred, how can we be so sure that it did occur? In such a case, one ought to reasonably expect there to be some quite spectacular evidence for common ancestry. Unfortunately for Darwinists, however, the evidence for common ancestry is paper thin on the ground.' http://www.evolutionnews.org/2011/05/more_points_on_ervs046761.html Excellent article for addressing the ERV argument for human evolution. http://evolutiondismantled.com/ervs Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) http://www.detectingdesign.com/pseudogenes.html#Endogenous Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVS) A Case for Common Descent or A Case for Incorrect Presupposition? http://www.whoisyourcreator.com/endogenous_retroviruses.html Evolution or Creation - WHAT'S ERVs GOT TO DO WITH IT? - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zK81Zti9BMbornagain77_{January 27, 2013
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