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Revealing things scientists told media about our “simulated” universe

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As in “we are living in an advanced space aliens’ simulation.” But why were media even asking for this kind of thing?

Who, or what, is the godlike entity that may have created a simulated universe? One possibility, supporters of the simulation hypothesis say, is that it’s a race of advanced beings — space aliens. Even more mind-bending is the possibility is that it’s our own descendants — “our future selves,” as Terrile puts it. That is, humans living hundreds or thousands of years in the future might develop the ability to simulate not only a world like ours but the bodies and minds of the beings within it.

“Just as you can simulate anything else, you can simulate brains,” Bostrom says. True, we don’t yet have the technology to pull it off, but he says there’s no conceptual barrier to it. And once we create brain simulations “sufficiently detailed and accurate,” he says, “it is possible that those simulations would generate conscious experiences.”

Dan Falk, “Are we living in a simulated universe? Here’s what scientists say.” at NBC News

Wait a minute? Doesn’t this remind us all of the “mirror universe” that walloped through recently, with no real evidence? It’s as if the media do not want to cover real science events.

Falk is careful to say, above, that experiments to test the idea have been proposed. Maybe we should say nothing about the matter until they have been done and the results announced.

A reader draws attention to this item in the article:

Harvard astronomer Abraham Loeb says the knowledge could even trigger social unrest. Knowing that our thoughts and deeds aren’t our own could “relieve us from being accountable for our actions,” he says. “There is nothing more damaging to our social order than this notion.”

Dan Falk, “Are we living in a simulated universe? Here’s what scientists say.” at NBC News

But, holy cow, wasn’t he the fellow who led everyone on a wild goose chase about the space cigarillo Oumuamua being an “extraterrestrial light sail”?

It’s clear that these people are running out of naturalist options if we are down this deep into the nuts.

See also: Mirror universe: Now they market science fiction as news This appears in a tech and science section of a major network: Could 2019 be the year humans open the first portal to a shadowy dimension which mirrors our own world?

Tales of Oumuamua: Why are we still talking about the Oumuamua alien sighting panic? Oumuamua alien sighting panic?

What? Oumuamua Was Just A Comet? After All The ET Hype?

Astronomer: We’re too dumb to think space object Oumuamua was an extraterrestrial lightsail.Hmmm. In the real world, when you are an only child so far as you know, it is hard to compare yourself to your siblings. Few readily accept criticism for failure to measure up to the standards of imaginary beings.

Conventional Non-ET Explanations For Oumuamua

Astronomers: Solar System Object In Transit, Oumuamua, Might Be A “Light Sail Of Extra-Terrestrial Origin”

Why Some Scientists Saw Asteroid Oumuamua As ET

Why can top scientists get away with extraordinary claims?

Did Interstellar Object Oumuamua Normalize Space Aliens As Science In 2018?

and

Astronomers: Solar system object in transit, Oumuamua, might be a “light sail of extra-terrestrial origin”

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5 Replies to “Revealing things scientists told media about our “simulated” universe

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    vmahuna says:

    OK, so let’s assume that we (me, you, my grand-daughter, my son’s dog?) are actually LIVING in a simulation of a universe that does not exist and has never existed.
    When I broke my ankle, did I “really” break it? Or did Someone just change the setting on one of my pain dials? (That is, is everything just digital? Or is this more like breeding live rats so you can run the adult rats through a rat maze?)
    But more specifically, it’s not a major deviation from any number of religious beliefs to accept that The Creator is in fact running every piece of The Universe that we can experience as “the here and now”. But then would it not also make sense that when we die in the Simulation we, or at least our Spirit, migrates to “The Here After”?
    Most religions I’ve ever heard of accept the idea that The Creator, and perhaps even his angelic assistants, can cause “miraculous” (illogical, not consistent with known science…) events. So how is this different from saying that some Programmer/Analyst can tap a couple keys and let me survive an airplane crash without a single scratch or let my son’s dog (who spends more time with ME) talk to me in English?
    So for me, the question comes down to, in the Simulation, when I finally get eaten by monsters on Level 9, does my ghost get to go to a place where I get to see The Master Programmer and talk with Him-Her-It for the rest of Eternity? That’s pretty close to what the Celts believe about God and immortal souls: there is ONLY Heaven, and what you did before you arrived in Heaven is just stuff to talk about over a couple more beers.
    Or is Someone simulating the Programmers, multi-layered abstraction-wise?

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    EDTA says:

    One of the problems with a simulated universe is that the simulators might themselves be simulated at a higher level still. But at some top level, one universe has to be “real”.

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    Eugene says:

    Well, as of today we still have no idea if anything really “exists” in a material sense of way. As one digs down to quantum mechanics, the only entities which “exist” are the mathematical rules and equations combined with a random number generator. And then on top of it there is consciousness, which again we have no idea what that is. We know that the set of mathematical rules guiding this universe is rather intricate and purposeful towards enabling the machinery of life… To me it all looks rather suspicious, making for a very good possibility that our world is indeed someone else’s engineering creation. Now, whether it is a pure computer-like simulation or some kind of an physical reality-based concept, it does not really matter. What matter is if there is someone “out there” with the ability to control the random number generator at the heart of QM. That entity would then be in complete control of all the events in our world, no matter how improbable.

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    Silver Asiatic says:

    Harvard astronomer Abraham Loeb says the knowledge could even trigger social unrest. Knowing that our thoughts and deeds aren’t our own could “relieve us from being accountable for our actions,” he says. “There is nothing more damaging to our social order than this notion.”

    Strange thing to say.

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    EDTA says:

    SA,

    There was some talk here earlier this year about research showing that people behave better when they believe they have free will. Here’s one of the links, from (ostensibly) a materialist: https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/free-will-and-morality/

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