Uncommon Descent Serving The Intelligent Design Community

Scientists should unite against threat from religion

Share
Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn
Flipboard
Print
Email

Just when you thought things couldn’t get any sillier, now Sam Harris, author of “Letter to a Christian Nation” publishes a letter in Nature calling all good scientists to oppose religion at every turn. Unfortunately for Sam, the letter is frought with inaccuracies and mischaracterizations that would make PiZza Myers proud. He even goes so far as to scold Nature for not taking a hard enough line against this pernicious evil.

Nature 448, 864 (23 August 2007) | doi:10.1038/448864a;  Published online 22
August 2007

Scientists should unite against threat from religion

Sam Harris1
     1      Address withheld by request http://www.samharris.org

Sir

It was genuinely alarming to encounter Ziauddin Sardar’s whitewash of Islam
in the pages of your journal (‘Beyond the troubled relationship’ Nature 448,
131-133; 2007). Here, as elsewhere, Nature’s coverage of religion has been
unfailingly tactful – to the point of obscurantism.

In his Commentary, Sardar seems to accept, at face value, the claim that
Islam constitutes an “intrinsically rational world view”. Perhaps there are
occasions where public intellectuals must proclaim the teachings of Islam to
be perfectly in harmony with scientific naturalism. But let us not do so,
just yet, in the world’s foremost scientific journal.

Under the basic teachings of Islam, the Koran cannot be challenged or
contradicted, being the perfect word of the creator of the Universe. To
speak of the compatibility of science and Islam in 2007 is rather like
speaking of the compatibility of science and Christianity in the year 1633,
just as Galileo was being forced, under threat of death, to recant his
understanding of the Earth’s motion.

An Editorial announcing the publication of Francis Collins’s book, The
Language of God (‘Building bridges’ Nature 442, 110; doi:10.1038/442110a
2006) represents another instance of high-minded squeamishness in addressing
the incompatibility of faith and reason. Nature praises Collins, a devout
Christian, for engaging “with people of faith to explore how science – both
in its mode of thought and its results – is consistent with their religious
beliefs”.

But here is Collins on how he, as a scientist, finally became convinced of
the divinity of Jesus Christ: “On a beautiful fall day, as I was hiking in
the Cascade Mountains… the majesty and beauty of God’s creation
overwhelmed my resistance. As I rounded a corner and saw a beautiful and
unexpected frozen waterfall, hundreds of feet high, I knew the search was
over. The next morning, I knelt in the dewy grass as the sun rose and
surrendered to Jesus Christ.”

What does the “mode of thought” displayed by Collins have in common with
science? The Language of God should have sparked gasping outrage from the
editors at Nature. Instead, they deemed Collins’s efforts “moving” and
“laudable”, commending him for building a “bridge across the social and
intellectual divide that exists between most of US academia and the
so-called heartlands.”

At a time when Muslim doctors and engineers stand accused of attempting
atrocities in the expectation of supernatural reward, when the Catholic
Church still preaches the sinfulness of condom use in villages devastated by
AIDS, when the president of the United States repeatedly vetoes the most
promising medical research for religious reasons, much depends on the
scientific community presenting a united front against the forces of
unreason.

There are bridges and there are gangplanks, and it is the business of
journals such as Nature to know the difference.

Comments
I don't think that being a friend of science requires one to promote condom use. The same love of intelligent design in nature should also foster a love of the natural moral law. That means that the emphasis should be on chastity and not condom use. No one ever acquired AIDs by following the Church's teaching. Here in America, secularists say "well, they are goin to do it anyway, so let's just give up and pass out the condoms." That same principle is in danger of being applied abroad. Anyone or any group can benefit from sound moral training.StephenB
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
09:35 AM
9
09
35
AM
PDT
I wasn't aware that AIDS was ravaging the Catholic Church for lack of condom use. So I guess what is happening is that AIDS is spread in Africa by Catholics who ignore the Church's teaching on fornication but listen when it comes to condoms? "The bad news is I am committing fornication but the good news is I am not using birh control."Jehu
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
08:48 AM
8
08
48
AM
PDT
Michael Shermer thinks Harris is irrational. Oh, the irony!! "It is irrational to take a hostile or condescending attitude toward religion because by doing so we [atheists] virtually guarantee that religious people will respond in kind."Lurker
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
08:48 AM
8
08
48
AM
PDT
Tribune7 is perfectly right. The Catholic Church condemns all forms of artificial contraception, including condoms. The only form of contraception allowed is the "Ogino-Knaus" form, which, for reasons which I don't really understand, is considered "natural". The most serious consequences are that many catholics have to meet deep inner contradictions when the prohibition of condoms is in conflict with other moral problems, like the risk of transmitting HIV, for instance.gpuccio
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
08:33 AM
8
08
33
AM
PDT
Thanks tribune, I wasn't aware that the ban was total.Atom
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
08:22 AM
8
08
22
AM
PDT
I may be wrong, but is Harris correct in saying the Catholic Church opposes condom use? The Catholic Church condemns all forms of artificial contraception, including condoms.tribune7
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
08:19 AM
8
08
19
AM
PDT
Catholics out there, I may be wrong, but is Harris correct in saying the Catholic Church opposes condom use? I thought the Church only opposed methods of contraception that killed the embryo, but was perfectly fine with barrier methods. (This could be a misunderstanding on my part, since I have never been Catholic.) Thanks, AtomAtom
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
07:24 AM
7
07
24
AM
PDT
DLH, I think you may be interested in this TV special coming on Sat and Sun; http://www.coralridge.org/darwin/ This 60 minute special featuring Ann Coulter, author of Godless; Richard Weikart, author of From Darwin to Hitler, Lee Strobel, author of The Case for a Creator; Jonathan Wells, author of Icons of Evolution; Phillip Johnson, author of Darwin on Trial; Michael Behe, author of Darwin’s Black Box, and Ian Taylor, author of In the Minds of Men will show why evolution is a bad idea that should be discarded into the dustbin of history.bornagain77
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
06:31 AM
6
06
31
AM
PDT
Russ, you beat me too it w/regard to embryonic stem cell research. I don't think there is a jurisdiction in the U.S. where it is illegal. The debate is entirely about money. The embryonic stem cell researchers apparetnly cannot get private funding because private investors do not see their claims as promising and do not feel it is the worth the risk. So the researchers are now going to the public, building those who oppose it for ethical reasons into strawmen, and saying GIVE ME MONEY AND YOUR CHILD WILL WALK. All they need is a flashy suit and a pompadour. And, cynic that I am, I really believe that many of those researchers don't expect much in the way of results. But they (and a lot of politically connected people) are going to get nice paychecks and it will be hard to hold them accountable for the promises they make. We don't have the results yet BECAUSE YOU HAVEN"T GIVEN US ENOUGH MONEY!!! WE NEED MORE MONEY!!! DON'T YOU WANT YOUR CHILD TO WALK?????tribune7
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
06:24 AM
6
06
24
AM
PDT
Sam Harris presumes rational thought as primary truth and upholds Darwinian evolution with religious fervor. These assumptions led to Hitler’s Holocaust to advance the Aryan race by destroying those “less fit”. They are the basis of Communism’s great sword which killed some 135 million people in the 20th century to destroy religion and advance atheism in the name of the “People.” They are the foundation of the lucrative abortion industry’s silent slaughter of over 50 million in the US alone at the altar of profit and convenience. Such is Darwinian “morality” founded on random mutation and survival of the fittest. Harris raises a desperate cry against “religion” lest his own “morality” be exposed.DLH
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
06:23 AM
6
06
23
AM
PDT
Scientists should unite against threat from religion. Yeah thats right Sam Harris true "truth seeking scientists" should unite against the false religion and science of Darwinism!bornagain77
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
06:21 AM
6
06
21
AM
PDT
Like the other proponents of "reason", Harris assumes in his argument that reason was handed down from heaven on a plate. That's fine by me, but completely indefensible from his point of view. Where does this "reason" which needs to be defended with such drastic action come from? Why is it important? How can we know it's reliable? Science can't answer these questions - they are beyond its boundaries. In calling for science to exclude that which is beyond the boundaries of science in order to defend reason, Harris's letter is just one more atheist exercise in self-contradiction. David http://bcse-revealed.blogspot.comdavidanderson
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
06:11 AM
6
06
11
AM
PDT
As it is the case with atheists, they equivocate Islam with Christianity. He compares Muslim medical doctors engaging in terrorrist activities with Christians who oppose, for example, steem cell research, or the use of condoms. Poor Sam Harris..Mats
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
05:37 AM
5
05
37
AM
PDT
H'mm: What intrigues me is not that Mr Harris is so ill-informed -- cf here on Galileo for instance for a few balancing thoughts -- and hostile to/ contemptuous of ethics [cf the ongoing thread on CD's 1861 quote on ID! Note too how "religious" is now a dismissive smear word, and how philistine Mr Harris is about the experience of Wonder in the face of God's Creation]; but, that Nature apparently did not seriously fact-check or "peer review" the letter before publishing it. Would Nature be so generous with space and review policy to say a Behe or a Dembski? Worth a thought GEM of TKI PS: On Mr Harris' contempt-filled sneer on the Catholic Church, AIDS, condoms and villages, what was all that about the successful Abstinence and Fidelity-based Uganda ABc - I stress the lower case on the "c" deliberately - strategy again as Ted Green of Harvard reported it?kairosfocus
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
05:33 AM
5
05
33
AM
PDT
russ, Thank you, good point - I had forgotten about that part.nullasalus
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
03:57 AM
3
03
57
AM
PDT
I should have said payers of FEDERAL TAX. The states can do whatever they want to fund stem cell research.russ
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
03:30 AM
3
03
30
AM
PDT
Did Bush veto ‘the most promising medical research’ for religious reasons? I thought they were moral/ethical reasons - and isn’t it a common claim that atheists, too, can be as moral and ethical as those faith-heads and religionists?
Anyone can go out and do stem cell research tomorrow if they want. Bush didn't "veto" that. He just vetoed a bill requiring TAXPAYERS to do so. That's why taxpayers in the state of California are on the hook for billions in stem cell research, and its why stem cell researchers can still spend their own money on infant stem cell experimentation.russ
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
03:29 AM
3
03
29
AM
PDT
Did Bush veto 'the most promising medical research' for religious reasons? I thought they were moral/ethical reasons - and isn't it a common claim that atheists, too, can be as moral and ethical as those faith-heads and religionists? Sam Harris strikes me as someone who would be enraged at finding out some atheists (not to mention agnostics) can side with the religious on a host of moral, "religious" issues. Even an atheist can be against stem cell research. But this just shows me that the fight over religion is motivated less by actual questions of faith or lack thereof, and more about - what a surprise - politics and social aims. Still, I have to admit that it's fun to see Sam Harris writing. The guy seems almost superstitious in his fear of being polite to believers.nullasalus
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
02:32 AM
2
02
32
AM
PDT
It's another example of how the 'New Atheists' know precious little philosophy or even the history of science. Harris, Dawkins and co. believe that science should take the lead in public life in attacking religion. Yet other scientists, better versed in philosophy, have rejected this. For example, the pioneering German sociologist, Carl Weber, took seriously Leo Tolstoy's famous question, 'What should we do? How are we to live?' Addressing this issue, Weber concluded from his reading of Kant that science alone could not tell people how to live, as that had to come from the wider matrix of values and beliefs in broader society. In that respect, he felt that scientists should not mix themselves up with politics. To be sure, Weber was not apolitical. He was a founding member of the German Democratic Party, a centrist party which collaborated with the Socialists in German politics. However, he did not believe that scientists had to be political agitators, a la Marxism. As a statement of the failings of empirical science to address wider concerns, Weber's views still stand, as the criticisms of the logical empiricism of the Vienna Circle demonstrate, and the way contemporary secular Humanism has to incorporate values from literature and philosophy, and even the Bible(!) to make positive statements about morality and life. This to me clearly demonstrates that Harris is talking out of his hat.Beast Rabban
August 24, 2007
August
08
Aug
24
24
2007
12:35 AM
12
12
35
AM
PDT
1 2

Leave a Reply