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Steve Meyer on COAST TO COAST tonight


DNA & Intelligent Design

Date: 07-28-09
Host: George Noory
Guest: Stephen Meyer

George Noory Stephen Meyer

Stephen C. Meyer will discuss recent discoveries in cell biology which support intelligent design and reveal that digital computers and living cells are operating on the same principles.

SOURCE: www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/07/28

Shawnboy, "Meyer spanked him like an unruly child. No wonder Darwinists are so reluctant to debate I.D. proponents. They know they’ll lose….badly." After you posted this I watched it - hadn't seen it before. Thanks for posting it. The problem with Peter Ward's "debate" with Meyer, is he had only one argument - the mischaracterization of ID with religious dogma. He kept stating this and Meyer kept tearing it down more forcefully each time by presenting the scientific evidence. Ward was talking more dogma than Meyer was, and I noticed that while the audience was applauding mostly Ward at the beginning, Meyer was receiving most of the applause towards the end. They asked the audience if anyone had changed their mind - towards the end. Nobody answered either way, but the shift in applause showed clearly that Meyer had earned their trust more than Ward did. Meyer's insistance on discussing only the science and leaving the metaphysical questions up to philosophy and theology is quite effective. Plus, he is genuinely cordial and friendly with anybody he debates, and he apologizes if he says anything unintentionally offensive. Ward called his demeanor "smooth." I call it persuasive. BTW - I've made it to Chapter 6 in "Signature" so far. Great read. CannuckianYankee
Meyer's segment is up on YouTube. It's broken into four parts, a little under forty minutes in total (38:43 to be exact). I would post the links but I'm not sure how the copyright laws work. Anyways, Stephen Meyer seems to be a one-man Darwin wrecking machine. I watched his debate against Peter Ward and I actually felt bad for Ward. Meyer spanked him like an unruly child. No wonder Darwinists are so reluctant to debate I.D. proponents. They know they'll lose....badly. ShawnBoy
#13 PaulBurnett I listened to the last two hours and can say that it went very well. I don't recall any talk about panspermia, although there was one sort of angry atheist ID proponent who believed the designer was ET because he sounded like he has a grudge against God. Dr. Meyer took his call with great tact and even commented toward the end that Coast to Coast has one of the smartest audiences of any radio show, despite what some people here would like to believe. UrbanMysticDee
"Lock" (#12) wrote: "A fear a great deal of Coast to Coast listeners may just go for panspermia." So did anybody actually listen to Steve's talk? How did it go? PaulBurnett
I was once softly ridiculed by a man who understood me to be a christian based on the conversation he over-heard... I was not offended. So I asked him what he believed. I kid you not... he said he was waiting for the aliens to save us before we killed ourselves. I said, 'Well it already happenned 2 thousand years ago, but we hung Him on a cross.' Now mind you, the Bible is not exactly the typical alien story. For one thing God is not from within the universe (etc). But if you think about it, the popular alien stories are cheap compared to the gospel. The guy got the point and was visibly shaken by the simmilarity that had eluded him before. A fear a great deal of Coast to Coast listeners may just go for panspermia. So hard to break habitual intuition... Lock
ShawnBoy, Thank you, that made my morning. HouseStreetRoom
ShawnBoy, -------"I emailed them and asked if they’d do a story entitled “Pond Scum + 3.8 Billion Years = Albert Einstein?”. They said they wouldn’t. They only want people to think they’re cooky, not bat**** crazy." Hahahaha. Nice one. Clive Hayden
There is more evidence for UFOs then there is for universal common descent via an accumulation of genetic accidents. Joseph
Diffixial Other recent topics of Coast to Coast: Spirit Attachment UFOs & Nukes Madame Blavatsky & The Secret Doctrine Art Bell: Somewhere in Time Upright Bipedal Canine Creatures Atlantis, Cayce, & Artifacts
I emailed them and asked if they'd do a story entitled "Pond Scum + 3.8 Billion Years = Albert Einstein?". They said they wouldn't. They only want people to think they're cooky, not bat**** crazy. ShawnBoy
CY @ 2:
I’m sure you have a point in there somewhere Diffaxial?
Yes: CY @ 4:
most of the stuff on there is over the top. It’s an X-Files sorta thing.
yeah, most of the stuff on there is over the top. It's an X-Files sorta thing. But once in a while they have something serious. It's not often. CannuckianYankee
I'm surprised he'll be on Coast to Coast. C2C is known for being a sorta, how should I put it... a show for crazies. :) Which is why so many people love listening to it. But it doesn't seem like a great show to go on to be taken serious. dodgingcars
And others: Apollo & Space Missions Monday July 20, 2009 On the 40th anniversary of the moon landing, space historian Robert Zimmerman discussed the history and triumph of the Apollo space program & how the U.S. was able win the race to put a man on the moon. First hour guest, Tim Miller with... Host: George Noory Guest(s): Robert Zimmerman, Tim Miller Intelligence & Terrorism Sunday July 19, 2009 George Knapp was joined by investigative reporter Peter Lance for a discussion of how America's intelligence services have fumbled in the pursuit of terrorists. The FBI and and the U.S. Attorney's Office were more interested in bringing down the... Host: George Knapp Guest(s): Peter Lance Diet & Nutrition Saturday July 18, 2009 President of the Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine, Dr. Neal Barnard, M.D., shared some of the latest medical research on diet and nutrition, as well as discussed how certain foods trigger the release of natural opiates in the brain... Host: Ian Punnett Guest(s): Dr. Neal Barnard Cosmology & the Universe Thursday July 16, 2009 Professor of Science Writing at MIT and award winning author, Marcia Bartusiak discussed the birth of modern cosmology that came with Edwin Hubble's announcement in 1925 that our universe was far larger than previously believed, and filled with... Host: George Noory Guest(s): Marcia Bartusiak, Craig Nelson Anti-Gravity Technology Sunday June 21, 2009 George Knapp was joined by physicist and author Paul LaViolette, who discussed the physics behind anti-gravity propulsion technology. In the first hour, Col. John Alexander talked about the ongoing discord in Iran and the state of remote... Host: George Knapp Guest(s): Paul LaViolette, Col. John Alexander Probability & Randomness Saturday May 9, 2009 Physicist and author Leonard Mlodinow discussed his exploration into probability and randomness and showed how our lives are more shaped by chance than some may expect. Detailing his findings, he explained, "I'm not saying that the... Host: Ian Punnett Guest(s): Leonard Mlodinow, Tracy Twyman Truth About Columbine Saturday May 2, 2009 Author and investigative journalist Dave Cullen discussed the events that happened 10 years ago at Columbine High School, dispelling several of the prevailing myths and revealing what really happened on that tragic day. Host: Ian Punnett Guest(s): Dave Cullen Space News & Research Wednesday May 6, 2009 Appearing during the first three hours, historian and journalist Robert Zimmerman discussed space politics and history, including recent developments at NASA, space tourism, and the Hubble Space Telescope, "the telescope that will not... Host: George Noory Guest(s): Robert Zimmerman, Katherine Albrecht Physics, Space & Being Monday September 22, 2008 Appearing during the middle two hours,Nobel Prize winning physicist Prof. Frank Wilczek discussed theoretical physics, and the hidden structures of space and reality. The search is on for a unified theory that will connect the four known forces... Host: George Noory Guest(s): Frank Wilczek, Andre Eggelletion CERN Experiments, Science & Fusion Wednesday September 10, 2008 Appearing for the first three hours, NYU Professor and science writer Charles Seife discussed the implications of the CERN Large Hadron Collider (LHC) experiments, as well as his forthcoming book Sun in a Bottle about fusion energy. Completed at... Host: George Noory Guest(s): Charles Seife Number Crunching Saturday August 9, 2008 Yale Law and Business Professor Ian Ayres discussed his book Super Crunchers as well as all the ways data mining and number crunching are affecting our lives today. Private corporations have amassed petabytes* of data about individuals, Ayres... Host: Ian Punnett Guest(s): Ian Ayres, Galen Cook Alcohol-Based Fuels Thursday July 17, 2008 Ecological biologist David Blume discussed the importance and benefits of alcohol-based fuels, and how the petroleum industry has suppressed their development. Some of the earliest cars such as the Model T were flex fuel (running on either gas... Host: George Noory Guest(s): David Blume, Dr. Roger Leir, Fred Gutierrez The Hubble Telescope Wednesday June 18, 2008 Appearing during the first three hours, author Robert Zimmerman talked about his new book The Universe in a Mirror, which covers the history and discoveries of the Hubble Telescope. Astrophysicist Lyman Spitzer proposed the concept of a... Host: George Noory Guest(s): Robert Zimmerman Mysteries of Cosmology & Space Monday May 26, 2008 Theoretical physicist Dr. Richard Hammond discussed his new book The Unknown Universe, which explores mysterious aspects of cosmology and space. Cosmic acceleration, he explained, is the accepted concept that the universe is in a constant state... Host: George Noory Guest(s): Richard Hammond, Richard C. Hoagland I'm sure you have a point in there somewhere Diffaxial? CannuckianYankee
"Diffaxial" (#1) wrote: "Other recent topics of Coast to Coast: Spirit Attachment - hauntings UFOs & Nukes Madame Blavatsky Art Bell - demonic possession Upright Bipedal Canine Creatures Atlantis, Cayce, & Artifacts Somehow this does not sound like a forum for actual scientists discussing actual science. Are you sure this was a good idea? PaulBurnett
Other recent topics of Coast to Coast: Spirit Attachment Monday July 27, 2009 During the middle two hours, Kelly Kiernan Ray, an expert in hauntings, discussed the various ways that ghosts and entities can share our space and cause physical, mental and emotional problems as well as addictions... UFOs & Nukes Sunday July 26, 2009 Noted UFO researcher Robert Hastings discussed his investigation into a decades-long connection between UFOs and nuclear weapon activity. He was joined by former US serviceman Patrick McDonough, who shared his story of witnessing a stunning UFO... Madame Blavatsky & The Secret Doctrine Saturday July 25, 2009 Historian, author, and the librarian at the New York Lodge of the Theosophical Society, Michael Gomes (book link) discussed the life and works of Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, who paved the way for esoteric ideas on the origin and evolution of the... Art Bell: Somewhere in Time Saturday July 25, 2009 Art Bell: Somewhere in Time returned to November 21, 2002 for a conversation with Gordon Michael Scallion on demonic possession and the numerous exorcisms that he attended. Upright Bipedal Canine Creatures Thursday July 23, 2009 Author, artist and researcher of the strange, Linda Godfrey discussed her most recent work on true encounters with beast-men and upright-walking canine creatures. "I still get one to three a week," she said of the many reports of these... Atlantis, Cayce, & Artifacts Wednesday July 22, 2009 Expert on the American prophet Edgar Cayce, Greg Little discussed new discoveries in the search for Atlantis, mounds in ancient America, as well as findings in Egypt. First hour guest, Prof. Bart Kosko talked about efforts to create an... HT: That board that dare not speak its name. Diffaxial
Not that it matters much but I could never figure out how Coast-to-Coast AM can walk such a fine line between outright crackpottery and legitimate science. The eclectic mix of guests and subject matter is, shall I say, a little strange. Mapou

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