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Some arguments are not merely wrong; they are evil.

Eric Orts is a professor in the Legal Studies and Business Ethics Department at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.  He is a progressive, and like most progressives he chafes at the checks on the unbridled power of numerical majorities built into the United States Constitution.  On Wednesday Professor Orts took to the pages of The Atlantic to vent his spleen against the unfairness of one of those checks, the provision that gives each state equal representation in the Senate.  It is not fair, declares Orts, for Wyoming to have the same representation in Senate as California, because Wyoming’s population is a small fraction of California’s. 

Set aside for the moment the merits of Orts’ argument** and consider his proposed solution.  According to Orts, all that is necessary to fix this “problem” is for Congress to pass a statute providing for proportional representation in the Senate.  There is an obvious problem with Orts’ proposal.  Any such statute would conflict with Article I of the Constitution, which provides that that each state shall have two Senators, and Article V which states that the two-senator rule cannot be amended. 

No problem, says Orts. 

Article V applies only to amendments. Congress would adopt the Rule of One Hundred scheme as a statute; let’s call it the Senate Reform Act. Because it’s legislation rather than an amendment, Article V would—arguably—not apply.

Orts’ seems to believe Congress can “fix” the Constitution through legislation. That a professor of legal studies no less would make this argument is breathtaking. Moreover, his proposed solution skips over the fact that the Constitution explicitly states “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State.”  He has an answer to this too:

Constitutional originalists will surely argue that the Founders meant “equal suffrage” in Article V to mean one state, two senators, now and forever. But the Founders could never have imagined the immense expansion of the United States in terms of territory, population, and diversity of its citizens.

No, anyone who reads the document – not just constitutional originalists – knows without the slightest doubt that it provides unambiguously for one state, two senators.  Whether the founders could have imagined future events has no bearing on the meaning of the text.  There is no room for argument about what the text means.

Here is where we get into the evil part.  Orts is not calling for a constitutional amendment.  Nor is he calling for a creative interpretation of the existing text.  He argues that we should simply ignore the text because he and his friends don’t like it.  The rule of law is built upon a foundation of language.  Laws, after all, can be expressed in nothing else.  When professors call for us to ignore the express unambiguous text of the Constitution, they are calling for us to abandon the rule of law.  And that is evil.

Of course, we should not be surprised.  As a progressive in good standing Orts believes that power is the only thing that matters.  Justice Brennan once said that he only thing that matters in Constitutional law is the ability to count to five.  Brennan meant that when the actual text of the document the court is purporting to be interpret (i.e., the Constitution) interferes with achieving the result progressives such as he want, well then, so much the worse for the Constitution, provided he was able to cobble together five votes for the progressive policy choice. Brennan’s approach to constitutional law is profoundly cynical, dishonest, and, yes, evil.

Orts is a Brennan-type progressive.  He believes if he can get five members of the Supreme Court to bite on his “two does not really mean two” argument, he can achieve in the courts what he could never hope to achieve in the political process. 

But attempts to undermine the rule of law carry the seeds of their own destruction.  Sooner or later the people begin to trip to the fact that it is all a big put up job.  And when that happens you get civil war.  We are already in a cold civil war. With progressives like Orts continuing to call for the exercise of raw power outside of legitimate constitutional processes, how long before the war heats up?

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**The first clause of Article I, Section 3, which states:  “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State.”  Anyone who has studied the constitutional convention for ten seconds knows the origin of this clause.  The small states were afraid they would be overwhelmed and powerless if representation in the Congress were based strictly on population.  They went so far as to threaten to bolt if this issue were not addressed to their satisfaction.  After much debate during which the convention teetered on the edge of failure, a compromise (the so-called “Connecticut Compromise”) was reached.  The delegates proposed a bi-cameral Congress with representation in the House of Representatives allocated according to population and representation in the Senate equal among the states.  Arguably, the “equal suffrage in the Senate” clause is the most important clause in the entire Constitution.  Of all the provisions in the document, it alone is shielded from amendment by Article V, which states:  “no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.”  Thus, as one commentator has already said, equal representation for small states in the Senate is an important feature, not a bug, of the Constitution.  Indeed, without this feature, there almost certaintly never would have been a Constitution to begin with. 

Comments
Mung
Why doesn’t he just advocate for creating more states?
It is legally possible, but does anyone want the country to be more Balkanized than it is now? We have to get past the polarizing nature of modern times, where one side believes that all progressive ideas are bad and the other believes that all conservative ideas are backwards thinking. Change is inevitable. We all have an obligation to participate in the discussions about how change will proceed and, in some cases, if it will proceed. This cannot happen when nobody listens to anyone who has a different idea.Ed George
January 8, 2019
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Why doesn't he just advocate for creating more states?Mung
January 8, 2019
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Ed George:"
Yet some (looks in a mirror) act like it is.
Yes, you sure do. :DET
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EG, cheap rhetorical shot. Kindly, consider its self-referential aspects i/l/o what you have clearly been enabling above. KFkairosfocus
January 8, 2019
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This is the 21st century. Everyone has access to the information. Ignorance is not a virtue.
Yet some (look in a mirror) act like it is. :)Ed George
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Secular progressivism has one overarching purpose and goal: to demonize and vilify anybody who believes in, follows or defends what are now derided as traditional moral values. For example:
Family — once a beautiful joint enterprise of people overcoming differences between the sexes to support each other and their children — came to symbolize weakness, not joy. For far too many feminists, marriage is a patriarchal ploy, and love itself is manipulative. Kate Millett, author of the 1970 feminist classic Sexual Politics, wrote: “The concept of romantic love affords a means of emotional manipulation which the male is free to exploit. . . . Romantic love also obscures the realities of female status and the burden of economic dependency.” The birth-control pill, which permanently broke the link between sex and children, has irreparably changed our mores, too. Prior to the Pill, casual sex could not be quite so casual because sex usually meant the possibility of children. Men and women knew this and acted accordingly. Without any link between sex and having children, marriage’s ability to keep spouses together to nurture any resulting children became weaker. Childless sex and a casual approach to sex and relationships do more than fuel the #MeToo movement. They make it more difficult for women and men, especially those who do not engage in casual sex, to form families. They are the ones who have higher demands in relationships. Those who see one path to family through lifelong marriage are in a minority and will find it harder to compete in the relationship market.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/settle-down-lean-in-unhelpful-advice-to-young-women/ Of course, abortion exists because birth control is not 100% reliable. And, the truth is the push to legalize “same sex marriage” was never motivated by the belief that marriage is something good, rather it was seen by activists as nothing more than a cynical tactic to further undermine society’s moral foundations. Foundations that secular progressives see as obsolete and oppressive. Tragically people on my side of the issue have been either asleep or spineless when trying to counter the leftist agenda.john_a_designer
January 7, 2019
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KF alludes to ancient wisdom from the Talmud:
Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.
Jerusalem Talmud, Sanhedrin 4:1 (22a) Ed gives us made-up-five-minutes-ago pop psychology:
we have to make sure that people, especially kids, are provided with accurate and non-preachy information.
Barry Arrington
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Ed George- This is the 21st century. Everyone has access to the information. Ignorance is not a virtue.ET
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EG, you have tilted at a strawman caricature. Notice, in this very thread, there have been educational points raised on the suppressed issues and on the corrosive implications and connexions that lead to civilisation-damaging results. FYI, for 100 years after the abolition of the slave trade the Royal Navy maintained an anti-slavery patrol off W Africa. FYFI, there are entire social systems that routinely educate and train people from childhood in responsible civility that steer them away from rape, murder, pillage etc. In short, no-one imagines that words on paper are self-enforcing, or that direct policing is enough. Our civilisation has made a grave blunder that enables holocaust under false colour of law rising at about a million more victims per year, cumulatively 800+ millions over 40+ years . . . and those numbers come from Guttmacher and the UN, with a conservative growth model. I have seen estimates that show the cumulative toll is nearly double that, but I can back the estimate with a known conservative calculation. These issues and the raw visual "who broke the baby" and even the "here is the baby in the womb" facts are routinely suppressed and marginalised for a reason. All of these connect to undermining of truth, right reason, justice and more, including undermining the understanding of the sacredness and worth of human life itself. Once robbed of life, one has no further ability to enjoy one's rights, to rob me of life is to rob me of everything else, a whole world is snuffed out. KFkairosfocus
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Eugen, great point, and great video. That is what I have been trying to say. Information is power. If we want to make a difference in the abortion issue we have to make sure that people, especially kids, are provided with accurate and non-preachy information. Have faith in them that they will make the right decisions.Ed George
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With proper information people can form good opinions https://youtu.be/0xWQHhqOAcgEugen
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EG, the comparisons are not absurd as the law is itself a teacher. Where, the law patently should not dehumanise the weak, vulnerable and voiceless then subject them to taking their lives at will. KF
I certainly agree with the last part of this comment. Which is why I said that I was in favour of restricting abortion access to very specific and rare situations (rape, incest and when the woman’s life is at risk). But I have to disagree with you about BA’s comparison of this to laws against rape and murder. If the laws and the punishments associated with them were all that was needed to prevent these crimes, there would be no murders in states that have and use the death penalty. Yet murder rates in states with the death penalty are, if anything, slightly higher than those without it. But, his comparison to rape is probably more appropriate. Rape has been illegal for as long as I have been alive. Why is that? Because we are taught from an early age that the strong don’t take advantage of the weak. My parents, and I am sure yours as well, would get very angry with us if we had hit a girl. But even with that, the prosecution of rape is often problematic due to the stigma often linked to the victim for “allowing herself” to be placed in that situation (blame the victim). Slowly, this is changing. However, there was a category of rape that was perfectly legal in some states until 1993. Up until that year a man was perfectly within his rights in some states to have forced sex with his wife. We have made advances in this by extending rape laws to married couples and by educating people that marriage doesn’t mean subjugation of the woman to the man. In short, success takes more than just law. It also takes education. Abortion is the same. Changing the law alone will not succeed. We must also have strategies to 1) significantly reduce unwanted pregnancies and 2) significantly lessen the hardships for women who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy. I hope that this has clarified my position. For some reason, probably due to me poorly presenting my opinions, I think that you and BA have misunderstood what I have been trying to say. I suspect that we agree more than we disagree on this issue.Ed George
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Ed:
No, it is based on our best estimates of abortion rates prior to Roe.
You really must thing we are stupid. The abortion industry's "estimate" of rates before Roe is pulled from their ass. You have no way to back your numbers up. Ed @ 45:
Yes, you could make abortions illegal again . . . I’m sure that nobody is advocating for this
Ed @ 58
And I guess you also forgot that I said that I was in favour of making abortion illegal,
You are damned liar. No one should be surprised. You are OK with the destruction of human life on a mass scale. Lying is several steps down the moral ladder from that.Barry Arrington
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EG, the comparisons are not absurd as the law is itself a teacher. Where, the law patently should not dehumanise the weak, vulnerable and voiceless then subject them to taking their lives at will. KFkairosfocus
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BA
First, your logic is flawed. Making abortion illegal will most certainly reduce the number of abortions.
I guess you also missed the part where I said there would be an initial drop in abortions until the underground network was established.
Your assertion to the contrary is just that, a mere assertion based on abortion industry talking points.
No, it is based on our best estimates of abortion rates prior to Roe.
The bottom line is that Ed is OK with destroying innocent human life.
And I guess you also forgot that I said that I was in favour of making abortion illegal, except under very limited circumstances (eg, rape, incest and the danger of death to the mother). Legal restrictions would be one of the pillars of my approach, along with education, access to birth control and support for women who have unplanned pregnancies. With regard to your absurd comparisons to rape and murder, Are you seriously suggesting that it is these laws and punishment alone that act as a deterrence. to rape and murder? I would suggest that educating children as to why they are wrong and making tools available for self defense are equally important.Ed George
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Sev and EG, the issue is: dehumanisation and imposition of will to power over the weak and voiceless, to the extent of taking their lives at will under false colour of law. This is so corrosive to sound governance and the good of the community that it is only sustained through systematic manipulation of perceptions and suppression of the truth. The question, then, is how much damage will it wreak before we realise what is happening and wake up from our collective stupor in the cave of shadow-shows. We are playing with social system collapse, with nukes potentially on the loose. That is how ill-advised our civilisation is, and the sort of unravelling of the delicate fabric of sound governance we see in the OP is a sign that things do not look good. KF PS: Things already had to be pretty far gone by 1972/3 for the Judges to feel they could legislate from the bench and to feel social permission to impose such an especially ruinous policy. There is a reason why framers of modern states pulled well back from the sort of oligarchic and autocratic law making power that came down from Rome, making law makers accountable to the voting public and making judges distinct from law-makers. The best answer ties that to trends from the 1920's or even earlier and with sharp acceleration across the 1960's.kairosfocus
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Ed George: "[Making abortions illegal"] will not even reduce the number of abortions" Let's go with that logic Ed: [Making murders illegal] will not even reduce the number of murders [Making rapes illegal] will not even reduce the number of rapes [Making robberies illegal] will not even reduce the number of robberies [Making kidnapping illegal] will not even reduce the number of kidnappings . . . Blah blah blah First, your logic is flawed. Making abortion illegal will most certainly reduce the number of abortions. Your assertion to the contrary is just that, a mere assertion based on abortion industry talking points. Second, your logic could be used to keep literally anything legal, no matter how heinous. Do you want to legalize rape? Just assert "Keeping rape illegal does nothing to reduce rape; it just drives rape underground." Well, certainly it drives rape underground; but the assertion that subjecting an activity to severe penalties will have absolutely no affect on its incidence is idiotic, and assumes one's listeners are stupid. Third, it just doesn't matter, because even if it were true that making abortion illegal would not reduce the number of abortions (as idiotic as that assertion is), we should still make abortion illegal for the same reason that even if it were true that keeping murder illegal would not reduce the number of murders, we should still keep murder illegal. The bottom line is that Ed is OK with destroying innocent human life.Barry Arrington
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If you really want to end abortions except in the case of medical emergencies then simply making them illegal will not work based on past experience. It will simply drive them underground again with all the known consequences. Reducing them to a bare minimum will take three-pronged approach. First, there should be free and unfettered access to all safe methods of birth control and freely available education in how to use them effectively. Second, in my view, the proper objection to abortion should be based on asserting the right to life of a human individual as applying from the earliest stage at which it is detectable. Ultimately, abortion will end when everyone concerned recognizes that a blastocyst, embryo, fetus, whatever is just as human when it comes to deserving the right to life as a fully-developed adult. Third, in the case of pregnancy, there are two sets of rights to be considered and respected, those of the child and those of the mother. Traditionally, it is the rights of women as human beings that have been denied or disrespected. Many of the women driven to seek back-street abortions in the past did so out of a real fear of being shamed, shunned and de-privileged by their - often religious - societies. And is there any doubt that such attitudes still prevail in the more conservative and religious sectors of society? Changing those attitudes will make a significant contribution to reducing the demand for abortions. If that's what you really want.Seversky
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Ed George:
Your obsession …
Again with the total lack of self-awareness. But thanks for admitting that you are a sock puppet's sock.ET
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KF@51, but pragmatism is not the sole purvey of relativism. Prohibition was an attempt to avoid the negative impacts on people and society of drinking. But it didn’t work. Instead, a pragmatic approach was used. The legalization and regulation of alcohol was in no way a case of government condoning it. Many governments crossed that line when they started selling it themselves. As with you and Barry, I dream of the day when there are no abortions. But simply making it illegal alone is a failed strategy. All it does is drive it underground, where it was before the Supreme Court decision. But legal restrictions in addition to other strategies can make a big difference, as we have seen in many jurisdictions. I would be interested to know how you would go about getting the abortion rate down to zero. At this point I am not looking for a detailed plan, just the top four or five pillars in your plan. I think it would make for an interesting discussion. ET
And Ed, I don’t care that you are acartia bogart/ William spearshake. It is just bad form to be here pretending to be an ID supporter.
Your obsession with this guy cannot be healthy.Ed George
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And Ed, I don't care that you are acartia bogart/ William spearshake. It is just bad form to be here pretending to be an ID supporter. "Oh look at me! I am pretending to be one of them! And because of that they aren't banning me for using the same arguments I did as an overt evo a-mat!!1!! I have exposed their double-standards!!!11!!!1!!1 And I am now an atbc swamp hero!11!!!!1!" I can't wait for you to come out and post your victory speechET
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EG, pragmatism is exactly a case in point of relativism and its grave logical, epistemological and ethical defects. Many things "work" precisely because they express or enable dominant evils. Likewise, in logic of science, On theory T, observations O follow, so we infer T is so or effectively so is in fact utterly fallacious by way of affirming the consequent. To then dilute truth from that which says of what is that it is and of what is not that it is not, to "it works (for me/us)" corrupts a key concept. Yes, in science we address weak form fallible knowledge on inference to best current explanation, but that is to get something tested and reliable enough to risk much on it, it is provisional. Further, when we come to dehumanising the weak and voiceless members of our race then abusing power to do what we will with them up to killing them at will, that principle works for the powerful but is utter raw nihilism. That is why millions are turning their eyes away from the cumulative holocaust of 800+ millions and growing at another million per week. I repeat, the acceptable rate of victims for a holocaust is exactly zero victims per week. That is the sound principle, educational basis on which a good answer will eventually be found. KFkairosfocus
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Ed, stop it. You use the SAME words and arguments as those aforementioned sock puppets.ET
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OK, now there isn’t any doubt at all that Ed George is in fact William spearshake/ acartia bogart. The above comment is the EXACT SAME as what those other sock puppets have posted here @ UD.
I hope you realize that a large percentage (possibly a majority) of the western world believe that educatiion, access to birth control and support for women who become pregnant are successful strategies to combat the abortion problem. And many of these people are theists. Are all of these people the socks you refer to?
Every woman getting an abortion should be sterilized. The same for the guy who did it. And there should be fines or jail time. And if abortions become illegal and women go into those back allies then that too is their decision.
Interesting approach, although a little on the heartless and draconian side. I would be interested to hear if BA and KF agree with you. And, just for the record, I never provided my opinion on the legal access to abortion. For what it is worth, I think they should be available under very restrictive circumstances. Things like rape, incest and when the woman’s life is at risk.Ed George
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EG & H: As a note, we live in an age where evolutionary materialistic scientism (aka naturalism) holds disproportionate and ill founded ideological and message dominance. We were all influenced by it in school , in the media, in books we read and on the streets. The issue is not just strict materialism but enabling fellow-travellers. That then bleeds over into how issues such as truth, IS vs OUGHT, linked views and policies are argued. One key tell is conformity to the dominant but indefensible, e.g. relativism or subjectivism and whatever fashionable cultural marxist push-points are currently on the agenda. To address all of these we need to understand truth, logic, warrant, self-evident first or yardstick principles and the point that there are indeed moral truths: truths that accurately identify what ought to be and what ought not to be as opposed to what we morally governed creatures may or may not do and say. I should add that scientism is indefensible starting with that the claim that science rightly delimits, defines or dominates serious knowledge is an epistemological and/or ethical, thus philosophical claim. It refutes itself. Similarly, it is easy to show that evolutionary materialism is self-referentially incoherent as it entails that mind reduces to blind computation on a material substrate driven by mechanical necessity and chance, undermining rational inference. Of course adherents and fellow travellers usually get away with it because they project the problems to those they oppose, while not taking seriously the self-referentiality involved. So, we really do need to go back to logic and first principles if we are ever to get things straightened out without having our civilisation go over a cliff and break its back -- as happened with classical civilisation. KFkairosfocus
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And I, for one, do not care what Ed says he is or is not. His posts say it all.ET
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OK, now there isn't any doubt at all that Ed George is in fact William spearshake/ acartia bogart. The above comment is the EXACT SAME as what those other sock puppets have posted here @ UD. Look, this is the 21st century. If men an women are too stupid to understand what happens when they have unprotected sex then that is their own ignorance. And yes they should have to pay dearly for it. Every woman getting an abortion should be sterilized. The same for the guy who did it. And there should be fines or jail time. And if abortions become illegal and women go into those back allies then that too is their decision.ET
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KF, BA and Hazel just above. Hazel is correct. I am not a materialist or an atheist. But I am a realist and a pragmatist. My problem with KF’s solution to abortion is that not only can it not succeed, but it will not even reduce the number of abortions. The main reason for this is that all he has done is rail against the evil holocaust of abortion without providing any real solutions. Yes, you could make abortions illegal again and that will cause a dip in the abortion rate, for a short time. Within a few years the underground network of back-alley abortionists will become re-established. KF’s goal will not be achieved unless you incarcerate every woman who gets pregnant. I’m sure that nobody is advocating for this. The way to make a real difference is to reduce the demand for abortion. This is done through education, access to contraception and real, concrete support for pregnant women. If anyone thinks this makes me an evil person, tell that to the hundreds of thousands of babies that have not been aborted in jurisdictions that have adopted these (and additional) approaches.Ed George
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Hazel
I believe that Ed has said that he is not a materialist nor an atheist.
And yet he hews to the materialist line every chance he gets. False flag.Barry Arrington
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I believe that Ed has said that he is not a materialist nor an atheist. (I think that's correct.) Rejoinders that rail at materialism aren't exactly on point in replying to Ed, perhaps.hazel
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