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A colleague of mine posted this on list to which I subscribe. It raises some interesting questions about the limits of adaptability, the limits to preadaptation/exaptation, and the extent to which selection presupposes adaptability. I’m not sure I buy the entire argument here (see the post on this blog about the evolution of nylonase), but I would like to see the insights below vigorously discussed on this blog.

Are organisms simply more adaptable than can ever be explained on a purely evolutionary basis?

For example, we’ve all heard of the experiments where human subjects wear goggles that flip their visual experience upside down. After some period of time the brain/mind/soul flips things upright. Since never in evolutionary history could anything of that sort ever occurred on a sufficiently regular or long-term basis to give rise to that ability, that ability alone shows that Darwinian evolution is a false (incomplete) theory. The same could apply to birds’ abilities (assuming they exist) to “flip” their directional senses within (say) a single generation.

Speaking of which: I think the list has underappreciated (if I may sound a bit peevish a point I’ve made several times, namely, that any ability that an organism has to adapt to a highly, highly artificial constraint is a de facto disproof of the (complete adequacy of) neo-Darwinism. If an organism can adapt readily to an artificially induced change that has no analog in nature, than that adaptability cannot be explained (or explained away, or hand-waved-over) by random variation and natural selection. By hypothesis there is no place in natural history where such a capability could have arisen “naturally” (in the Darwinian sense).

It seems to me that such abilities are relatively commonplace. I.e., that there are many examples of adaptability under experimentation (artifice) that “just happen to work” and are absolutely inexplicable on Darwinian terms. They show the ability of organisms to transcend their own history, to so speak, and thus their irreducible to history/Darwinism.

For example, consider how SCNT (somatic cell nuclear transfer) works. You take a mammalian egg (which “just happens to be” a HUGE cell, very easy to experiment on). You take out the nucleus. (Think about how INCREDIBLY ARTIFICIAL that is.) You take an ENTIRE SOMATIC CELL (not just the nucleus — that’s one of the “tricks of the trade”) and you insert it into the enucleated egg cell. The “headless” (no nucleus, no genome, etc.) egg cell proceeds to break down/destroy the non-nucleic parts of the somatic cell. It then “gets ahold of” the somatic nucleus. It then proceeds to “reprogram” the nucleus to express the appropriate genes for embryonic life.

If all goes well (and often it doesn’t — in this case, nature fails to act “always or for the most part” in the famous phrase of Aristotle), a [fairly] normal embryo starts developing. But how can an enucleated egg possibly “know how to” do that? Such an occurrence has never happened in the entire history of life on earth. And yet it works — yes, only once in awhile, but it’s absolutely impossible that it could work AT ALL on Darwinian principles because the organism has never before encountered a circumstance in its natural history where this capability could have been selected for.

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Chris -- This paper contains research on many examples of cellular RNA that wound up in Retroviruses: http://intl.rnajournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/10/2/299 This book contains evidences that variable-region genes are transported to germ cells via RNA: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0738201715/104-5426795-6513569?v=glance&n=283155 If you search pubmed on the author's names you can find several of the papers they wrote. Unfortunately, my ILL loan period expired before I got to finish the book, and I haven't had a chance to get the papers yet, either. But the first paper mentioned above is a free download.johnnyb
May 17, 2006
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bFast, Thinking critically is just what I am trying to do, perhaps not successfully. I don't understand the point of your comments about sub-freezing temperatures, forest fires, and flooding. I understand why each of those conditions would cause some creatures to survive and not others. In particular, those creatures that are well-adapted for cold-weather will survive the low temperatures, those that can handle smoke will survive the forest fires, and those that can swim will survive the flood. I can understand how each of those circumstances would cause the survival trait to persist and eventually dominate in a population. What I don't understand is how surviving cold-weather leads to the spread of a general trait of surviving "whatever", in particular, surviving environmental circumstances the species has not yet experienced. Why does surviving the cold weather spread traits that not only help it survive cold weather, but survive forest fires and floods as well? Or are you saying that a particular animal suffered the cold weather, the forest fire, and the flood? Then it survives not because it is adapted to "whatever", but because it is particularly adapted to cold weather, forest fires and floods. But such adaptation says nothing about how the animal would survive in a desert or a tornado. To support the claim that animals survive that are adapted to "whatever", it needs to be shown that survival in a particular circumstance, or series of circumstances, leads to traits that allow it to survive in circumstances unrelated to that particular animal's experience. The animal that survives the flood but never experiences a forest fire somehow becomes adapted to survival in a forest fire... and cold temperatures, tornadoes, earthquakes, meteor strikes, and "whatever" else might conceivably happen. That is the step I question. Differential survival in a particular environment, or series of environments, spreads traits that promote survival in those environments, not a generalized tendency to survival (which I think is an empty concept anyway, evolutionarily speaking). Cheers, Dave T.taciturnus
May 17, 2006
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"Retroviruses are able to pack up somatic DNA and transport it to germ cells." Oh I misread that, do you have a link to a paper on this, thanks.Chris Hyland
May 17, 2006
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"Chris – Epigenetics is not the only way for heritable somatic changes. Retroviruses are viewed by some as an implementation of Lamarckism. Retroviruses are able to pack up somatic DNA and transport it to germ cells. There is some evidence for this occurring in the variable regions of antibody genes, as well as other places. " I know, my point was that if these things are not part of 'Darwinism' then Darwinism isn't synonymous with the modern theory of evolution.Chris Hyland
May 17, 2006
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Well, I'd put it another way. I have yet to see any credible alternative to Intelligent Design--period! There's science and then there's pure wild speculation that can become science. In my opinion Darwin never made the cut.Rude
May 17, 2006
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I don't know if this is a good line of argumentation or not. However, what makes me think, at least at first blush, that there might be something to it is to look at PZ Meyer's reaction: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/05/its_called_development_mr_demb.php His fundamental point is this: "This is absurd. Basically what Dembski is arguing here is that if organisms are not absolutely rigid and inflexible in their development, incapable of responding to variation in their environment, then evolution is wrong. He ignores (or more likely, is completely unaware of) everything we've known about basic developmental biology for a century and a half—the concept of regulation seems likely to freak poor Bill Dembski out, and I fear the mention of the words evo-devo and eco-devo would cause his head to ka-splode" Meyers does not say ANYTHING about why or how Darwinian evolution could produce such mechanisms. All he says is that because developmental biology knows about it, it cannot be contradictory of Darwinism. Read it again, because it can be easily missed. In fact, what the argument is is that such developmental enhancements cannot be the _product_ of Darwinian evolution. PZ Meyer's ONLY DEFENSE in this case is to say that such things exist. But that is just the point! He is agreeing with Dembski that they exist. Somehow he thinks that their mere existance makes it evidence of Darwinism's ability to do such a thing. This is classical Darwinian thinking. Because structure X exists, and because we already know that Darwinian evolution is true, then structure X cannot ever be used as an argument against Darwinian evolution, because it was produced by it. So the best reaction PZ can come up with is not "let me tell you how Darwinism can produce such functions" but rather "these functions can obviously be produced by Darwinism because they exist". Chris -- Epigenetics is not the only way for heritable somatic changes. Retroviruses are viewed by some as an implementation of Lamarckism. Retroviruses are able to pack up somatic DNA and transport it to germ cells. There is some evidence for this occurring in the variable regions of antibody genes, as well as other places.johnnyb
May 17, 2006
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I have yet to see any credible alternative to Darwinian Fundamentalism aside from intelligent design.jaredl
May 17, 2006
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Nobody says it better, Rude... you said with great clarity what I was trying to say before. It is so beautiful the way looking at the evolution of language, the human form of "word", can yield such insight! Interestingly, the color range blue-violet is associated with the pineal and crown chakras, which are said to be associated with wisdom and insight from higher spheres, whereas the color red is associated with the ground or root chakra, associated with the physical body and its connection to earth.tinabrewer
May 17, 2006
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From the peanut gallery again: In our civilization's past animate life was conceived as tripartite—spirit and soul and body [το πνευμα και η ψυχη και το σωμα] for example in 1Thess 5:23, with bone and flesh [עֶצֶם וּבָשָׂר] standing for body throughout the Torah as for example in Genesis 2:23. Everywhere spirit is associated with understanding and truth (i.e., information), and soul is associated with desire and agency. I have been surprised to find the same tripartite conception of the person among indigenous people. For example along the Columbia River there is even an association with color: waq'íšwit 'breath' is associated with words and the color blue, tmná 'heart' is associated with intention and the color red, and wáwnakwšaš 'body' is associated with the color yellow (or white)—"red, white and blue" was Stephen Meyer's quick response. If this is our natural intuition, then science should be open to at least the possibility of all three: information (spirit) be it Platonic or informatio ex nihilo, agency (soul) from whatever source, and mechanism (body). Why should EVERYTHING reduce to just one of these? A reductionism blind to a large portion of our intuition just might turn out to be a little too reductionist.Rude
May 17, 2006
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Dave T: "The difficulty is that organisms are never faced with “whatever.” They are always faced with a particular environment for which a particular set of biological features promote survival." You don't live the same life I live, I guess. I don't live in a single, generally static, environment. On a wicked day, the temperature outside is -60. (I live in the Canadian sub-arctic.) This makes little difference to me with my thermostatically controlled heat, but to the animals who live outside, it is survival time. Periodically the air is filled with smoke because of a forest fire. It makes little difference to me, but to the animals in the burning forest, it is survival time. Once in a while we have a hefty rain storm, and flooding. For the animals living outside, it is survival time. When a couple of feet of snow dump down, for the animals who live outside it is survival time. The environment is not static. The environment is not static by any means within the lifespan of individual animals. Animals with the best "come what may" survival mechanisms have a distinct selectable advantage. Read my posts, I am a true IDer, I just am unwilling to get too excited by the next hypothesis that comes along. We've got to think critically, or the other guys will do it for us.bFast
May 17, 2006
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"Lamarck was probably right all along about acquired characters being heritable." There are several methods of epigenetic inheritance, which technically is Lamarckian, that can result in evolution that does not involve changes in the genome sequence. "What’s to discuss? Systems which are preadapted to unforseen and unforseeable contingencies seem to discredit the blind watchmaker hypothesis, which seems to imply that any feature of a living system is, in essence, the minimal feature necessary to secure reproductive success over competitors." Most evolutionary biologists I know don't hold to adaptationism, which says that every feature of an organism must be an adaptation shaped by natural selection. Stephen Jay Gould called it 'Darwinian Fundamentalism'. "There are marine organisms that change the shape of their shells if they’re thrust into different water chemistries…New parameters to the physiological equation yield different results. The question is this: is it shocking that many of these results will be *viable* and functional results. There is a body of literature on a process called cannalization, which I think is relevant to this discussion." It appears that in many cases this 'deveopmental plasticity' arises from the properties of the developmental network. What is quite interesting is that if a species is forced to exhibit a new phenotype in response to some environmental condition, after a certain number of generations this then becomes the 'default' phenotype even if the condition is removed. So the RM comes after the NS.Chris Hyland
May 17, 2006
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bFast, You wrote: "Living organisms experience the unforseen all of the time, the ones best able to deal with “whatever” would survive the best." The difficulty is that organisms are never faced with "whatever." They are always faced with a particular environment for which a particular set of biological features promote survival. NDE selects for those features, not a set of features that promotes survival in a general sense, or that might provide survivability in some novel environmental circumstance not yet experienced. In any case, to explain the origin of a species in terms of its ability to survive "whatever" is really to give up on a Darwinian explanation altogether. The driving force of NDE is differential survival and its effect on the structure and development of life. Changing environments across space and time are supposed to account for the enormous variety and peculiarity of life as we find it, because different organisms have varying rates of survival in different environments. If now we explain a species, not in terms of the particular environmental history it has experienced, but in terms of its ability to survive "whatever", then its evolutionary history is irrelevant and the explanation is not Darwinian. In fact, such an explanation would have to be teleological. Cheers, Dave T.taciturnus
May 17, 2006
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It boils down to the main mechanism of neo-Darwinism: wishful thinking.geoffrobinson
May 17, 2006
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jaredl: forget that snippet! Pushed the wrong button. more later.tinabrewer
May 17, 2006
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jaredl: while the body definitely functions in an apparently mechanistic way, there are cetinabrewer
May 17, 2006
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When I put my NDE hat on, I am totally unsurprised at the "flip glasses" phenomenon. In general, being able to deal with unforseen situations is very selectable, as far as I can see. Living organisms experience the unforseen all of the time, the ones best able to deal with "whatever" would survive the best. We know that neural networks are very operative in the brain. In AI we have been trying to replicate the technology for years. A feature of neural networks is that they learn from their experience. A neural net based vision system would be able to right a flipped image quite redily. The egg thing sounds much more challenging. I wonder, however, if there isn't a very simple explanation. We know that mammal sperm uses a flagellum to find the egg. Therefore mammal sperm has "baggage" hanging off of the nucleus. Could it be that the egg has proteins which are designed to strip the sperm down to its nucleus? If so, could this protein act as a general organic material stripper with the sense only of the nucleus wall, where it ceases to act? If this were so, and such would be a simple solution to ridding the sperm of its flagellum, then the above description is no longer that surprising. While I am always into a good challenge for NDE, I am not so sure that this is the one.bFast
May 17, 2006
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One of the big "whys" I at which I always thought evolution failed miserably in trying to address was "was why is their biodiversity in the same habitat?" One would think that if fitness was the goal of natural selection everything that came from the first cell would have evolved to the same thing. Or considering bacteria exists everywhere, why bother evolving?tribune7
May 17, 2006
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thanks again Rude! The movement toward vitalism is alive and well, thank goodness. Sheldrake does make very interesting points. I think he extrapolates too far from what he is able to show experimentally, but his ideas definitely point to a non-material component of life which would end up endorsing a more Lamarckian type of evolutionary theory.tinabrewer
May 17, 2006
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The ability to adapt appears mechanistic in operation here - that's why I say that such adaptability does not provide evidence of a vitalistic component in the systems under consideration. We needn't appeal to some vitalistic force to explain immune responses to synthetic compounds, for example, and that's the class of systems we're looking at here.jaredl
May 17, 2006
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Oh boy! Hadn't read 3 above! It had said what I just said before I said it. Sorry.Rude
May 17, 2006
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TinaB - Perhaps "preadapted" was a bad word to use in this context. I mean that a system with an inherent ability to adapt to the contingencies mentioned (while not necessarily supplying evidence of a vitalistic component to the system in question) does supply evidence against the blind watchmaker hypothesis simply because it requires purposeful gullibility to believe that such a capacity was the minimal response required in the immediate environment to secure reproductive success.jaredl
May 17, 2006
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Just a wild idea here from the peanut gallery: If organisms do prove to be more adaptable than can be explained by the mechanism of the organism, then maybe it's time to reconsider the old vitalism. This, of course, is what Rupert Sheldrake is all about and, yes, we're probably wise to maintain a bit of distance what with the New Ageyness of that movement. But Sheldrake does make interesting reading which just might inspire some alert young mind out there in a remote corner of ID. One gets a hint here and there that life really doesn't bootstrap up entirely from the DNA within the cell but rather there must be some direction from outside.Rude
May 17, 2006
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It seems that adaptablility is something Darwinism could never explain even in principle. The engine that drives Darwinian evolution is differential survival. An organism, through RM or some other means, obtains an attribute that allows it a better chance of survival in its environment. It therefore leaves more offspring and, eventually, the new attribute spreads throughout the population. Implicit in the scenario is the assumption that competing organisms do not adapt to the crisis. They follow the script and exit stage left so the new, improved model can take over. Death and extinction are just as critical to the story as survival and reproduction, and to the extent that something adapts and survives to the new circumstances in a way other than RM+NS, it's not following a part authorized by the Darwinian playbill. The Kettleworth moths, for example, only show natural selection at work because the light colored moths don't adapt and instead allow themselves to be eaten when the soot darkens the trees (I know from "Icons of Evolution" that there are a lot of problems with the moth story. The point is, even taken at face value, the Darwinian case depends on the light moths not adapting to the new circumstances.) Adaptablility, defined as the power to change in the face of unforeseen circumstances in a way that enhances survival, is a quality that cannot be explained by Darwinian evolution because the core concept of differential survival requires non-adaptability. Cheers, Dave T.taciturnus
May 17, 2006
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This discussion reminds me of a heated argument in an undergrad class of mine. Upon hearing mention of a discovery linking a certain gene to predisposition for alcoholism, a young woman stands up and says this is all nonsense. "Human genes evolved during a time when there was no such thing as alcohol!!" Therefore there could be no such thing as a gene for alcoholism.
Teleological language can result in confusion. The fact is when you put a complex organism in a completely novel/artificial scenario you just don't know what is going to happen a priori given its genetic complement. Many times it fails or exhibits some nonoptimal response. Sometimes its current complement of genetics/physiology allows it to adapt. There are marine organisms that change the shape of their shells if they're thrust into different water chemistries...New parameters to the physiological equation yield different results. The question is this: is it shocking that many of these results will be *viable* and functional results. There is a body of literature on a process called cannalization, which I think is relevant to this discussion. Certain systems appear to be inherrently flexible. An example would be the layout of blood vessels in your body. We've all seen the pictures of tumors re-routing capillaries to feed them. Part of the reason they are able to do this is b/c of the built-in flexibility. One would expect a certain degree of robustness in many systems to be present in evolved organisms. As we all know, absolute rigidity is seldom a successful strategy. When is the flexibility observed so excessive that it's impossible to occur outside of design? Again, very hard to say, and it ultimately brings us back to the design inference biocomplexity question. But to claim that it, without additional analysis, such examples refute darwinian evolution seems premature.

I'm taking you off the moderation list. Your comments will henceforward appear immediately. Don't make me regret it. -ds great_ape
May 17, 2006
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I would say that the systems aren't "preadapted", but that a more organic way of viewing it is that life has an inherent quality of active adaptability. This inherent quality, in my view, stems from a substance or essence of living things which is non-material. In homeopathic medicine, for example, this governing intelligence is called "vital force". All of the tools of science are made up of matter, and are therefore at best able to measure the material effects of this non-material living substance. The problem comes in when it is assumed that EVERYTHING has its originating cause IN MATTER. Then, things (like design, rapid adaptability) which bear the clear earmarks of a living intelligence, must be ignored, repudiated, or reduced to matter.tinabrewer
May 17, 2006
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What's to discuss? Systems which are preadapted to unforseen and unforseeable contingencies seem to discredit the blind watchmaker hypothesis, which seems to imply that any feature of a living system is, in essence, the minimal feature necessary to secure reproductive success over competitors. That being the case, it is literally incredible that the minimal requirements for reproductive success just happens to be preadaptation to situations which only arise from modern human technological intervention.jaredl
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"For example, we’ve all heard of the experiments where human subjects wear goggles that flip their visual experience upside down. After some period of time the brain/mind/soul flips things upright. Since never in evolutionary history could anything of that sort ever occurred on a sufficiently regular or long-term basis to give rise to that ability, that ability alone shows that Darwinian evolution is a false (incomplete) theory."

That experiment just goes to show the flexibility of the brain, which is explicable in terms of Darwinian evolution. Adaptability itself is a trait that natural selection can favor.

There are more extreme examples of this in nature. Experiments have shown (see links below) that some species of bacteria actually increase their rates of mutation in times of hardship, which makes it more likely for colonies to adapt before they die off completely.

http://rhosgobel.blogspot.com/2005/05/antibiotic-resistance-in-bacteria.html
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/1160.html

They also exchange genes with other bacteria to spread the wealth, so to speak. Turning up the mutation rate of certain genes involved in toxin resistance in response to stress is something that was blogged about here a year ago. It's probably not rare or extreme. Anything a lowly e.coli can do shouldn't be an ability any more complex organisms have in their toolbox. Indeed, one should presume that more complex organisms have even more complex survival tools at their disposal. Lamarck was probably right all along about acquired characters being heritable. He certainly was for prokaryotes and anything a prokaryote can do I expect their ostensible descendents the eukaryotes can do even better. What's extreme is thinking we have more than a small inkling of what's really going on with evolution and the machinery of life. Clinging to the simple random mutation & natural selection dogma is naive and nothing more than a palliative to assure ourselves that we have a good understanding of what's happening and are just missing some details. It's also a security blanket for chance worshipping atheists that dominate certain echelons of the science establishment and we all know how hard it is to get a small child to give up her blanky. The whole premise that random mutation and natural selection are the drivers of creative evolution has become a lame duck. -ds wb4
May 16, 2006
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I keep bees and one of the amazing things that they do (among many !) is that one can introduce a new queen and, if the correct precautions are made, the hive will "adopt" her as their own. Why do they do this ?

This also reminds me of grafting trees together. How can one tree tolerate being grafted to another ?

I think the answer lies in robustness. Natural selection will act for organisms to be robust - especially to the environment (I mean, look at the tremendously diverse environmental conditions a 1000 year old tree must contend with - drought, fire, herbivory). This robustness may lead to the accomodation of weird, unnatural circumastances.

I mean, we do OK living in the suburbs. How weird and unnatural is that ?

As I recall honeybees are the only species besides humans that have a symbolic language. Workers that find a rich food source can return to the hive and symbolically communicate directions to other workers on how to navigate to it. bdelloid
May 16, 2006
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Dr. Dembski Sir, a speculative argument on my part... In reference to the enucleated cell portion of your article, is it possible for me to argue with you that it has never happened? No, not very well, but I say this, I think it happened on one occasion or something like it. At any rate, it is something for me to think about...carbon14atom
May 16, 2006
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I'm not too convinced about the vision flipping thing. The brain already flips what's coming in, since the retina sends it an upside-down image. Shouldn't our minds be able to just apply the flip again when things aren't coming out right-side up? It's suggested that babies see things upside down for the first few days, until their brains adjust to the need to flip things. If a baby's brain can make that adjustment, I suspect my brain could handle the task just as well.

If a baby's brain can make that adjustment, I suspect my brain could handle the task just as well. Don't flatter yourself. I'd put the odds at 50/50. -ds Tiax
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