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The Strongest Arguments Against Design

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In any debate, it is good strategy to acknowledge your opponent’s strongest points up front, effectively taking them off the table. Critics of Intelligent Design have two strong arguments, discussed below, and virtually nothing else. Direct evidence that natural selection or any other unintelligent cause can actually do intelligent things, like design plants or animals, is nonexistent.

  1. The first argument is this: in every other field of science, methodological naturalism has been spectacularly successful, why should evolutionary biology be different? Evolutionary biologists understandably don’t want to be the only scientists at scientific meetings appealing to the workings of an unseen intelligent agent to explain phenomena in their field of study. When we have an approach that has worked so well on so many other problems, we need some powerful justification to switch to another paradigm to attack the problem of evolution, and it is understandable that there is so much resistance to this.But it has long been obvious to the layman that evolution is different, and requires a fundamentally different type of explanation. In recent years, a significant number of scientists have begun to recognize this also. In “A Second Look at the Second Law” I have attempted to express what is obvious to the layman in more scientific terms. A version of this argument written for a more general audience is here. I believe that this argument is the “powerful justification” needed to consider a new methodology in evolutionary biology, and shows why methodological naturalism hasn’t worked, and won’t work.
  2. The second argument is this: there are many things about evolution—the long periods involved, the evidence for common descent, the many evolutionary dead ends, examples of imperfect design—that simply give a strong impression of natural causes. This argument, used repeatedly by Charles Darwin himself in Origin of Species, is basically “a Creator wouldn’t do things this way.” Perhaps a more accurate way of stating the
    argument is, “I wouldn’t have done things this way if I were the Creator.” But, in fact, it does look a lot like the way we humans create things now, though testing and improvements over time. In fact, the similarities actually go beyond that, as brought out in my Mathematical Intelligencer article A Mathematician’s View of Evolution and, more briefly, in this video.Many people feel silly attributing the development of each species directly to God, yet understand that a completely unintelligent process could not possibly have produced the magnificent species we see today. Darwin wrote, in a letter to Sir John Herschel, “One cannot look at this Universe with all living productions and man without believing that all have been intelligently designed; yet when I look to each individual organism, I can see no evidence of this.” This paradox has left many looking for a compromise, such as
    “theistic evolution.”

    At the end of the “Epilogue” of my Discovery Institute Press book In the Beginning… I attempted an explanation for why a Creator might indeed “do things this way.” But of course it is only speculation, and although I often find that explanation reasonable, sometimes it does not even seem convincing to me. Perhaps a more obvious explanation is, our Creator creates through testing and improvements (sometimes trying modifications that don’t work out so well) for the same reason we create this way: it is probably the only way any intelligent agent could create things. If the only other intelligent agents we have experience with cannot create perfect designs by snapping their fingers, why would we assume our Creator could do this?

    I believe the evidence for design in the origin and development of life is scientific and overwhelming. Speculation as to what the designer might be like, or might have been thinking (or should have been thinking, as Darwin often argued ) is of course theology, not science. But I also have a purely scientific resolution of this paradox that I find quite satisfactory. It is simply: “evolution may leave an impression that it is an entirely natural process, but it isn’t.”

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gpuccio, I know. I'm not saying I agree with the Darwinists I'm just saying those sorts of arguments are their best arguments because they actually attempt to address the design argument that functional complexity and novel functions can't arise by Darwinian means. Negoro et al (2005) on Nylonase:
6-Aminohexanoate-dimer hydrolase (EII), responsible for the degradation of nylon-6 industry by-products, and its analogous enzyme (EII´) that has only ~0.5% of the specific activity toward the 6-aminohexanoate-linear dimer, are encoded on plasmid pOAD2 of Arthrobacter sp. (formerly Flavobacterium sp.) KI72. EII´ has 88% homology to EII but has very low catalytic activity (1/200 of EII activity) toward the 6-aminohexanoate-linear dimer (Ald), suggesting that EII has evolved by gene duplication followed by base substitutions from its ancestral gene. We have found that of the 46 amino acid alterations that differed between the EII and EII´ proteins, two amino acid replacements in the EII´ protein (i.e. Gly to Asp (EII-type) at position 181 (G181D) and His to Asn (EII-type) at position 266 (H266N)) are sufficient to increase the Ald-hydrolytic activity back to the level of the parental EII enzyme. The other 44 amino acid alterations have no significant effect on the increase of the activity. [IMAGE] The activity of the EII´-type enzyme is enhanced ~10-fold by the G181D substitution and ~200-fold by the G181D/H266N double substitutions. Nylon oligomer hydrolase utilizes Ser112/Lys115/Tyr215 as common active sites, both for Ald-hydrolytic and esterolytic activity, but requires at least two additional amino acid residues (Asp181/Asn266), specific for Ald-hydrolytic activity. These results indicate that the G181D and H266N are amino acid alterations specific for the increase of nylon oligomer hydrolysis. Thus, the nylon oligomer-degrading enzyme (EII) is considered to have evolved from preexisting esterases with beta-lactamase folds.
On DNT:
Harvey then pointed to a paper about the alleged evolution of a complex biochemical pathway. The pathway allows bacteria to metabolize DNT (similar to TNT), which is a man-made compound. Obviously DNT doesn't exist naturally, so if bacteria can metabolize it, then obviously it had to have evolved very recently. Apparently some air-force scientists found a way to get DNT to be metabolized as part of a project to decompose this waste product using microorganisms. (This is similar to the project to use bugs to eat oil slicks. A little claim once made by a professor of mine once said that the oil-eating microorganisms have never been used in the real world because of fears that they might get into the world's oil supply, and eat it all.) In any case, Harvey tried to claim that this paper showed some important example of evolution. Minnich replied to Harvey "you don't understand my position." Minnich, who had previously read the paper, explained that to evolve this pathway required the modification of maybe 2 or 3 preexisting enzymes. There was really nothing new here, and certainly nothing approaching an irreducibly complex biomolecular machine. Minnich called this microevolution. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2005/11/minnich_vs_harvey_the_witness001301.html
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Yes and antibiotic resistance is also one of their best arguments. That is until you take a look: Is Bacterial Resistance to Antibiotics an Appropriate Example of Evolutionary Change?Joe
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Scootle: I am afraid you are not up to date. The emergence of nylonase through frameshift mutation, as suggested by Ono, is one of the greatest errors of darwinian science. As recognized by all, nylonase derives form penicillinases, throuhgh a very small mutational transitions in the plasmis system, not more relevant to our discussion than well known microevolutionary resistance to antibiotics. No significant complexity added. No trace of macroevolution. So, you should change your example. This is Wikipedia very prudent reporting of that: "This discovery led geneticist Susumu Ohno to speculate that the gene for one of the enzymes, 6-aminohexanoic acid hydrolase, had come about from the combination of a gene duplication event with a frame shift mutation.[2] Ohno suggested that many unique new genes have evolved this way. A 2007 paper that described a series of studies by a team led by Seiji Negoro of the University of Hyogo, Japan, suggested that in fact no frameshift mutation was involved in the evolution of the 6-aminohexanoic acid hydrolase.[3]" If you look at the literature, as I have done, you will see that there is no doubt that Ono was wrong. I wish you better luck next time.gpuccio
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And here begins MORE of DrREC's obfuscation, non-sequiturs and plain ignorant spewage. Design is natural "doc". Dr Spetner wrote about "built-in responses to environmental cues" some 14 years ago- your ignorance is not a refutation. And BTW, gravity is evidence for a designer- how does your position explain the 4 forces- gravity, weak nuclear force, strong nuclear force and electro-magnetism? I'll tell you how Hawking says your position "explains" them- "They just are (the way they are)"- IOW your whole position is just for the crapper...Joe
December 12, 2011
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I didn't say I agreed with it, I just said its their best arguments.Scootle
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"What is the evidence that Nylon and DNT degrading arose via random mutation?" And here begins the "you can't prove something apparently natural is actually natural" game. Always room for the designer. Intelligent falling anyone?DrREC
December 12, 2011
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Scootle, 1- What is the evidence that Nylon and DNT degrading arose via random mutation? 2- The argument was NOT about "new" information- your response is a non-sequiturJoe
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"Direct evidence that natural selection or any other unintelligent cause can actually do intelligent things, like design plants or animals, is nonexistent." Well the Darwinists would disagree there. They certainly believe there are examples of natural selection creating new information. The Nylon and DNT degrading enzymes are two examples that people like Ken Miller often cite. I think those are actually the strongest arguments against design.Scootle
December 12, 2011
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Grenville: My brief answers: 1. Methodological naturalism fails not only in the field of biological information, but also in other important fields, especially thoeries of consciousness. And acceptin ID theory in no way prevents a seriosu research for "naturalistic" (whatever it means) explanations. The point is: neo dariwnists have tried not to explain, and to affirm that their non explanation works. That is bad science. Naturalistic reserach must always go on: it is, indeed, the best source of evidence for ID, where ID is needed. 2. The problem of how a Creator would do things is not scientific. Darwinists are using a philosophical, indeed religious arguments here. That is not allowed in science. The evodence for common descent is evidence for common descent. Whether one accepts it or refutes it, it has nothing to do with ID prpoper. Is that all they have?gpuccio
December 12, 2011
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Sed the unoriginal repetitious bore... :razz: Any more weak arguments?Joe
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Joe, I heartily aqree. You are repetitious and boring.allanius
December 12, 2011
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Yup, the "strongest" arguments against ID are the weakest arguments that can be raised. Talk about repetitious and boring... :razz:Joe
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Well if we're talking specifics, for me personally chromosomal fusion (chromosome 2) has been one of the better arguments raised, certainly compared to a vast majority of others.Stu7
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